Shennies and Shenandoahs...

[Sarcasm the elf]

I get far more bent out of shape when people (usually on Facebook hiking pages) call it "The A.T. Trail" or try to discuss "Lymes" disease.




Oh well, I have lots of pet peeves.

I also have lots of pets.

Heck, most of the time my pets are the cause of my pet peeves.

[Xycon]

Interesting. I had a professor who did his research on dialects and folklore of the Appalachian region and he was an "appalachun" guy. Now, that's "appalahchia" not "appalaychia," which he did make sure we all knew. Are you sure you're not wrong?


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I could very well be wrong, hah, I just think it personally rolls off the tongue better.

[Sarcasm the elf]

On a similar note, it annoys me when people say appalachun trail rather than appalashan trail, but no need to get all up in arms about it lol

Interesting. I had a professor who did his research on dialects and folklore of the Appalachian region and he was an "appalachun" guy. Now, that's "appalahchia" not "appalaychia," which he did make sure we all knew. Are you sure you're not wrong?


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The rough answer is that it's regional dialect. The Apple-at-chun trail runs from Georgia to about 100 miles north or south of the Mason-Dixon Line (the exact end point is a gray area) the Appa-lay-shun trail picks up from there and runs to Maine.

[Gambit McCrae]

I could very well be wrong, hah, I just think it personally rolls off the tongue better.

I see, so what is convenient for you, is how everyone else needs to pronounce it.

[BillyGr]

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/show...oahs-July-9-17

Even shows up in other posts at the same time

Of course, there is also that group from parts of the Capital Region of NY State that would go for calling it Shenendehowa (or just Shen park/river etc. as a nickname)

[Xycon]

I see, so what is convenient for you, is how everyone else needs to pronounce it.

Never said that. Just said it annoys me when its pronounced one way, I also said I don't make a stink about it.

[Malto]

Same thing with "the Sierras" when referring to the Sierra Nevada range. It's a single region, not a plural. At least it's not diminutive, like "Shennies."

Move over on that soapbox.

AMen to this

[JumpMaster Blaster]

Gambit raises a good point: GSMNP is clearly only ONE great smokey mountain, yet we've accepted the plural "smokies." Isn't it time to accept The Shennies as well?

(Sorry, Gambit, not ok with Shannies, although I do see your point. My regional dialect makes no distinction between "pen" and "pin" so "Shennies" and "Shannies" is probably similar enough as well, and "Shennies" retains original spelling.)


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Well, there is the Great Smoky Mountains Nat'l Park, so in essence more than one mountain in the area, whereas it's the Shenandoah Nat'l Park, not the Shenandoah Mountains Nat'l Park. No plural. The Smokies is a chain, a region, a sub-range of the Blue Ridge Mountains which is a subset of the Appalachian Mountains., whereas there's no such comparable term for the Virginia area.

"The geological definition of the Blue Ridge province extends westward to the Ridge and Valley area, encompassing the Great Smoky Mountains, the Great Balsams, the Roans, the Blacks, the Brushy Mountains (a "spur" of the Blue Ridge) and other mountain ranges."

Note there is no mention of "the Shenandoahs". Yes to Smokys/Smokies, no to Shennies.

[Gambit McCrae]

Guess I'm headed to the Roanies this weekend.

[rafe]

"Y'all" isn't a word either, but maybe it should be. English is fluid. Go read Chaucer, see if you can make out what he as saying.

[Starchild]

Here we have the 'gunk's' which sometimes is capitalized, other times not because it's from the end of the word Shawangunk (Ridge). Not to mention the Dacks/'dacks (Adirondacks) and the Cats (Catskills).

It's just the way to refer to the mountains, It's like how we get trail names, and if they don't get a cute name they feel bad and other mountains make fun of them.

[chknfngrs]

Yall is a ward

[Sarcasm the elf]

Ain't, Ain't a word.

[rocketsocks]

.........taint?

[Skyline]

though technically you are correct, i have to say i cringe more when someone needs to point something like this out for the 10,000th time than i do when someone says it "wrong."

in a more abstract sense, names of places are simply what people call a thing. over time, what once was called one thing may become called something else. in 100 years maybe they will be known as the plural form you so vehemently dislike. maybe that will become their "correct" name. to that i ask you- so what?

You mean like Neel Gap vs. Neels Gap?

[Skyline]

"Y'all" isn't a word either, but maybe it should be. English is fluid. Go read Chaucer, see if you can make out what he as saying.

Y'all is a word. Well, at least a proper contraction.

[saltysack]

"Y'all" isn't a word either, but maybe it should be. English is fluid. Go read Chaucer, see if you can make out what he as saying.

It's in the Urban Dictionary!! It must be real!!!


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[tdoczi]

You mean like Neel Gap vs. Neels Gap?

dont know enough about it, but if enough people start referring to springer mountain as "big mikey" for some reason, one day big mikey its name will be.

that these things sometimes occur as accidents doesnt make them less valid.

as for people call them the "shenandoahs" maybe if the mountain range in shenandoah national park actually had a name anyone knew, they wouldnt do that.

[Tuckahoe]

as for people call them the "shenandoahs" maybe if the mountain range in shenandoah national park actually had a name anyone knew, they wouldnt do that.

Oh, you mean the Blue Ridge Mountains?

[Odd Man Out]

Ever hike down to Sockdolager Falls in the Grand Canyon (note my shallow attempt to make this hiking related?). There is a good word that was widely used in the 19th century but has now become obscure.