Esbit Stove

[zelph]

Let's see if a photobucket video will work. Click on the photo to view:

[zelph]

Lot's of requests so I made some available:

http://www.woodgaz-stove.com/mini-esbitmizer.php

[300winmag]

I will challenge Zelph or anyone else to develop a more efficient ESBIT stove than the Trail Designs Sidewinder (or other Caldera Cone stove) with the Brian Green Blog improved tablet holder. My stove utilized a 3 cup Open Country pot that came with the Sidewinder. This is a hard anodized aluminum pot with a height-to-width ratio that is optimum for heating water and other cooking. (This has been proven in tests. Tall, narrow pots/cans are just not as efficient.)

Having tinkered with ESBIT stove design over the years I finally found the Caldera Cone Sidewinder. A year later I heard about the Brian Green improved Gram Cracker tablet holder. This holder almost doubles the burn time by containing the liquid residue of ESBIT tablets.

Together the pot shape, stove design and tablet holder give ESBIT fuel tablets maximum thermal efficiency and burn time. But, hey, I'm always open to new ideas - IF they work.

[earlyriser26]

Although having a campfire is not always possible this titanium grill only weighs about 4ounces and I've had it since 1981.I don't think any gram weanie stove can do this...Attachment 18409

Bought one of those in 1975 and never used it. Just moved and finally tossed it. Glad someone actually has used one.

[levibarry]

I just purchased a Mini-Esbitmizer and plan to play around with it. Have been using esbit only, with .9L, .6L and a .550ml pots. I agree they are great with a Sidewinder w/ graham cracker stove. Also have used the ti-wing stove with the sidewinder, but because the sidewinder I have is for the .9L pot, I decided to play with some other combo's. I did this to reduce weight but also I use boil in bag type meals. The thing I wanted is being able to have the option to use alcohol if I wanted without carrying two stoves. Also I have my cook system under 5 oz. for pot, wind shield, ground protector, and pot stand. That's using either the 600ml or 550ml. Boil times have been 6-7 minutes up around Mt hood on the PCT. Also I do wish for a sidewinder that would work with the 600ml or 550ml pots without the band.

My 2cents.

Levibarry

[zelph]

I will challenge Zelph or anyone else to develop a more efficient ESBIT stove than the Trail Designs Sidewinder (or other Caldera Cone stove) with the Brian Green Blog improved tablet holder. My stove utilized a 3 cup Open Country pot that came with the Sidewinder. This is a hard anodized aluminum pot with a height-to-width ratio that is optimum for heating water and other cooking. (This has been proven in tests. Tall, narrow pots/cans are just not as efficient.)

Having tinkered with ESBIT stove design over the years I finally found the Caldera Cone Sidewinder. A year later I heard about the Brian Green improved Gram Cracker tablet holder. This holder almost doubles the burn time by containing the liquid residue of ESBIT tablets.

Together the pot shape, stove design and tablet holder give ESBIT fuel tablets maximum thermal efficiency and burn time. But, hey, I'm always open to new ideas - IF they work.

The Caldera Sidewinder with the Mini Esbitmizer should prove to be more efficient than with the Brian Green burner because the incoming air ports have been fine tuned(quantity) to burn very efficiently. The sliding lid will give the user more control of how fast the esbit burns. The esbitmizer also retains all the liquid esbit to assure a complete burn of all the fuel.
Here are some links to 4 gram esbit sellers:

http://www.adventuresurvivalequipment.com/esbit-4-gram-fuel-cube.htmlIn stock

http://www.sunnysports.com/p-ucoessf...pieces-4-gramslow stock


http://www.ministeam.com/acatalog/Esbit.html in stock


http://www.top-gear.co.nz/shop/CAMPI...del+08100.html


http://casanovasadventures.com/catal...m#.VNrM9Xl0zrc

http://www.pmmodelengines.com/shop/b...sbit-dry-fuel/


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Esbit-4g-Sol...item3cf2ad50a1 (in stock)


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Esbit-Solid-...item259ddef340


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Esbit-4g-Sol...item418785f17e


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Esbit-Smokel...item19fb3df811



http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-Esbit-Hexamine-5-minute-Solid-Fuel-Tablets-Pocket-Stove-Fire-Starter-Cubes-/291113186677?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43c7b2 b575

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Esbit-Solid-...item418b434f9d


http://www.ebay.com/itm/ESBIT-4-GRAM...item2a39f0e664

[zelph]

