Keep in mind the OP is only going to be out 2.5-3 months.
Right, so K to NYC should work well. The all the way to Springer comment was semi-jocular, and of course it wouldn't be unheard-of for someone to change their mind during the hike and continue on to Dixieland.Originally Posted by max patch
The more miles, the merrier!
NH4K: 21/48; N.E.4K: 25/67; NEHH: 28/100; Northeast 4K: 27/115; AT: 124/2191
Pure madness? No not really! Hot and humid in the beginning, yes! Without the comradarie of thru-hikers, yes!
There are no wrong ways to break up the AT. There are an infite number of ways you could do the AT in two long section hikes. One of the distinct benefits is that you get to pick and chose what section you want to do to when you want to do it to satisfy your desired experiences. You can really have your cake and eat it too! Hike with the nice weather, hike with the changing seasons, hike following spring, hike to follow the wildflowers blooming, hike to experience the fall colors, hike to possibly experience a little snow, hike to experience NO snow, hike within a temp and/or weather range, hike to stay within the main body of AT thru-hikers, hike so you meet thruhikers as you hike in the oppsite direction of the hoards of thru-hikers, hike to have more solitude, etc etc etc. Organize your sections according to your desires!
When breaking up the AT into two long sections you may lose that sense of continuity and finishing with those who you have come to know as your friends, but it really has so many advantages IF YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY!
There is some info in the AT thru-hikers book and here on WB discussing some of the more common hiking options. So many AT books get into the possibilities too. It started to make my head swim when I started reading about the options!
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You don't discuss your plans in detail, but I will note that you should plan it wisely! Most of the time I thru-hike from end to end but when I know ahead of time I have to complete a trail/hike by coming back during multiple seasons/phases I try to simplyfy things for the second section leg/phase. End the first leg at a spot where it will be easy/convenient to get back on trail for the second leg. Keep in mind your finishing pt. You and your hiking buddies are coming from OZ and England! Think about the transportation questions. FWIW, I think it somewhat anti-climactic finishing the AT at Springer Mt when compared to finishing at Mt Katahdin or someplace else like it. For example, if you start in PA too far south you may find yourself at Springer Mt before you are ready to go home. You can run out of trail to hike, possibly NOT using your trail time in the U.S. as efficiently as possible. Just the opposite can occur if you start too far north and don't adjust your hiking rate. You may not get to the southern terminus when it's time to leave in Nov leaving you with two ends of the trail open FAR apart! I've done that to myself! Makes it harder and longer traveling around finishing up the far distant pieces of trail! Just hiking in one direction during the entire multi phase hike is probably the easiest, but you have to judge that for yourself and your parties goals.
As yet another option, you could hike SOBO starting at the northern terminus(Mt Katahdin) in August. Plan on getting someplace specific to end that first SOBO leg. It will be where you END your AT hike on your second leg(and finishing the entire AT!) when going NOBO starting at Springer. Weigh the pros/cons!
Just to reinforce what has been said about humidity. It's a bitch if you're not accustomed to it.
A few years back I went on a business trip to Vegas, where it was around 107 degrees the whole time we were there. All of us walked everywhere, and were pretty much completely comfortable the entire time. When the plane landed back here in Iowa the pilot announced on descent that the temp was 83 degrees. We walked out of the airport and every one of us, nearly in unison, said "Holy ****, it's hot!!!!" And this is a group of people that have lived in the Iowa humidity our entire lives, and should be used to it.
I don't know which part of Austraila you're from, but don't take humidity lightly. It very much amplifies the effects of heat on your body, both from a physical comfort standpoint, and from a health standpoint. (For one, your sweat won't evaporate as well, which drastically reduces its cooling effect...)
95 degrees in the woods is NOT the same thing as 95 degrees in the desert.
The type of humidity that is being talked about is enough that you actually have to think about breathing. The air feels "thick" and it actually takes effort to suck it into your lungs.
From a fellow Aussie...... I agree with those who suggest you start at Katahdin & go south.
Being from Perth, you know about hot summers, but down in GA (even in PA) it will be humid as *%#%$ you will be uncomfortable, but it would probably kill your Pommie mates
New England is my favourite part of the US & as others have mentioned you will get to see the Fall foliage.
well, that certainly gives us some things to think about. Definitely not going to start in Georgia, but Katahdin or somewhere else.. Great info, much appreciated
I agree with all those above. Hiking SOUTHBOUND from Pennsylvania would be a better decision. I operate a hostel in southern Pennsylvania and we get a few southbounder's around your projected start date. You can e-mail me if you need some assistance in Pennsylvania [email protected]
I am from "up north" and can say that having section hiked the A.T. in Georgia in August over the course of a few years, the heat and humidity are significant. What everyone said is true, 100degF and 100% humidity. With that said, going up in elevation and being in the shade of the woods made a good big difference. I would not consider it madness. Water was never a problem. Every night I stayed at a shelter and there was water at every one of them. The day time heat can make it more difficult, just take your time adjusting and don't start out on the first few days with plans of doing large miles like 15 perday. Keep it under 10miles per day, or even just 5 miles per day to start.
Actually, winter doesn't really get going in VA and TN until December. In November it's actually quite pleasant during the afternoon, it's only the chilly mornings and evenings you'd have to worry about.
people hike all sections at all times of the year... november its gettn cold here in Va u might see a dusting or somthing but no snow storms here in november usualy... aslong as you keep yourself drinking water i think you would have a enjoyable time in the south in the summer... it cant be that bad or noone would live there...
I have hiked lot during the summers on the AT in NC. The mountains are cooler and humidity is down. We've always used tarps and have not had a problem with bugs or mosquitos. Remember that much of the trail is covered by trees or Rhododendron, so you have good shade. Water is only a problem if the area is in a drought (it's not now). Days are longer than in early spring, and it's very practical to hike earlier in the morning, and after dinner. The only downside is in GA and NC the typical summer weather pattern is for afternoon or even thunderstorms to blow through. Sometimes this happens every day.
Don't confuse the low land temperatures and humidity with the mountains. Asheville,NC is well known for florida retirees who winter in Florida, but come to the NC mountains in the summer for the nicer weather.
I would not hesitate to recommend hiking in this area in the summer...
Well, remember people were steadily leaving the South until air conditioning because pretty much universal. Otherwise, the great in-migration to the South from the '70s on wouldn't have happened. So while lots of us live here, we think long and hard about how we exert ourselves in the great outdoors in mid-summer. All that being said, the mountains are cooler, and if you have plenty of water and don't mind being drenched in sweat all the time, it's still possible to enjoy yourself.
Has anyone mentioned cooler, less humid nights? Sleeping too hot is the only thing that bothers me in Florida. That's the reason we don't camp in the summer here. Oh yes and the blazing sun and lack of shade for most hiking trails. The southern AT has got to be better than that.
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