Fuel Gel, Diethylene Glycol - Your thoughts?

[zelph]

Old thread but a new way to use the liquid chafing fuel used by the food service industry. The stove is of the same basic design of the Fancee Feest but modified to burn the viscous diethylene glycol (chafing fuel) The fuel is classified as combustible, don't confuse with flammable (different flash points).

It's toxic just as other fuels are so we don't want to eat/drink it

Did 3 boil tests 2 cups of water in approx. 11 min. using a Toaks Light 550ml pot. Not too shabby Starting water temp was 70 degrees. Calm air conditions in my garage.

[atraildreamer]

[QUOTE=zelph;2091000]Old thread but a new way to use the liquid chafing fuel used by the food service industry. The stove is of the same basic design of the Fancee Feest but modified to burn the viscous diethylene glycol (chafing fuel) The fuel is classified as combustible, don't confuse with flammable (different flash points).

It's toxic just as other fuels are so we don't want to eat/drink it

Did 3 boil tests 2 cups of water in approx. 11 min. using a Toaks Light 550ml pot. Not too shabby Starting water temp was 70 degrees. Calm air conditions in my garage.



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I contacted one of the manufacturers of the chafing dish stuff when I was doing my stove efficiency article and they said that it was gelled methanol. They would not tell me the BTU content of the product, saying it was "proprietary information".

[zelph]

Testing my memory hmmmmm guestimate under 1,000 btu's per ????? I'll have to go look it up(DEG) on the net again.

This is what I use, I call it Fancee Heet :

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[zelph]

Diethylene Glycol

Specific Heat @ 25°C (77°F) Btu/lb/°F

http://www.dow.com/ethyleneglycol/about/properties.htm



More info:

http://www.meglobal.biz/media/produc...Global_DEG.pdf

[levibarry]

Here is a fuel that John Abela did a write up on. It's on facebook from Aug. 18th. Along the same line
it's called Fondue Fuel - Swiss Fire Gel Bottle

You can buy it from Amazon.

Just an FYI
levibarry

[zelph]

Here is a fuel that John Abela did a write up on. It's on facebook from Aug. 18th. Along the same line
it's called Fondue Fuel - Swiss Fire Gel Bottle

You can buy it from Amazon.

Just an FYI
levibarry

Did Abela show a pot support for it. Googled and found these little containers of gel if you are interested in gelled alcohol:

http://www.swissmar.com/usa/gourmet/search/gmtdetail.php?id=1900

[levibarry]

This is additional information from his facebook page about this Gel.
Taking a look at the Swissmar 'Swiss Fire Gel' - an extremely safe fuel for hikers! Original credit for using this in stoves goes to Jon from Flat Cat Gear, ...
YOUTUBE.COM


Levibarry

[levibarry]

This the link from John's page:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5W3a-tpuI0

Sounds interesting.

levibarry

[zelph]

This the link from John's page:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5W3a-tpuI0

Sounds interesting.

levibarry

Interesting stuff. Not allowed for air travel though or use by Boy Scouts of America.

[zelph]

Experiencing difficulties lighting after stove with remaining fuel have sat on table for week while humidity has been high. I suspect wick has absorbed moisture from the air and water in the fuel has been filtered out and remains in the wick.........bummer. Here is what I found on water being used to create the fuel:

Ethylene glycol is produced from ethylene (ethene), via the intermediate ethylene oxide. Ethylene oxide reacts with water to produce ethylene glycol according to the chemical equation:
C₂H₄ + 2H₂O → HO–CH₂CH₂–OH