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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Tarlin
    Geez, Coyle don't you know ANY history?

    The Shot Heard Round the World goes back to 19 April 1775, and refers to a skirmish at Concord Bridge, just west of Boston. .....!!
    Geez, BJ, don't you know anything. Concord Bridge may be "just west of Boston" today, but in 1776 it was a long wagon or horse back ride physically -- ask Paul. And by the 1850s it was a million miles intellectually from Boston.

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    Actually, Weary, we're talking about the spring of '75, not 1776.

    And in regards to "Paul", I'm assuming you;re referrring to Mr. Revere (1734-1818), who got a nifty poem outta the whole affair thanks to Longfellow, but as usual, the recorded story is nonsense.

    Who's your American History teacher....Wookie, maybe?

    Fact is, Revere, did nothing that night. He "warned" maybe five places, and then got bagged by a Britich patrol, most likely due to spending too mch time at too many roadhouses. He's been immortalized for doing nothing.

    The "warning" that night that saved crucial ammunition dumps in Concord and Lexington was done by two other gentlemen, William Dawes and Samuel Prescott.

    Nobody's ever heard of them, maybe cuz H.W. Longfellow never wrote a poem called "The Midnight Ride of William Dawes."

    Dawes did OK and you can see his gravestone in King's Chapel burial ground ( I think Captain Kidd is there, too).

    Prescott completely disappeared from history; I think he died in a British prison in Nova Scotia but you might have to check on that.

    Anyway, Weary, I'll defer to you when talking about the events of the last quarter of the eighteenth century.

    It's different for me..... after all, I wasn't there.

    Regards.....J.T.

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    This is what happened to John Rambo... and remember what the outcome was.
    Downunda

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    The outcome was a whole lotta sh**ty Rambo movies, and now they're allegedly threatening to release Rocky XVI or whatever.

    And your point was............?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dawg
    Sounds like Barney Fife is loose in Erwin,,,, LOL!
    Things get pretty boring in the winter time here in Franklin,If you aint got nothing better to do I'm always lookin for a few good deciples to harrass these local cops here with

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    [quote=Jack Tarlin]MDionne--



    Lastly, note to BooBoo. While I'm genuinely sorry you won't be at Trail Days, the fact remains that if you hadn't broken laws in the first place, you wouldn't be in legal trouble now. Sorry you haven't figured this out yet after 30-odd years on the planet, but the best way not to attract the attention of law enforcement personnel is to not break the law. People that don't want to get in trouble for using illegal recreational drugs can always stop using them, no?[/quote

    Jack I was charged with DUI-D NOT possession or using. I smoked the day before this incident. Since I was NOT under the influence at the time I did not break the law against DUI-D. I had THC metabolites in my UA and that is all the evidence they need because they have no scientifically proven way of determining if someone is high. This is the equivalent of charging a driver with a DUI or DWI (alcohol) if they had a trace amount of alcohol in their system because they had drank the day before.

    There's a HUGE meth infestation in this whole area so you'd think the cops would have better things to do with their time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generoll
    . i think that your social seciurity card even has a statement on it to the effect that it is not to be used as a form of i.d..
    Newer social security cards no longer say that. I noticed your sixty, my fathers card also says 'not for identification purposes'. Strange that they would take the time and effort to eliminate that clause.
    Throwing pearls to swine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Tarlin
    Geez, Coyle don't you know ANY history?

    The Shot Heard Round the World goes back to 19 April 1775, and refers to a skirmish at Concord Bridge, just west of Boston. This event is considered the start of hostilities in the first War of American Independence. The phrase was probably first used by Emerson in his hymn/poem in honor of the events at Concord Bridge; I believe the date of the poem was 1837. In any case, the prase way pre-dated the Polo Grounds and anything to do with that village by the Hudson.

    Geesh, you Yankee fans are too much!!
    Gosh, you know so much about everything Jack, will teach us more??
    Throwing pearls to swine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtnap
    Footslogger: Yeah, It's dirtnap from '03.

    Jack and Nean, I agree with your posts. I could certainly do more to attract less attention.

    Bedouin: I disagree with every point of your analysis of a citizen's basic responsibilities, but I appreciate your opinion.

    My father is a retired Michigan state cop. He taught me to cooperate with good cops, and to have disdain for bad cops who overstep their bounds, abuse their authority, or have no people skills. Being a good cop is all about dealing with people effectively and respectfully.

    It's scary how many people are under the impression that one must carry his or her I.D. around at all times. A driver's license is for driving. If a cop is legitimately investigating a crime, you must cooperate. Having I.D. just makes a cop's job easier. Rather than help a bad cop, I feel civil disobedience is best. If he wants to violate my Constitutional rights, he's going to have to work for it and do his own investigation.

    I don't drive anymore, so I've been thinking of getting rid of all I.D. anyway. If a cop feels like hauling me down to the station and holding me for 24 hours while confirming my identity I'm cool with that. Of course, I would consider a civil suit against all parties involved for false imprisonment and violating the rights of a protected class.

    -dirtnap
    sorry, but that is a stubid idea.
    I do not drive never have drove a car as I am legally blind, BUT I do have a picture state ID
    what are you going to do if your no the trail and fall over dead. No one will know who you are with out some kind of ID on you

    Think you beter rethink that Idea of trashing all forms of ID

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yo-Yo
    . . . what are you going to do if your no the trail and fall over dead. . .
    Well, with or without ID you'd still be dead. Still beats getting hit by a bus.
    Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Tarlin
    Actually, Weary, we're talking about the spring of '75, not 1776.

