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    My doctor, also a hiker, told me to take the Ibuprofen at the beginning of the hike, don't wait for the pain to set in. She's right. Works very very well. I can pop one (or two if it's more than 10 miles) and have no pain.
    "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."

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    Don't take tylenol while you're drinking alcohol.
    Well, that eliminates that for most hikers.

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    ketoprofin, could be found as "Orudis KT" for awhile, but I haven't seen it sold anywhere for maybe a year or so, I don't know why and can't find any more information.

    Stuff was awesome, better than vit-I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooch View Post
    This is also very ill advised. Percocet isn't indicated for mild aches, but rather for moderate-severe pain. Even taken at their prescribed doses, narcotic pain medication such as Percocet can impair judgement and motor skills. In taking narcotic pain meds (opioid agonists), there are many variables to take into account. Things like body weight, metabolism, and tolerance among them. Also, bear in mind that Percocet, along with other narcotic pain medications are habit forming and potentially addictive. So, taking this routinely for minor aches when something less potent, such as an NSAID, would be sufficient is nothing short of a bad idea.
    Not sure if Endocet is exactly the same as Percocet, but I have had very, very good results with 325 mg dosage - doubled my hiking distance on moderate foot pain/ankle pain.

    It doesn't feel habit forming to me in the sense that unless I'm hiking and have foot pain, I have no desire to take it.

    How difficult is it to get a prescription for Endocet (I'm running out of the supply I got from a dentist after oral surgery)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckwheat View Post
    Not sure if Endocet is exactly the same as Percocet, but I have had very, very good results with 325 mg dosage - doubled my hiking distance on moderate foot pain/ankle pain.

    It doesn't feel habit forming to me in the sense that unless I'm hiking and have foot pain, I have no desire to take it.

    How difficult is it to get a prescription for Endocet (I'm running out of the supply I got from a dentist after oral surgery)?
    Endocet, like Percocet, is a combination drug of oxycodone and acetaminophen (generic Tylenol). Access to Endocet, like all other narcotic pain medications, is highly controlled and closely monitored. That said, no responsible physician or other healthcare provider is going to prescribe it "just because" you want it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooch View Post
    Endocet, like Percocet, is a combination drug of oxycodone and acetaminophen (generic Tylenol). Access to Endocet, like all other narcotic pain medications, is highly controlled and closely monitored. That said, no responsible physician or other healthcare provider is going to prescribe it "just because" you want it.
    Would they prescribe it if I said that I have pain when I hike that Endocet works reasonably well to control; and that I report no side effects when using it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckwheat View Post
    Would they prescribe it if I said that I have pain when I hike that Endocet works reasonably well to control; and that I report no side effects when using it?
    That's between you and your MD/DO/PA/NP. Again, I believe this to be a bad idea.

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    I like Aleve for just about all my pains. I carry Aspirin for headache, but usually the Aleve takes care of them so, , , ,
    Curse you Perry the Platypus!

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    3 lines of meth, a flask of Jack and I'm down the trail @ 4 1/2mph. ....what pain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcranky View Post
    I use naproxin sodium on the advice of my doc and trainer. One tablet with breakfast and one with dinner. Easier to remember and fewer pills to carry and count.
    This is what I do also, although I usually take two pills (one doesn't seem to do anything) and will sometimes take 3-4 for a few days to counter a more serious muscle pull or sprain. The physicians I've spoken to about this are in complete agreement, as long as you aren't taking NSAIDS for weeks at a time.
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    Two of the worst nights of my life were the two times I took Naproxen (aleve). My stomach was so painful that I almost went to the emergency room.

    Unfortunately, I didn't associate the pain with the drug the first time but took it to be overeating instead.

    There will be no more times for me to take this drug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckwheat View Post
    Would they prescribe it if I said that I have pain when I hike that Endocet works reasonably well to control; and that I report no side effects when using it?
    If not, visit Canada and get Tylenol 222's. These are 8mg Codeine pills with 325mg Tylenol and 15mg caffeine. These can be bought over the counter, but you have to ask for them at the pharmacy, and declare them at the border when you come back. (I think the limit is 2 500 count bottles)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr O View Post
    If not, visit Canada and get Tylenol 222's. These are 8mg Codeine pills with 325mg Tylenol and 15mg caffeine. These can be bought over the counter, but you have to ask for them at the pharmacy, and declare them at the border when you come back. (I think the limit is 2 500 count bottles)
    Yeah, that's good advice.

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    listen to what hooch is saying, he's dead on, also don't forget what we all learned in high school pe...strech out and warm up first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr O View Post
    If not, visit Canada and get Tylenol 222's. These are 8mg Codeine pills with 325mg Tylenol and 15mg caffeine. These can be bought over the counter, but you have to ask for them at the pharmacy, and declare them at the border when you come back. (I think the limit is 2 500 count bottles)
    Thanks. Very useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooch View Post
    Yeah, that's good advice.

    It's great advice. It also demonstrates how the pharmaceutical industry has a stranglehold over health care in America.

    10mg of painkiller mixed with 325 miligrams of Tylenol shouldn't even be a prescription medication in the United States.

    No scientific study ever done concluded that Endocet is habit-forming when used to deal with occasional pain caused by physical exertion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckwheat View Post
    It's great advice.
    No, it's not.

    Quote Originally Posted by buckwheat View Post
    10mg of painkiller mixed with 325 miligrams of Tylenol shouldn't even be a prescription medication in the United States.
    Yes, it should. That "painkiller" is codeine, which is a Schedule II controlled substance that not only has a high potential for abuse, but it also has a substantially high risk for phyical and psychologic dependence.

    Quote Originally Posted by buckwheat View Post
    No scientific study ever done concluded that Endocet is habit-forming when used to deal with occasional pain caused by physical exertion.
    As stated before, Endocet is a combination drug of oxycodone and acetaminophen on the Schedule II list of the Controlled Substance Act. Therefore, like the aforementioned codeine, it has the same high potential for abuse and substantial high risk for physical and psychologic dependence.
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    give it up hooch.....let the druggies delude themselves....after all, self delusion is the reason for taking drugs to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckwheat View Post
    It's great advice.
    "If you play a Nicleback song backwards, you'll hear messages from the devil. Even worse, if you play it forward, you'll hear Nickleback." - Dave Grohl

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    Quote Originally Posted by saimyoji View Post
    give it up hooch.....let the druggies delude themselves....after all, self delusion is the reason for taking drugs to begin with.
    You got that right. Although I am a big fan of self delusion, often it is in this case it is also self destructive. Pain is trying to tell you to slow down or do less miles or carry less weight or do something other than pop a pill.

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