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    Default Because sometimes you need crampons.

    What are some good, lightweight but solid crampons? I am out for the next few months and I'd love to bag some peaks, nothing too crazy. Does anyone have any recommendations for solid crampons that aren't relegated to a few miles before falling apart? I've heard the microspikes are good but that they don't really last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferdinand the bull View Post
    What are some good, lightweight but solid crampons? I am out for the next few months and I'd love to bag some peaks, nothing too crazy. Does anyone have any recommendations for solid crampons that aren't relegated to a few miles before falling apart? I've heard the microspikes are good but that they don't really last.
    What kind of peaks are we talking about? Local foot hills trails or more technical climbing?

    Though meant for trail running, this article gives a great overview for traction devices for lighter footwear. The only review missing is for in-step crampons. In-step crampons are a bit impractical for trailrunning and/or for some lighter footwear. However, if you use traditional boots, the in-step crampons have proven to be a good option for hikers in icy, but non-technical, conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mags View Post
    What kind of peaks are we talking about? Local foot hills trails or more technical climbing?

    Though meant for trail running, this article gives a great overview for traction devices for lighter footwear. The only review missing is for in-step crampons. In-step crampons are a bit impractical for trailrunning and/or for some lighter footwear. However, if you use traditional boots, the in-step crampons have proven to be a good option for hikers in icy, but non-technical, conditions.
    semi technical un roped climbing, nothing too gnarly but more than a hike up a snow covered trail. Some things in the Sierras and possible S. America. I'm not a seasoned alpineist so again, were talking relativity benign routes.

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    Microspikes aren't crampons.

    If you get Kathoola KTS crampons, or something similar, make sure you adjust and use them properly. I can't emphasize the latter strongly enough.

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    Sounds like the in-step may be good for you.

    Get them, and try going up Fern Canyon here in Boulder. A very good test. It is a luge run in winter.
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    great article, thank's a lot. Sounds like the Microspikes will work out after all.

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    I meant the Kahtoola Crampons, not the Microspikes. Great, thanks again.

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    Default Because sometimes you need crampons.

    It sounds like you mean tarsal 6 point crampons and not full alpine 10 points. Here with all the steep dunes and snow mixed in, having your foot stay where planted can be an issue. I like my Hillsound Cyprus 6. Not sure exactly what you are looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mags View Post
    Sounds like the in-step may be good for you.

    Get them, and try going up Fern Canyon here in Boulder. A very good test. It is a luge run in winter.
    i found in-steps useless going up or down. climbing down into the NOC in snow and ice the in-step had to hit each rock. not the front or heal of shoe, but in the smokies they were a God sent

    i use icespikes now.
    I'm so confused, I'm not sure if I lost my horse or found a rope.

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    Kahtoola Flight Boots are great if you can find a pair in your size.
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    It sounds like you might need real crampons. More important, you need more knowledge. Do these climbs with experienced climbers and go with the equipment they recommend.

    Kahtoola microspikes can roll off your feet on steep terrain. They help a lot walking on ice/packed snow, but have limits. Once ice gets too hard or steep, you need crampons. In New England, microspikes (or snowshoes) are the most common traction, but once conditions get too severe people switch to real crampons or turn around. It's a lot easier to get into dangerous terrain in Colo. than in New England, so be careful.

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    So I may be in patagonia, and I'd like to mess around on some of the smaller peaks. I think the light weight Kahtoola Aluminum Crampons may be the ticket.

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    At first I thought the title said that sometimes you need something else, rhymes with crampons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuddyWaters View Post
    At first I thought the title said that sometimes you need something else, rhymes with crampons.
    You throw that in with the similarity to cramps, as well - it can be mistaken a number of ways. My coworkers still think I am nuts when I talk about crampons. My daughters won't even let me talk about them in public.

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    I am posting this as both a suggestion and a question for the more experienced folks; Based my extremely limited experience with crampons, it seems that any time that crampons are needed it is also a good idea to have an ice axe with you and to know how to use it to self arrest in the event that you fall down an icy slope. Just a thought.
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    If you think you need Crampons I hope you also have a Traverse Axe...you'll need it for self arrest in case you do slip and slide down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcasm the elf View Post
    I am posting this as both a suggestion and a question for the more experienced folks; Based my extremely limited experience with crampons, it seems that any time that crampons are needed it is also a good idea to have an ice axe with you and to know how to use it to self arrest in the event that you fall down an icy slope. Just a thought.
    OOPS! Never mind its all ready been stated
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcasm the elf View Post
    I am posting this as both a suggestion and a question for the more experienced folks; Based my extremely limited experience with crampons, it seems that any time that crampons are needed it is also a good idea to have an ice axe with you and to know how to use it to self arrest in the event that you fall down an icy slope. Just a thought.

    definitely, I'm very new to alpine but I couldn't agree more. I'm not going to bite off something I can't chew if there's a climb way over my head, I'll sit it out.

    Sarcasm the Elf, I'm in Ct right now, any solid hikes you can think of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferdinand the bull View Post

    Sarcasm the Elf, I'm in Ct right now, any solid hikes you can think of?
    What part of the state are you in?

    For day hiking, the first thing tht comes to mind is Sleeping Giant park in Hamden, there are a huge number of trails in it with lots of options, the view from the old stone firetower on top are great.

    http://www.sgpa.org/
    Sleeping giant trail map: http://www.myotherdrive.com/dyn/file...W-Map-2012.pdf

    If you're looking for a 2-3 day trip, several of us did the A.T./Mohawk trail loop in January and it was a blast, we started a thread when we were planning it that had the details:

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    Serious?

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