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    try melatonin or take a benadryl they put me to sleep every time

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    Occasionally I take Lorazopam or Klonopin. I know they are kinda strong but not as wierd as ambien and not as habit forming. Thats the only thing that shuts my mind down when I got a lot going on.

    Thats what you want though to really sleep. You dont want to be on semi-alert. If something attacks you, you will still wake up

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    Quote Originally Posted by WILLIAM HAYES View Post
    try melatonin or take a benadryl they put me to sleep every time
    I tried melatonin, it did nothing for me, its too weak

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    Quote Originally Posted by neonshaw View Post
    Occasionally I take Lorazopam or Klonopin. I know they are kinda strong but not as wierd as ambien and not as habit forming.
    You got those reversed. A benzodiazepine like Lorazopam is more habit forming than Ambien.
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    wrong! They are both benoz's Ambien is quicker acting and shorter duration than Lorazepam, but both are "habit forming" Ambien more so than A
    tivan (Lorazepam).
    Bacarti 151 works best!


    Quote Originally Posted by ChinMusic View Post
    You got those reversed. A benzodiazepine like Lorazopam is more habit forming than Ambien.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobby View Post
    wrong! They are both benoz's Ambien is quicker acting and shorter duration than Lorazepam, but both are "habit forming" Ambien more so than A
    tivan (Lorazepam).
    Bacarti 151 works best!
    Uhhhh, Ambien is most certainly NOT a benzo. In fact is is called a NON-benzo.

    Furthermore......

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/ambien/AN01812

    It's unlikely you'll become dependent on zolpidem (Ambien). Ambien and similar sleep medications are effective and much less likely to be habit-forming than are some other drugs sometimes prescribed for sleep problems — for example, benzodiazepines, such as alprazolam (Xanax), lorazepam (Ativan) or temazepam (Restoril).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChinMusic View Post
    Uhhhh, Ambien is most certainly NOT a benzo. In fact is is called a NON-benzo.

    Furthermore......

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/ambien/AN01812
    you are absolutely correct ChinMusic. One of the reasons drugs such as Ambien were developed is because of their less addictive properties versus the benzodiazepines.

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    I wouldn't think that sleep would be a problem on the trail b/c of the daily vigorous exercise. I sleep very lightly when I'm on the trail but I've only been out for 10 days at a time. You keep um straight T-Rx..

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    Ambien CR contains zolpidem tartrate, a non-benzodiazepine hypnotic of the imidazopyridine class. Ambien CR (zolpidem tartrate extended-release tablets) is available in 6.25 mg and 12.5 mg strength tablets for oral administration.

    this is directly from the prescribing info. For Ambien. Hope it helps clear things up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HikerMomKD View Post
    I wouldn't think that sleep would be a problem on the trail b/c of the daily vigorous exercise. I sleep very lightly when I'm on the trail but I've only been out for 10 days at a time. You keep um straight T-Rx..
    My max has been 8 days and by the end of the trip I was sleeping fine sans help. Ambien has been very helpful for the first few days of a trip. My plan is to only use it the first few days. YMMV
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    try an iPod with podcasts like NPR's most emailed stories. drowns out background noises, distracts you from your worries, and turns itself off after about 30 minutes.

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    I have worked with Melatonin (sp), Ambian, Benedryl. I found that there were several things that helped me sleep.
    #1: I NEVER sleep the first night - get over it!
    #2: I need to watch what sleeping pad I bring. My Nemo sucks! It makes too much noise when I turn over, and I wake up EVERY time! I generously passed it off to my Scoutmaster husband, who quickly "gifted" it to our son who is oblivious to the world when he sleeps...lol. Lesson: Check out (reviews) on your sleep mat for noise factor.
    #3: Ear plugs: While I worry about the rare psycho, I do put ear plugs partially in my ears to minimize the noise from the local snorers....
    #4: No caffeine or fried foods after 3pm.

    Happy sleeping!

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    #4: No caffeine or fried foods after 3pm.


    fried food on the trail?

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    1 oz of Tart Cherry juice to 7ozs of water. Sleep like a baby. Make sure it's Montmorency Tart Chery Juice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canoe View Post
    #4: No caffeine or fried foods after 3pm.


    fried food on the trail?
    ...can happen... depending on where you are at. I had major issues after that Cheeseburger and fries I so enjoyed at Big Meadows in SNP!

    Normally, my system could have handled the greasy food, but this time - ah, NO!

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    I sleep very lightly when on the trail or when camping on bicycle tours. I find I still wake up rested though.

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