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    Default New Budweiser aluminum bottles

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    Here are some photos of stoves I've been working on using the new Budweiser aluminum bottles. Not perfect yet, but they make a beautiful, sturdy stove!
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    I like the one with the spiral cuts

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    i tried it with those bottles a few months ago and found that it took to long for the fuel to get to peek temp. and besides the aluminum is much heavier than a regular beer cans....

    thats what i found at least....
    Where are you going, Where have you been...???

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyjob
    i tried it with those bottles a few months ago and found that it took to long for the fuel to get to peek temp. and besides the aluminum is much heavier than a regular beer cans....

    thats what i found at least....
    So far with my tests, all the stoves pictured will boil 2 cups in 4 1/2 to 6 1/2 minutes with @ .6 oz. alcohol. As to the weight of the aluminum, all came in at about .8 to .9 oz. Heavy, yes but for a do-it-yourselfer concerned about durability, they seem pretty tough. I plan on doing some field tests, though. Maybe I'll run over one with the truck, just for grins.
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    bet the heavier aluminum will allow it to burn more fun fuels, like liter fluid

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    Quote Originally Posted by betic4lyf
    bet the heavier aluminum will allow it to burn more fun fuels, like liter fluid
    Yes, I tried that, too, and it works about as effecient as denatured. It soots up your stove, though.
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    i bet whitegas/coleman/whatever, would work well to

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    White gas or anything similar would be very dangerous in a stove designed for alcohol.

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    obviously not a pyro...

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    Quote Originally Posted by betic4lyf
    obviously not a pyro...
    Well, but He's right. I wouldn't want to have to change my trailname from " Skidsteer " to " Skinseared "
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    I experimented with the Bud bottles, too. I found the best use for them to be a quick water boiler. I use it in conjunction with my pepsi can stove, I have a tin can with the bottom and top cut out and place the bud bottle inside this on the stove. The heat rises up through the can like a chimney and gives maximum heating surface up the sides of the bottle. I have a bit of clothes hanger bent around the top for a handle. Works fast, similar to the volcano waer heaters from England.
    What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoDavid
    I experimented with the Bud bottles, too. I found the best use for them to be a quick water boiler. I use it in conjunction with my pepsi can stove, I have a tin can with the bottom and top cut out and place the bud bottle inside this on the stove. The heat rises up through the can like a chimney and gives maximum heating surface up the sides of the bottle. I have a bit of clothes hanger bent around the top for a handle. Works fast, similar to the volcano waer heaters from England.
    Can you, if convenient, post some pictures of this? Thanks.
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    i like this idea....it may be just what i need. my pepsi can stove finally bit the dust after using yellow HEAT for prolonged periods of time on trail. the metal seemed to thin out due to excessive temps...a theory any ways...it just bent, but i continued to use it for a month. the thicker metal may just be the trick.

    i usually cook 2 or 3 times a day....including the coffee or hot choc, even in spring/summer...if friends are around, they usually want coffee too so that may make it 4-5 times a day ...my guess above average use

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    The beer is really cold and goes down so smoooth, can not wait to the hot climb up Kilington this summer then going into the restaurant and drink about a dozen of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burn
    i like this idea....it may be just what i need. my pepsi can stove finally bit the dust after using yellow HEAT for prolonged periods of time on trail. the metal seemed to thin out due to excessive temps...a theory any ways...it just bent, but i continued to use it for a month. the thicker metal may just be the trick.

    i usually cook 2 or 3 times a day....including the coffee or hot choc, even in spring/summer...if friends are around, they usually want coffee too so that may make it 4-5 times a day ...my guess above average use
    So far they seem to be more effecient than pepsi can stoves but less effecient than Ion or cat stoves. The big advantage of this material is, in my opinion, the possible durability. If that is important to you, you might want to play around with them. Good luck and please share you experiences. It will help us all.
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    What happens when you use white gas in an alcohol stove? Does it just overheat and melt the metal? I had a wedding tin stove melt with one of my designs and another exploded, but both were using alcohol.

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    Fireball, Fireball, Fireball!
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    Sleepin by the river just like he usually done
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    Call all he wanta but he can't call me..."
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    Alligator,

    You know that post is trouble. I must have 25 alkie stoves at home in my gear box and something like that is only going to make me rush home, dump a few ounces of Coleman into one, and fire it up.

    Actually, my fireworks cache is starting to get low. This might be just the way to celebrate the New Year...

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    In all seriousness, I don't recommend it at all.
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    BUT if you must, use long wooden matches, an eye dropper, and start small.

    And since one of your alky stoves exploded, consider a blast shield too!
    "Sleepy alligator in the noonday sun
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    Oh, I must. As soon as I dig up my blast shield, it's go time.

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