I just purchased a Mini-Esbitmizer and plan to play around with it. Have been using esbit only, with .9L, .6L and a .550ml pots. I agree they are great with a Sidewinder w/ graham cracker stove. Also have used the ti-wing stove with the sidewinder, but because the sidewinder I have is for the .9L pot, I decided to play with some other combo's. I did this to reduce weight but also I use boil in bag type meals. The thing I wanted is being able to have the option to use alcohol if I wanted without carrying two stoves. Also I have my cook system under 5 oz. for pot, wind shield, ground protector, and pot stand. That's using either the 600ml or 550ml. Boil times have been 6-7 minutes up around Mt hood on the PCT. Also I do wish for a sidewinder that would work with the 600ml or 550ml pots without the band.

My 2cents.

Levibarry

Thank you for your purchase:-)

I can easily boil 2 cups of water with three 4 gram tablets in the mini esbitmizer under an aluminum pot. The energy is in the tablets :-)

Here is a youtube video of the Mini:

[zelph]

Here is some interesting information from an avid esbit user. He posted this info on my website, bplite.com

quote JB:

Interestingly, I have started using the little 4 gram esbits rather than the larger standard 14 gram size ones. I find that I end up being able to shave a couple ounces off the total weight of them, and makes for less mess because I am not hauling around partially used cubes.


You are in the middle of the freaking wilderness... how can the smell of esbit really be so bad worth going through all of this effort? Even a slight breeze and you are just never going to smell esbit. I think some of you guys need to get out of your houses more and into the woods. If you guys think the problem with esbit is the smell.... well, try lifting your arm up and taking a wiff after you have been out there for four or five days.
Pretty neat getting esbit to simmer. I have seen a couple of folks come up with systems to do that.

Only time I really care about simmering is if I am in a base-camp situation, which are very very rare for me (maybe once every four or five years) and the use of canister/liquid fuel is typically used.

When it comes to my long distance hikes, it is all about getting water up to around the 175 °F (crab eyes level) in order to have the water hot enough for food and tea or coffee. For that I could just set the esbit cube on the ground, but these days I use the brian green esbit tray which is about 4 grams in weight and does a rather nice job of getting the ground from getting scorched and giving me a complete burnoff of the cube without residual left on the tray.

But anyway, yeah, having the container like you do could prove to be helpful for those who would like to be able to keep their half-burned esbit cube contained in a clean manner. Not really sure of a situation where it would need to be so long as to hold two or three esbit cubes, but then as I already mentioned, never done any dry bake cooking with esbit, so for those who do do that, this could potentially be a pretty sweet little design.
I have had great success with the little 4gram esbits. I switched over to them very earlier this year and have not bought the larger ones at all. A bit less residue and almost never have to worry about carrying around a used esbit. If you can ever get some, you should give them a go.
I use two of the 4 grams (so 8g total, compared to 14 grams for the larger/regular size) and usually have no problem getting crab eyes (175'ish) temperatures. With the larger 0.9 pot I do have to use three, but that is still 12 grams compared to 14 grams, and zero left over, partially used esbit left sitting in my pack. Gram for gram, on both a long distance and short distance hike, the 4 grams give you a better weight to performance ratio then the 14 gram cubes do. So weight together with not having half-used cubes, together with less pack space (bulk) makes these a better option - as least as I see it. The problem is trying to find them. In trail stores they are non-existent. It is hard enough finding 14g esbit cubes on the big three trails here in the USA. These little guys are probably impossible. So, I just order up a case or two a year and throw them into maildrops and/or stashes.

Unless you are needing to sterilize water, forget about the whole "water must be boiling" aspect.

Just a bunch of marketing crap that has come about over the years as companies need to define a base-line for how fast their stoves work.

In the real world (*cough* out on the trail *cough*) a hiker never ever needs to bring their water to a boil, unless they are in a situation where they need to sterilize water or are melting snow.

I suppose there might be some out there who enjoy eating their food when it contains 195(f) or hotter water, but I have never meet anybody who did.

And I am not sure I have ever encountered anybody who consumed their coffee/tea at 195+ degrees either.

The vast majority of dehydrated meals will reconstitute just as fast in 175 degree water as it will in 195 degree water. It has more about ToC (time of contact) than it does temperatures.

[Connie]

I tested that: my coffee is sippin' hot at 165 F.

I let it cool a bit more, then I drink it.

[zelph]

Order a Mini Esbitmizer and get 2 pair free:

Order any stove and get 3 pair free

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