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    Quote Originally Posted by will1972 View Post
    But there was a little skirmish about 150 years ago that proved our government would not allow them to leave. They did try to leave, ONCE!
    Texas we'll keep.

    Texans, on the other hand....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deucalion View Post
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    There has been talk from time to time of northern VA seceding from the rest of the state. We send the bulk of the tax revenue to Richmond but don't get as much back. I haven't heard about the Harpers Ferry issue. The trail is federal property so I don't see this happening. If a war broke out over this, it could be called the A.T. War.

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    Quote Originally Posted by berninbush View Post
    Urban legend. Texas tried seceding with the rest of the Confederacy, and that didn't turn out so well. There WAS a special provision when Texas joined the Union, but it was that Texas could choose to sub-divide into five states if it wanted. That right was never exercised. Texas just gave up part of its land to form New Mexico.
    Quote Originally Posted by will1972 View Post
    Not true, they are the only state to join the union under treaty. But there was a little skirmish about 150 years ago that proved our government would not allow them to leave. They did try to leave, ONCE!

    Now, I might just be talking gibberish here. But my sister is currently taking a Texas Gov't Class in Austin Texas... She called me up to say that it WAS true. Because Texas was a COUNTRY before they joined the Union they have the right to split off at any time if their congress has a majority (maybe 2/3) vote on the issue. That's the same reason why the Texas State Flag can be flown above the U.S. Flag.

    But this is just what she learned in class, and I've known my profs to spew BS now and then, so it could be wrong.
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    what about PA? if we split do we keep the shelters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mweinstone View Post
    what about PA? if we split do we keep the shelters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackRyan View Post
    Now, I might just be talking gibberish here. But my sister is currently taking a Texas Gov't Class in Austin Texas... She called me up to say that it WAS true. Because Texas was a COUNTRY before they joined the Union they have the right to split off at any time if their congress has a majority (maybe 2/3) vote on the issue. That's the same reason why the Texas State Flag can be flown above the U.S. Flag.

    But this is just what she learned in class, and I've known my profs to spew BS now and then, so it could be wrong.
    Did she by chance call you on the first day of April?

    The Texas state flag can be flown over the U.S. flag. Now that's funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bags4266 View Post
    Oh? Please send me some type of link. Been here 50 yrs. and this is a first.
    this is a humor threard. but this is the link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNdtw...eature=related
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    Quote Originally Posted by john gault View Post
    Did she by chance call you on the first day of April?

    The Texas state flag can be flown over the U.S. flag. Now that's funny

    Haha no she didn't. But hey, it's what she was taught. Gotta love Our education system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deucalion View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Hiker View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by WingedMonkey View Post
    then what were all them blue coats doing in Jacksonville?


    Those were Michigan fans in town for the Gator Bowl. But the Mighty South (represented by the Miss State Bulldogs) beat their rear ends good (52-14).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackRyan View Post
    Now, I might just be talking gibberish here. But my sister is currently taking a Texas Gov't Class in Austin Texas... She called me up to say that it WAS true. Because Texas was a COUNTRY before they joined the Union they have the right to split off at any time if their congress has a majority (maybe 2/3) vote on the issue. That's the same reason why the Texas State Flag can be flown above the U.S. Flag.

    But this is just what she learned in class, and I've known my profs to spew BS now and then, so it could be wrong.
    Texas did vote to leave the Union in 1861 along with the other Southern states, and they were forcibly brought back with the rest. The treaty that joined Texas to the US had no such provisions, or the Texas legislature would certainly have called upon them to justify their decision.

    http://www.texassecede.com/faq.htm This is the best justification available for modern proponents of Texas secession. They admit that an explicit permission to secede was not included in the treaty of annexation, the Texas Constitution, or the US Constitution. Their argument is based solely on the fact that these documents do not explicitly forbid secession, and affirm the right of the people to "alter" their form of government if they are dissatisfied... the exact same right affirmed by the Declaration of Independence for all states. In my view, the right of Texas to secede is thus no more or less than the right of any state. You may believe all states have such a right, but Texas is not a "special" case just because of our unique history.

    If your sister's professor is teaching that Texas has (or had) a right specifically recognized by the US government to secede with a 2/3 vote of the Texas legislature, the professor is either lamentably ignorant or pushing an agenda.

    I will add that I personally am not entirely opposed to Texas secession if it could be accomplished peacefully and a good Texas government established.
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    There is no special flag code provision in the Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas nor in the Ordinance of Annexation. Like any other state flag, under the US Flag Code, the Texas flag may be flown at or under the same height as the US Flag. If at the same height, it must be to the US flag's right (position of honor).
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    I know plenty of people here in Texas who would love to secede from the union. From what I have heard, and I know that it's just heresay, Texas could be almost self-sustaining. My GGGrandfather was in the battle of San Jacinto and like so many other Texans, I have that burning Texas pride. It is part of who we are. It's like a whole other country.
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    Western Mass has been invaded by New Yorkers, there goes another state.

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    It is like a whole nother country. Almost like it had been annexed.

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    My grandparents had a little postcard they tacked on the wall, related to driving through Texas:

    "The sun has ris', the sun has set, and here here we is, in Texas yet!

    That just popped into my head.
    Formerly known as Texas Phlox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sly View Post
    Western Mass has been invaded by New Yorkers, there goes another state.
    Thats been lost for years!
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    If Texas wants to seceed from the US.. I'd be only too happy to see them go. allow me to hold the door open for ya boys.. here's a little shove to make leavin' easier! America's a better place without ya!

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