    And in regards to "Paul", I'm assuming you;re referrring to Mr. Revere (1734-1818), who got a nifty poem outta the whole affair thanks to Longfellow, but as usual, the recorded story is nonsense.

    Who's your American History teacher....Wookie, maybe?

    Fact is, Revere, did nothing that night. He "warned" maybe five places, and then got bagged by a Britich patrol, most likely due to spending too mch time at too many roadhouses. He's been immortalized for doing nothing.

    The "warning" that night that saved crucial ammunition dumps in Concord and Lexington was done by two other gentlemen, William Dawes and Samuel Prescott.

    Nobody's ever heard of them, maybe cuz H.W. Longfellow never wrote a poem called "The Midnight Ride of William Dawes."

    Dawes did OK and you can see his gravestone in King's Chapel burial ground ( I think Captain Kidd is there, too).

    Prescott completely disappeared from history; I think he died in a British prison in Nova Scotia but you might have to check on that.

    Anyway, Weary, I'll defer to you when talking about the events of the last quarter of the eighteenth century.

    It's different for me..... after all, I wasn't there.

    Regards.....J.T.
    Not that this is a history thread but.....Mr. Revere designed and implemented the warning system that got the riders off. He warned Hancock and Sam Adams (who the British really wanted to hang) so they wouldn't be captured by the British. All three of those riders were captured, but the other two escaped. Mr. Revere also went back to get important papers for Hancock so it wouldn't be captured. So....I wouldn't say that Paul Revere did "nothing" that night. He also was involved in the Boston Tea Party and was a "son of liberty".
    I agree that the others didn't get a fair shake because of the poem, and that Paul Revere was a composite of the other riders in the poem. However, you don't have to destroy one to lift the others up.
    "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadesofblue68
    Not that this is a history thread but.....Mr. Revere designed and implemented the warning system that got the riders off. He warned Hancock and Sam Adams (who the British really wanted to hang) so they wouldn't be captured by the British. All three of those riders were captured, but the other two escaped. Mr. Revere also went back to get important papers for Hancock so it wouldn't be captured. So....I wouldn't say that Paul Revere did "nothing" that night. He also was involved in the Boston Tea Party and was a "son of liberty".
    I agree that the others didn't get a fair shake because of the poem, and that Paul Revere was a composite of the other riders in the poem. However, you don't have to destroy one to lift the others up.
    Sounds like Jack Tarlin needs a history lesson himself. You know the old saying, 'teachers never learn'?
    Throwing pearls to swine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Tarlin
    Actually, Weary, we're talking about the spring of '75, not 1776. .
    Well, if you want to get technical. But i doubt if the bridge moved much between the spring of 1775 and 1776

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    Default Story sounds familiar...

    I used to have long hair and wear heavy metal t-shirts, and got harrassed by cops all the time. Since I got my hair buzzed, I haven't had a problem with a police officer. I just act like a marine or something and talk to them like my best buddy. They never want to look in my pockets anymore. They're just normal people, which means they can be as prejudiced and nasty as the average person, or not. Send a letter to the local newspaper...mabye they'll print it. Those kinds of publications sometimes have a vested interest in exposing such things...sometimes not. Stealth mode is the best way to avoid harrassment. I would have refused to let them search me BTW. Lucky you weren't holding....

    "...clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon...."

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    Interesting topic, but as a hiker and looking like a vagrant (when I'm hiking )I sometimes get the feeling what it must be like to be homeless and broke. And getting hasseled by the law goes along with the territory. Forget it get on with your hike/life.
    E-Z---"from sea to shining sea''

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    I too did have a chance to meet Dirtnap. My first impression was also that he was not a serious hiker. His appearance was surely not of a tipical thru-hiker.
    As the saying goes; "If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it must be a duck."
    Everyone has a right to dress in any manner they choose, but looking different can sometimes cause a proplem.
    Happy trails to you, Dirtnap. Hike your own hike, you are an good example of that.
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    I too did have a chance to meet Dirtnap. My first impression was also that he was not a serious hiker. His appearance was surely not of a tipical thru-hiker.
    As the saying goes; "If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it must be a duck."
    two questions...

    1) what does a serious/typical thru-hiker look like?

    2 ) what does dirtnap look like?

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    Every Year on Patriots day, as long as I can remeber, the ride of william dawes is reenacted along his original route, which happens to take him down Massachusetts Avenue in Cambridge MA. When I was a child he used to stop at bar for a drinks along the way. Out in Lexington/Concord, in Minuteman National park/area ther is a monument that marks the spot where Dawes dashed in to the woods after seeing Prescott arrested by the English ahead on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sly
    two questions...

    1) what does a serious/typical thru-hiker look like?

    2 ) what does dirtnap look like?
    sumptin like dis!!!

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    [QUOTE=Chef2000]Every Year on Patriots day, as long as I can remeber, the ride of william dawes is reenacted along his original route, which happens to take him down Massachusetts Avenue in Cambridge MA. When I was a child he used to stop at bar for a drinks along the way./QUOTE]

    Just how old are you, anyway?

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