Owl and TriPod, I've got both of you pegged.
If either one of you post a non edited video of this process igniting a piece of char cloth it will go viral. You'll be famous around the survival forums. The two of you are perpetuating an Old Wives tale. Yes, we are entitled to our own opinions and I respect that. All I ask is a video of the Owl igniting the char with a polished can bottom. Without a video, it didn't happen.
Don't think for a minute that I have not spent hours on the coke can myth. I spent years as a Hoodlum on Hoods Woods Survival.com and watch the best fail at this process of making fire. I was there when Tinny from Minibull design got banned from the forums because of his spamming. Is there any wonder I have a dislike for spammers that come here to do their thing. Spammers and BS'rs, too many around. But, nothing we can do about it. So we live with it.
all is well, just do the video, both of you or it didn't happen