No, we have a whinner.Originally Posted by Lugnut
That's why I go to motels. It's worth the money to me to not have to deal with the children of the trail...no matter what their age is.
Superman's feeling corny today.
next time stay here:
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Rambunny here at Happy Hiker Hollow-We post the facts-not rules-Quiet hours (TV low, quiet voices) after 9:30. Alot of our guests say they appreciate it. I for one wanted sleep when i hit town. We've had wonderful guests ,they have suggested we not call ourselves a Hostel,because they get beds and sleep!
Any time I've had to sleep in any type of communal living space- barracks, dormitory, or whatever- there's ALWAYS one or two that have no respect for anyone else. The guy that plays his stereo loud at 3 am, the bunch that laugh and yell and scream while others are sleeping, you can count on them being there. They are the same kind of people who jump lines that others have waited in for hours and park in handicapped spaces even though nothing is wrong with them. To expect these people to act in any other way is ridiculous, but it took me years to understand this. The bottom line is there are A-holes everywhere that don't care about anything except themselves and they aren't going to change for you or me.
Standing Bear is a Unique place. I can not say that there have never been any "incidents", but on the whole it does seem to take care of itself to a degree. It has the space. The cabin would be recommended for those who who prize a good nights rest most highly. The bunkhouse sleeps 14. It has a wood stove, 4 walls, and mattresses. A good nights rest is nearly certain provided you can deal with snorers. It is just outside the fire pit area where good times will be sure to be had until as late as late as the present company dictates, There are no set quiet hours. On occasion of course there are those that might might need special accommodations to suit there desire to revel and others desire to sleep. Those can and have been arranged in the past and I'm sure will be again in the future. Perhaps the most discerning choice would be to tent in the back yard, depending upon the weather of course. You can partake in all the revelry you wish and retire to a beautiful night under the stars. Rather than cram all the hikers into a confined space, Standing Bear provides enough room to give everybody their own space. Conversely I think it provides hikers of different backgrounds and ideologies to gain a closer understanding of one an other without offending one another. Nothing is forced, nothing is demanded, nothing is expected. As many of you have may have guessed by now, I have had a few cocktails. Those of you that know me know I'm really not this deep. I love love life and think that everybody else should too. If you disagree with me, piss off. I still love you anyway. That's all for now.
Can't argue with that... Wow we can agree on something! How ever its a hostel thing not a thouh hiker thing. I found both newbee Boy Scouts and Middle School Students at Hostels are the same way.
There was an Old Man with a owl,
Who continued to bother and howl;
He sat on a rail, And imbibed bitter ale,
Which refreshed that Old Man and his owl. . WOO <Audio
church/school groups, scouts and bikers don't trash the place or disregard the rules like thru-hikers do. this is a factCan't argue with that... Wow we can agree on something! How ever its a hostel thing not a thouh hiker thing. I found both newbee Boy Scouts and Middle School Students at Hostels are the same way.
gotta agree with LW there. There were at least 3 bikers there, maybe a few more upstairs. They were only interested in getting a good nights rest and moving on. Kinda the whole point of the hostel no? One of them got driven outside around midnight also. Gives us hikers a bad name. On another note, a hiker had left his wallet in the bathroom and it disappeared. At that point I heard one of the bikers say, "We better make sure to keep our stuff close here". So their impression of hikers is that they are thieves as well as disrespectful, inconsiderate A-holes. Sad part is that it is true. A small percentage I'm sure, but still true.
The bad apples must drop out before Vermont. We had no problems with noise or theft. However, we have a No Alcohol policy. Too bad, because most drinkers are completely responsible. The few who go overboard make life miserable for everyone else.
Interesting thoughts...
Just curious here..... could the reason why such inconsiderate individuals are "everywhere" is because there's a consistent absence of meaningful consequences?
Be on the alert, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done in love..... 1 Corinthians 16:13-14
Why?
Miles and money weed out many NOBOs; mountains weed out many SOBOs. Any remaining bad apples are turned into Woodchuck Draft Cider.
Years ago, when completion weren't as high as they are today, inconsiderate campers never made it out of Georgia, because hikers slept in shelters. Hikers didn't put up with nonsense then and weren't tenting or hammocking.
Snorers left the trail due to low mileage production brought on by insomnia and dust created by hikers who slept well.
No. Adults don't need consequences, they do things because they should. Immature, self-centered people have to have the boundaries defined for them. An adult thinks "People are sleeping, maybe I should try to be quiet." The type of people we are discussing don't consider others in their reasoning, if there is any reasoning in their heads. They just do what feels good to them at the time, and are often surprised to learn they've had a negative impact on anyone else, mainly because they DON'T consider other people.
Most people are adults, thank God. It's that other 5% that often makes an otherwise pleasurable experience unbearable.
Very well written! Many people feel that rules and even the law doesn't apply to them and when the rules are enforced, they decide they need to confront others and agrue endlessly. What a waste of time and emotions for everyone but those who do not follow the common sense of treating others as you wish to be treated.
"I told my Ma's and Pa's I was coming to them mountains and they acted as if they was gutshot. Ma, I sez's, them mountains is the marrow of the world and by God, I was right". Del Gue
The Place should hire a caretaker or shut down for the thruhiker season. Too many idiots ruin it for the good guys. Charge $15, hire someone and things would quickly change.
more so this year
I had a similar experience with a rowdy bunch of scouts that I've already posted on here. My only wish is that a representative of The Place subscribes to WB to see all of the complaints. Because I couldn't find one in the building or at the church the next day.
"A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and gets to bed at night, and in between he does what he wants to do."
-Bob Dylan
Why so that The Place can be closed down? This kind of Whining has shut down hiker services over the years over the entire lenght of the trail. If you don't like the services provided, quite cheaply I might add, please please go somewhere else and shut up.
I think you could've been a little more civil with that. Your age isn't posted so who am I to judge?
I am very grateful for The Place, I can't stress that enough, especially for their very low price. I hardly think if someone read my comment or others like it they would stop going to The Place. I also find it hard to believe that if a representative of The Place read it, they would think "well that's all she wrote. There's too many complaints of noise, so it's time to close down." The logical thing to do would be to address the issue somehow that would bring the greatest amount of good to the greatest amount of people.
It wouldn't cost anything to post quiet hours. If they are not respected and there are complaints, then the offender could be banned. Word would get around that the rules are taken seriously, and people would be quiet. So the Place doesn't have to raise their price, and everyone can get some sleep.
"A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and gets to bed at night, and in between he does what he wants to do."
-Bob Dylan
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