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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Bill View Post
    You're doing it all wrong! A real outdoorsman sleeps with the bear to take advantage of it's warmth. A depraved (not deprived) outdoorsman has sex with the bear first.
    Is that before or after he sews his mittens and mixes his cocktail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aficion View Post
    Is that before or after he sews his mittens and mixes his cocktail?
    Mix the cocktails first, offer one to the bear. Ideally make friends. If all goes well enjoy the evening. If not...sew new mittens out of the bear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hill Ape View Post
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    so i briefly went over to the dark side. here's my take on hammocks. great for taking a nap, damn sure more comfy than the ground, but far to much hassle. two bags just does not compute with me.

    i did make a cool frame though, wanted to show it off to you lot. all bamboo, even the ridge pole, cut from neighbors, bearfeeder (i've named her), property. i saw the design over on that much more civil forum.

    not like i'm ever gonna strap these poles to my pack, but it was fun to make. gets alot of strange questions from folk
    I'm sure the stand is more hassle than two trees. That said, it does take a half dozen times setting up hammock and tarp to feel comfortable with it. I mainly hammock with my sons' Boy Scout troop, and I've gotten to where I can set my hammock and tarp up about as fast as a troop of mixed age (from new scouts to almost Eagles) Boy Scouts can set up tents. I can take down much faster than they can. I use a sleeping pad (24" Walmart blue foam) and sleeping bag (30 degree mummy). Can use the same combo on the ground. I don't do it for weight savings, but for comfort (my 48 yr old back much prefers the hammock to the ground). Had to sleep on the ground last campout, and it wasn't nearly as good sleeping as I'm used to.
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    Were you dealing with straps or ropes? I could understand it you were trying to adjust your hammock by tying and re-tying ropes over and over, trying to get it right. But with whoopies and tree straps, it should have been a 45 second process....

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    Shouldn't this be in another forum? This should be in either general or tent camping instead of a forum about how to hammock camp, which by the way is an extremely viable, and in many ways, preferable way to camp. I just don't see the point of coming "here" to say that hammocks are good for naps and that's it. If you're looking for advice on how to make it more than just a nap/lounge, etc., then there's plenty of that to go around, but I don't get the impression that's what you're looking for - thus, the reason I say it doesn't belong here.
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    Hammock-ed my entire 2013 through hike. Took me about 20 minutes to set up, and 15 minutes to take down. Using the Hammock opened up a lot of creative camp sites. The Hammock also insulates you from things that creep upon the ground. I used a sill nylon tarp as a rain fly, and on occasion when it was really cold, I used the tarp as a tent. Always kept tarp & para chord where I could get to it quickly. More then once I whipped out the tarp strung it up, and my gear & I stayed dry as a passing thunder shower passed through. The hammock allowed me to hike with the light of day, no need to settle for a tent site or shelter, location while there was still day light. Late in the day I would load up on water, and then as the sun set I would simply find a couple of trees to string my hammock between.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hill Ape View Post
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    so i briefly went over to the dark side. here's my take on hammocks. great for taking a nap, damn sure more comfy than the ground, but far to much hassle. two bags just does not compute with me.

    i did make a cool frame though, wanted to show it off to you lot. all bamboo, even the ridge pole, cut from neighbors, bearfeeder (i've named her), property. i saw the design over on that much more civil forum.

    not like i'm ever gonna strap these poles to my pack, but it was fun to make. gets alot of strange questions from folk
    Funny, but I'm pretty sure your views will change as you age. For some reason the ground gets harder as we get older

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    Quote Originally Posted by dla View Post
    Funny, but I'm pretty sure your views will change as you age. For some reason the ground gets harder as we get older
    Lordy, I know that's right!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Bill View Post
    You're doing it all wrong! A real outdoorsman sleeps with the bear to take advantage of it's warmth. A depraved (not deprived) outdoorsman has sex with the bear first.
    Who buys dinner first and who lights the smokes after?

    Does she continue to growl thru the night?

    Hill Ape I am sure you will figure it out ,,,when in doubt there's Hammock Forums...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckT View Post
    Hassle? Yes.
    Weight? A wash ('depending).
    Cold? Oh yeah! Here in E Central Fla it isn't supposed to be cold! So what was that then? Thought I was freezing my butt.
    Learning curve? That's a 4sure. Think about setting up in the rain, on a solo. Who you gonna call?
    (Of course I keep thinking that when we stop learning, we start dieing.)

    I've gone over to hanging because I'm coming back to this after a 20+ year hiatus and 60+ year-old back! Will I make it work? I'll let you know in next spring.

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    Setting up in the rain? Well...actually, setting up and taking down in the rain is one of the advantages of hammocking. When it's raining you simply take out your tarp first and set it up. Then under the protection of the tarp you set up your hammock. If it's really pouring you can quickly remove the straps from the hammock, attach them to the tree and hook them back to the hammock under the tarp. Using this simple process will keep your hammock high and dry. Not so much with most tents. Who you gonna call? To take the hammock down in a rain you simply reverse the process and leave the wet tarp on the outside of the pack. I did this many times during my AT hike.

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    Yup, worked that out. "How? Running-bare knows how. Need um practice!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by msupple View Post
    Setting up in the rain? Well...actually, setting up and taking down in the rain is one of the advantages of hammocking.
    Amen! Ive done the rain thing a couple of times. my tarp is set up in its little sack to deploy in the rain. Clip one line around the tree to itself, run the other end around the tree and tie off a prussic, and pull the bag off. I can have the tarp rigged pretty quickly, and set up under it. It was a wet year for our area, and two times I went with others, all the ground bounders but one got wet some how. My friend with the tarp tent stayed dry, and me in the trees. After my first trip with the ENO, I've lean red the marlin spike hitch and made longer straps, which will speed me up even more. I don't get how some people have troubles with insulation. Set it up properly at home, then don't screw around with the rigging, just clip the UQ to the hammock and be done with it.
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    I absolutely love my hammock. I got it on ebay and it was an old Scottish navy hammock (but never used). It takes me barely any time at all to set up-- tie two knots around two properly spaced trees, attach the carabiners, throw tarp over and stake them into the ground... done. It did take a lot of experimenting to get the equipment right, but since my hammock gets to be 2/3 the size and weight of my tent I felt okay with adding in my panty liner. It's a sleeping pad with wings to keep everything in place. The thing is awesome. I really do love it. The wind gets right up under you and it can be cold which is why you need the sleeping pad to stay in place.

    I grew up on sleeping in notoriously rocky campsites and always rolled off of my sleeping pads, and now having a shoulder injury it's a lot more comfortable.

    The one thing that I have totally avoided thinking about is what to do if there is a thunder storm. Pray is my only idea.

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