Originally Posted by
Water Rat
Here are the majority of my posts on this thread. Yes, I participated in thread drift. However, that was only AFTER the OP drifted on his own thread and it was already a free-for-all.
“Hike Your Own Hike and Live Your Own Life... Pretty easy and should be the same thing. If your hike doesn't include drinking, then don't hang out with those who choose to drink. I don't hang out with those who are drinking to get drunk. That is my choice - On and off the trail. If someone gets in my face with their drinking, I will deal with it as the situation arises. Have never met anyone who forced me to hang out with them so they could get drunk... I just walk away. I am not the drinking police.
Still, telling someone how they should hike their hike/live? Telling someone they can't go drink to get drunk (because that is not the way you hike/live)... That is on the same level as someone forcing their drunkenness on your hike. It goes both ways. If you don't want someone telling you how to hike your hike/live your life, then you have to respect they are hiking their own hike/living their own life.
Just my opinion.”
“My statements were made toward this thread in general. If you have issue with my saying Hike Your Own Hike, then maybe you need to look at why you are feeling that way. It was a statement, an opinion... I thought this was a forum for expressing thought? There was no judgement directed toward any single person.
If you present an opinion/rant/thought on a forum, you will get responses. Not always the responses you are looking for, but that is just the way it is. If you don't want responses, then don't post on a public forum. Obviously, not everyone is going to agree. I have also found that anyone coming here looking for a fight, will probably find it.
People will not change because you want them to change. They have to want to change. If you don't like a particular thing someone is doing, then don't hike with them. There is no shortage of hiking partners on the AT. Just be upfront with them about what you are looking for in a hiking partner.”
“But, if they are spending that much time drinking, then they aren't hiking. Perfect time to get out and hit the trail!
Just a thought, but... If someone chooses to spend their hike drinking.... Shouldn't that be their choice to make? Everyone hits the trail for different reasons. Their hike doesn't have to be your hike. Just like your hike doesn't have to be their hike.”
“But one post builds on another post and another post... That is just the way it is on WB. On the internet, ANYONE can read what they want into something someone says. A person cannot read the poster's body language, facial expressions, or hear the tone with which the thought is being expressed. Just like you took my postings and thought they were completely directed at you. I was using "you" as a a reference to "anyone." Given that, I will change the language of my post to read as follows:
My statements were made toward this thread in general. If you (Different Socks) have issue with my saying Hike Your Own Hike, then maybe you need to look at why you are feeling that way. It was a statement, an opinion... I thought this was a forum for expressing thought? There was no judgement directed toward any single person.
If a person presents an opinion/rant/thought on a forum, they will get responses. Not always the responses they want, but that is just the way it is. If a person does not want people to respond, then they shouldn't post on a public forum. Obviously, not everyone is going to agree. I have also found that anyone coming here looking for a fight, will probably find it.
People will not change because someone wants them to change. The other person has to want to change their behavior. If someone doesn't like a particular thing someone else is doing, then don't hike with that person. There is no shortage of hiking partners on the AT. Everyone should be upfront with others about what they are looking for in a hiking partner.
** It seems you are getting other views.
** You (Different Socks) can take my statement "I have also found that anyone coming here looking for a fight, will probably find it." however you want. It was an observation. It was a continuation of the thought not everyone will agree with what is said on a thread.”
“Being an adult means a person needs to know how to be able to compromise and deal with things. Rather than going up to someone and saying, "Don't do this..." there might be better approaches to the situation. Most people are willing to listen when somoene politely asks them not to do something. Sometimes, things don't spiral into a battle if the situation is approached in a calm, reasonable manner.”
“This is an internet forum...a place for people to express their thoughts and opinions. OP started a thread expressing their opinion. Others now chime in and do the same. WB has never struck me as a place where someone posts a thread stating their likes and dislikes, then finds a hiking partner to match. This is not HikerMatch.com. This is WB. This is the place where HYOH is an answer that comes up time, and time again. WB is also the place where if people feel like they are being told how to hike their hike, they will come back with responses the poster doesn't like.
Different Socks - I have a question for you. This is the internet, so why does it matter what the rest of us think? Why are you worried about a bunch of people being "judgemental" at their keyboards? If you want a hiking buddy, the best way to go about it is to hit the trail. That is the best place to find someone who hikes at your pace, has similar habits, etc. You can't form an honest opinion of someone's "hike" until you are on the trail with them.”
*** I went through and clarified when Different Socks quoted my posts. I fail to see how anything posted here can be construed as an attack. Different Socks was looking for opinions (that is what he stated) and he got them. Yes, I told him to hit the trail. Wasn't said with any malice. I have just found that things sort themselves out on the trail. What seems to be an issue behind a computer monitor/screen, is rarely ever an issue on the trail. Additionally, selecting someone to hike with based on their internet claims can also be misleading. Best to just get out there and find someone to hike with. People with the same hiking speed will tend to keep meeting up, and then take it from there.
What is wrong with that way of thinking?