UnderArmour? Come ON guys!

[Wise Old Owl]

1. I will try very hard to not post in the womens area.
2. UA is overpriced polypro with silver nitrate garbage....!
3. Folks we wear stuff undergarments that are comfortable.
4. I need your help, please read on!

Here is the deal, EMS put a name on a Canadian product that was inexspensive and it WORKS! in winter it's 100 percent polypropelene. in other words, no cotton - at all.

They called it Bergalene, - yea it never caught on because it was an early introduction to Polypro and it works. Why you might ask Because fiber that is smaller than human hair, is going to prevent air from moving near the skin, hense water (sweat) can transport and heat is trapped. When it first came out it was $40 a shirt and within three years you could pick it up for $9 hense they dropped it, When you can work with the markups of UA with open weaves that arn't as good as they are not fuzzy. Well now you understand.

Here is the original weave-

Does anyone know where to find this product now?

[skinewmexico]

I don't know where to find that, but it shocks me that UA picked an existing product, put a giant price on it, and marketed it as a socially elite product for frustrated high school athletes. And it worked, because we're all label wh*res. Rant off.

[Summit]

I admit I was an early buyer and own a couple of UA Ts. My last polypro T that I bought came from REI, long sleeve and I think I paid around $15 for it on sale. My next ones will probably be Walmart's at $9 or so. But to answer your question, WOO, no I've never seen or heard of that product.l

[Engine]

I hike in a pair of UA shorts, but not the compression shorts just regular running shorts. I love them both for fit and the simple fact that they have normal side pockets which are hard to find in running shorts. I do use compression under-shorts sometimes and they work, it's not hype, but I buy those from WalMart for around $7.00, not $35.00 from UA.

[JAK]

If it's no wool, IT'S CRAP!
If it's no cheap, IT'S HYPE!

[Christus Cowboy]

I admit I was an early buyer and own a couple of UA Ts. My last polypro T that I bought came from REI, long sleeve and I think I paid around $15 for it on sale. My next ones will probably be Walmart's at $9 or so. But to answer your question, WOO, no I've never seen or heard of that product.l

I have never heard of this product either but it sounds like it would be quite functional in the backcountry.... I have polypro long underwear that I use and have found them to be warm even when wet and durable as well.... Ironically, I got mine at a military surplus store for $10.00 for both the top and bottom. After extended hikes however, sometimes polyprop retains the musk smell even after it is has been washed. I have been able to minimize this by powdering it down with baking soda and letting it air out a couple of days prior to dropping it in the washer machine. I do agree that UA is overpriced especially when one considers the comparable alternatives that are out there.....

[kanga]

techwick?

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[Reid]

Has anyone tried the walmart polys? I'd be curious to get one just for the fact that it's cheaper.

[Christus Cowboy]

Has anyone tried the walmart polys? I'd be curious to get one just for the fact that it's cheaper.

Reid.... I recently went on a 55 mile circuit loop in the Nantahala National Forest in the first week of April where Summit and I experienced everything from warmer temps to two days with snow.... On that trip I used the "Rocky" brand polys as a base layer that I purchased from Walmart and they worked just fine for me.

[Two Tents]

I have the Wally World Poly pro's they are fine for the price. ---Two Tents

[modiyooch]

I like my UA for backpacking and running; hot or cold. I look for discounts, but alot of times I do pay the price. And since my skin is very sensitive, and this product works for me; I'm not going to switch.

[Manwich]

I like my UA for backpacking and running; hot or cold. I look for discounts, but alot of times I do pay the price. And since my skin is very sensitive, and this product works for me; I'm not going to switch.

Same. HYOH. Even if some grump thinks you're a name-brand whore or a "frustrated high school athlete" (***??)

[Donnie]

After a quick Google search, it appears that it is no longer as cheap as you remember it to be. It seems as though they changed the name to "Techwick performance long underwear."


Check it out here:
http://www.ems.com/catalog/bergelene.jsp

[ki0eh]

I got a UA long sleeve wicking shirt about 1.5 years ago and LOVED it. So I said I'd like more like it.

So I got 2 more UA shirts and a Wal-Mart camo wicking shirt as well (the latter from my mother-in-law) for Xmas.

Both of the UA shirts were too tight and seemingly shrank in the wash. (Synthetic fiber? Shrank?? ***???) The Wal-Mart shirt didn't shrink and remains relatively comfortable, just not as good as the old UA.

I don't have the labels here at the 'puter to give more details, but I tried to find the original UA shirt that I liked and couldn't. I'd rather not wear Wal-Mart camo in all situations either.

Any thoughts for wicking long sleeve layer that's fit to wear visibly (fleece off when walking), but not clingy form fitting to every bulge, and not camo?

[fiddlehead]

They called it Bergalene, - yea it never caught on because it was an early introduction to Polypro and it works. Why you might ask Because fiber that is smaller than human hair, is going to prevent air from moving near the skin, hense water (sweat) can transport and heat is trapped. When it first came out it was $40 a shirt and within three years you could pick it up for $9 hense they dropped it, When you can work with the markups of UA with open weaves that arn't as good as they are not fuzzy. Well now you understand.


Does anyone know where to find this product now?

Wise Old Owl, I used to sell Bergalene tops. They were very good and i agree, if i could still get them, i would be selling them.

I have an online business selling long underwear and we used to keep up with all the new products. We cannot keep up anymore as they are getting too expensive and we stock everything we sell (meaning we buy it first)

I still sell what i think works: Polypropylene. And some other fabrics that change names every year but are basically two layer with some wool/poly blends.

We checked out Under Armour when it came out. It made me feel clammy and uncomfortable so we never went into it.

But, i agree, the Bergalene that we used to get from the same distributor that got it for EMS was some good stuff. And lighweight. (being in the business, i get to check them all out and it was my favorite)

But when the big decision makers (fabric guys in New York city usually) move on, we have to also as it costs millions of dollars to make fabric in a quantity that is profitable.

I still have a few of the tops and bottoms for my personal use but haven't seen it around in years now.

Perhaps you could luck out on ebay for some???

[Gray Blazer]

Same. HYOH. Even if some grump thinks you're a name-brand whore or a "frustrated high school athlete" (***??)

I get my brand-name stuff when it's on the sale rack. Am I still a ho?

[4eyedbuzzard]

I get my brand-name stuff when it's on the sale rack. Am I still a ho?

I'm guessin' that would make you a cheap ho.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

[skinewmexico]

I'm not a grump or a ho. But UA is still 99% marketing, and 1% product. All hat, and no cows, as we say. Buy the same thing from North Face, and at least you get a lifetime warranty. I am old, so it's probably a generational thing.

[hoz]

Several years ago Wal Mart used to clearance their poly longjohns come spring. I once bought 5 tops and 3 bottoms for 2 bucks a piece. Still have a pair stashed back.

I haven't seen them on sale much lately. I think they ship them back to the warehouse for re distribution next winter.

[hoz]

Oh and UA? I balked the first time I saw the price.