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    Default 32000 miles and still hiking!

    My dad sent me this article from the newspaper, the Press Democrat, Santa Rosa CA. He thinks I should try to catch up to this guy in miles

    http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/articl...WIRE/806300365
    "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."

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    I read the first line as "In the southern Sierra Nevada, an old man with an untamed bear hikes a familiar trail". I was pretty shocked for a second.

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    Warren Doyle's about 1 AT thru behind.

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    I like hiking, but that's too much walking for me.
    "The aim of science is to make difficult things understandable in a simpler way; the aim of poetry is to state simple things in an incomprehensible way. The two are incompatible."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Baggins View Post
    ... He thinks I should try to catch up to this guy in miles

    http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/articl...WIRE/806300365

    Another 31,000 and change, and I will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odd Thomas View Post
    Warren Doyle's about 1 AT thru behind.
    WD's mostly only knows the words to one song, while Billy Goat has hiked the AT, PCT, and CDT multiple times along with the Florida Trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sly View Post
    WD's mostly only knows the words to one song, while Billy Goat has hiked the AT, PCT, and CDT multiple times along with the Florida Trail.
    And he doesn't use a computer.
    Anything's within walking distance if you've got the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sly View Post
    WD's mostly only knows the words to one song, while Billy Goat has hiked the AT, PCT, and CDT multiple times along with the Florida Trail.
    My song list also includes:

    John Muir Trail (twice)
    Wonderland Trail
    Pennine Way
    Long Trail (five times)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sly View Post
    WD's mostly only knows the words to one song, while Billy Goat has hiked the AT, PCT, and CDT multiple times along with the Florida Trail.
    so. he has the time and money. it's just walking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Wolf View Post
    so. he has the time and money. it's just walking

    Yeah, yeah, like I said, just yanking WD's chain. Bad move on my part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warren doyle View Post
    My song list also includes:

    John Muir Trail (twice)
    Wonderland Trail
    Pennine Way
    Long Trail (five times)
    Why haven't you learned the lyrics to the PCT or CDT?
    Anything's within walking distance if you've got the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Wolf View Post
    so. he has the time and money. it's just walking
    Sacrilege!

    If I had $1,000,000, I'd buy a new butt. Mine has a crack in it.

    Personally, if I had the time and money, I'd probably rarely hke the same trail twice. There are too many trails out there that I want to hike. My top 5 includes;

    1. Wonderland Trail
    2. CDT through Wind River Range and The Bob
    3. Long Trail north of Killington
    4. Southern half of Northville Placid Trail (walked northern half already)
    5. Tahoe Rim
    6. Cohoes Trail
    7. International AT in Quebec
    8. PCT
    9. The 400 miles of the Colorado Trail I haven't hiked


    OK, so that's more than 5.
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    I can see both points of view -- hiking the same trail over, or hiking a new trail when possible. I've done parts of the AT several times over, mostly in the Whites.

    This year, based on the 2nd option above, I've decided to hike a bit of PCT. But unfortunately, California is on fire. Kind of a bummer.

    So I've been kicking myself lately, because you know, when all is said and done, I'd probably be as happy hiking the 100-mile wilderness for a second time. The last time was a long time ago, and it was simply... phenomenal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Train View Post
    Why haven't you learned the lyrics to the PCT or CDT?
    Long distance hiking is only one part of my life.
    Being a parent, husband, son and sole breadwinner are more important parts.
    Also important to me is being a 9-11 month gainfully employed educator.
    I have had no desire to do the PCT/CDT simply because I would consider it a selfish act considering the other roles that I play.
    Perhaps if my adult children or wife want to do either the PCT/CDT in the future, I would be willing to accompany them if they so desired.
    I like my green and moist pilgrimage route and I need only one holy mountain to walk towards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warren doyle View Post
    Long distance hiking is only one part of my life.
    Being a parent, husband, son and sole breadwinner are more important parts.
    Also important to me is being a 9-11 month gainfully employed educator.
    I have had no desire to do the PCT/CDT simply because I would consider it a selfish act considering the other roles that I play.
    Perhaps if my adult children or wife want to do either the PCT/CDT in the future, I would be willing to accompany them if they so desired.
    I like my green and moist pilgrimage route and I need only one holy mountain to walk towards.
    I don't understand. Can you elaborate on your role at home. What is the difference between doing your circle for 4 months or hiking the PCT for 4 months?

    Not trying to be a jerk, just geniunely curious.
    Anything's within walking distance if you've got the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Train View Post
    I don't understand. Can you elaborate on your role at home. What is the difference between doing your circle for 4 months or hiking the PCT for 4 months?

    Not trying to be a jerk, just geniunely curious.
    A good curious question.

    The only time I have done a solo thru-hike (AT) or end-to-end hike(LT) was when I was single and still a graduate student.

    All my other AT thru-hikes (i.e., 7 expeditions) represented the most productive endeavors I could do as a social-change educator. The purpose of doing these hikes were more for others than myself.

    My six section hikes (about 2-5 weeks a year for the last 35 years) have been planned around the other priorities in my life. I have neither lost a job nor have given up a job to hike the trail.

    There will come a time when someone will walk the entire trail more times than me; however, they won't be simultaneously fulfilling the roles of husband, father, son and breadwinner during the majority of their treks.

    I have no desire to hike another long distance trail just for myself. Therefore, no PCT or CDT in my future and no regrets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warren doyle View Post
    There will come a time when someone will walk the entire trail more times than me; however, they won't be simultaneously fulfilling the roles of husband, father, son and breadwinner during the majority of their treks.
    Perhaps they will. Perhaps they will be fulfilling even greater responsibilities. Who's to know?

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    Cool article, even better story. Nice to read about a lifelong backpacker with a truly unique story!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Baggins View Post
    My dad sent me this article from the newspaper, the Press Democrat, Santa Rosa CA. He thinks I should try to catch up to this guy in miles

    http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/articl...WIRE/806300365
    Thanks for posting that, just spotted it! Good to see that 'Billy Goat' is still pickin' 'em up and puttin' 'em down! I'm wondering what he looks like now. I met up with him some years ago on the PCT, though only knew him as George and not 'Billy Goat'. I was nearing the end of a thru hike and approaching Stehekin when a hiker on the trail heading the opposite way stopped and asked "How the hell did you get ahead of me when you were still in Stehekin when I left?!" I didn't know what he was on about and told him I had never been in Stehekin. He said well he was sure he had just spoken to me there and gave me a look like he didn't believe me and carried on, muttering something about me having a double.
    I carried on my way and some hours later was approaching the trailhead turn off to Stehekin where there were a couple of other hikers standing around. One looked up and called out "How's it goin' George?"
    This was pretty weird - not only did I apparently have a double, but he had the same name as me!
    I eventually met up with George in Stehekin. He was talking to a ranger at the time. Ranger looked up and commented "Hey! You guys could be brothers!"
    I remember thinking at the time that I thought I was better looking - but being 'doubles' he was likely thinking the same!
    We both made our ways from Stehekin separately as we both liked hiking alone, but we ended up in Manning Park for a couple of days and went half shares together on a room in the lodge there for a bit of trail end luxury. He was still employed by the railroads at that time, but only worked part of the year and spent the rest wandering.
    He was a great guy and I enjoyed his company. I'd often wondered what had become of him, so it was a buzz to read that article.
    Thanks again!

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