I am not sure what that has to do with a box of wine.
However at this time of the year, I bring cocoa and schnapps on my weekend backpacks.. Yummy!
Did you know butterscotch schnapps fits very well into a 20 oz gatorade bottle?
Mmmmmmm....
Finally, I don't know if I am funny..but many people say I am funny looking....but also know the right things to pack at the right time... Like Irish Cream liqueur on St. Pattie's Day!
Originally Posted by taildragger
I think it does once you get past the Attachment 5008contest
Is that like an ISO9001 approved certification?
Last edited by Mags; 10-21-2008 at 20:07.
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It varied. I never figured the base weight. With two liters of water and three days of food my summer weight was around 20. I carried a number of things that added packweight: camera, PocketMail, cell phone, full guidebook, at least one novel, a deck of cards, etc. Probably close to a quarter of my packweight was that sort of stuff.
As time went on, I added a few more things without discarding what I already had. One biggie was adding a Therm-A-Rest, so I was carrying two sleeping pads.
On Nov. 1, I went to a winter setup, with a much warmer, and heavier, sleeping bag, an extra layer of clothing, a couple more light sources, more high-calorie food, more stove fuel, and more reading material. I switched to a stouter pack (Gregory G) to carry all that stuff. At that point, the fully-loaded pack was around 30-32.
One thing I decided the year before my thru-hike was that I personally was not aiming for an incredibly fast hike, which meant I would not normally be hiking more than 8 hours out of 24. I'd be sleeping about 8 hours, and then I'd have another 8 hours for doing whatever. For me, that usually involves brewing and drinking tea, eating, journaling, reading, and playing cards.
Could I go lighter? Hell, yeah. Do I want to? Not unless there's a good reason. A 20-pound pack is 11% of my current body weight. A 30-pound pack is 16%. I prefer the 20-pound pack, but I'll go with 30 rather than being either hungry or cold. Or bored.
One further thought: I could, and should, lose about 30 pounds of weight off my body. Losing that weight would be the biggest boost to my hiking speed, comfort, and general ability.
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If not NOW, then WHEN?
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Jack (and others who believe 3000 is too small,)
In all fairness to Slow, you too are not qualified to give advice on the subject of ULW backpacking. Unlike Slow, you have thru-hiked the AT but you don’t travel ULW. I don’t believe you ever have in all your years as a hiker. I’m not saying that as a bad thing or it is something you could not do if you put your mind to it but it is simple not your style of backpacking.
Slow may not have thru-hiked the AT with less 3000 cu/in but I have - multiple times and with far less. Many others have done the same thing, Grandma Gatewood, Earl Shaffer Mags to name a few..
The original question was “What volume range of ultralight pack is normal for a thru-hike? Also, what do you think the top five ultralight packs would be for a thru-hike?”
You are given advises as an experience thru-hiker who chooses to carry a lot of weight. A ULW backpacker and someone who travel heavy are going to look at this question differently.
Some of what Slow is putting out is wrong. A 3000 cu/in is more than enough room for more than 4 days of food. At times as Mags said, sometimes it is worth carrying the extra 2 pounds of food to avoid going off the trail to resupply. Out West, it is very possible to hike with less than 3000 cu/in. I carried about the same weight doing the PCT as when I did the AT.
Just my $0.02
Wolf
(throughout this thread)--It is precisely this tone of banter that made me eventually dislike trailplace. I eventually drifted over to WB, because it was free of this stuff. I hope we can put the egos aside. Or I'd bet this will eventually, if continued, make many drift from WB--IMO.
sincerely,
GlazeDog
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AS a general rule the lighter the pack the less weight it has been designed to carry. My experience has been that when you go beyond a pack's intended weight it becomes uncomfortable to carry not to mention stressing the straps. How in the world do ultralighters carry 5-6 days food between resupply points or enough for the 100 mile Maine wilderness in frameless packs or packs weighing less than 2 lbs? I have never understood this.
It can be done with proper food selection (low to no water weight, calorie intense, addition of olive oil) and switching from wine to liquor
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