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    How much should I charge, for a free cold shower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mechanical Man View Post
    How much should I charge, for a free cold shower?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austexs View Post
    Two Chickens.
    Well, now that seems a little high for a cold shower. Even a skimpy three day old Food Lion chicken cost about $4.00 or $5.00. I would say a cold shower was worth more like a half dozen large eggs. Maybe a full dozen if you had a hundred feet of black hose up on the roof on a sunny day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOWGLI View Post
    If a hostel owner operates on a "donations accepted" basis, and complain when people don't donate, the fault lies with the owner. Not the hiker. They aren't doing the trail any favors either by enabling people to slide. Fees should be mandatory. Or the hostel owners should quit their whining and just close their doors.
    Any hostel that operates on a "donation" basis is doing so to avoid registering as a hotel. Most of the hostel owners out there are looking to make a couple of bucks, but none of them are getting rich. In fact, the profit margin is so low, that if these places were to register as a business and charge taxes, etc... The price would be much higher and then less people could afford to stay there.

    The "donation" word is like code. They don't require you to pay, but make no mistake - you are being a dirtbag if you don't pay. If you don't like the fact that these places are exploiting a loophole in the law, fine - don't stay there. But don't go into somebody's home, use their hot water, electricity, heat, etc.. and think that its perfectly OK to not leave a dime because they used the word "donation".

    And Lone Wolf is right - there isn't a "free" hostel on the trail.

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    which hostel was listed as free? I'm guessing that the "donation" loophole is more a case of the governing authority looking the other way then it is a real true loophole. Not sure I'd like to test that out, but I suspect that if the authorities wanted to go to the trouble they could either shut you down or make you pay up. Maybe Miss Janet could tell us a bit about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Wolf View Post
    that's BS right there. then the "young folks" should stay in the friggin woods if they ain't got no funds. the ones that always plead poverty are the ones always eatin' pizza and drinkin' beer in towns. they can afford a few bucks in a hiker box
    Nicely said !!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Wolf View Post
    that's BS right there. then the "young folks" should stay in the friggin woods if they ain't got no funds. the ones that always plead poverty are the ones always eatin' pizza and drinkin' beer in towns. they can afford a few bucks in a hiker box
    yep. same kids who have iphones and wear abercrombie and fitch crap in my class but cry poor when they show up to an exam without a $10 calculator. damn kids!!

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    Ah yes, the "entitled" generation. Someone else is supposed to work and pay to insure they get the fun they deserve. I've got no use for someone who would show up and neither work nor pay. I've got a lot of respect for someone who shows up, admits they're short of cash, and asks what they can do to help as a payment. Life isn't free, or fair.

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    you create your own problem If you don't put a minimum donation level.

    5 or 10 dollars forked over beforehand and viola no problem

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    I weeded the garden last night here at the Blue Mountain Dome, but 2 cords of wood still need stacking, and the grass is getting pretty long and needs cutting, anyone want to do work for stay?

    You can have a free cold shower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinewmexico View Post
    Ah yes, the "entitled" generation. Someone else is supposed to work and pay to insure they get the fun they deserve. I've got no use for someone who would show up and neither work nor pay. I've got a lot of respect for someone who shows up, admits they're short of cash, and asks what they can do to help as a payment. Life isn't free, or fair.
    I don't want to work and I don't want to pay my way.... I'm the product of the "It's my right" generation...

    Yes, it didn't matter that there was all kinds of science available indicating that their behavior was going to have long term consiquences, but if they didn't take advantage someone else would, so why not! Creater's of the political correctness, because we can't have losers, failure or hurt feelings, everyone is equal except when it's my turn to cash in... Yup, you older folks sure can pat yourselves on the back for a job well done! Ethic's and morals be damned, you were right because it was your right....

    "Entitled" generation my ass.... Now please hang up and try your call again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAJA View Post
    I don't want to work and I don't want to pay my way.... I'm the product of the "It's my right" generation...

    Yes, it didn't matter that there was all kinds of science available indicating that their behavior was going to have long term consiquences, but if they didn't take advantage someone else would, so why not! Creater's of the political correctness, because we can't have losers, failure or hurt feelings, everyone is equal except when it's my turn to cash in... Yup, you older folks sure can pat yourselves on the back for a job well done! Ethic's and morals be damned, you were right because it was your right....

    "Entitled" generation my ass.... Now please hang up and try your call again...
    Seems to be getting worse. Not better. That was kinda my point, although I wasn't explicit. The freeloading will continue. Enabled by the way the hostel owners practice, and by the way people fail to parent these days. I have little sympathy for hostel owners who permit this to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austexs View Post
    Two Chickens.
    and a fried egg

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAJA View Post
    I don't want to work and I don't want to pay my way.... I'm the product of the "It's my right" generation...

    Yes, it didn't matter that there was all kinds of science available indicating that their behavior was going to have long term consiquences, but if they didn't take advantage someone else would, so why not! Creater's of the political correctness, because we can't have losers, failure or hurt feelings, everyone is equal except when it's my turn to cash in... Yup, you older folks sure can pat yourselves on the back for a job well done! Ethic's and morals be damned, you were right because it was your right....

    "Entitled" generation my ass.... Now please hang up and try your call again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jersey joe View Post
    . . .There are plenty of people, young folks especially, that don't have the funds and a free place to stay is a great thing. The ones with more money will hopefully make up for them by donating extra. . .
    One might suggest that those young folks earn a little more money before jumping on the trail and expecting others to subsidize their hikes. And as far as free places to stay, there's almost always a free one right outside of town, in their tents.

    As for Hostels that advertise themselves as "free," there are two south of Harpers Ferry that I know of where the word is used in the Thru-hikers Handbook (2009). One is Woods Hole just south of Pearisburg. They are listed as "free, donations accepted." The other is the Blackburn A.T. Center south of Harpers Ferry. Blackburn is listed as "open to hikers free of charge, donations are appreciated."

    I suppose it could be said that the reverse is also true -- not giving a donation is not appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austexs View Post
    Two Chickens.
    IS that 2 live chickens or 2 dead chickens? I'd expect hot water and a towel for even 1 live chicken.

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    I feel bad cuz I stayed there 2 nites and didn't donate, + ate more than my share of ice cream bars. Anyone know how to get hold of the guy to make things right? It was in PA, 3 miles N of Rausch gap. Not listed on any modern guides that I see. Would gladly try to make up for my a&*holery the first time thru.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belew View Post
    IS that 2 live chickens or 2 dead chickens? I'd expect hot water and a towel for even 1 live chicken.
    I was thinkin' live.

    But, It doesn't really matter. Nobody is gonna pay for a cold shower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Toro '94 View Post
    I feel bad cuz I stayed there 2 nites and didn't donate, + ate more than my share of ice cream bars. Anyone know how to get hold of the guy to make things right? It was in PA, 3 miles N of Rausch gap. Not listed on any modern guides that I see. Would gladly try to make up for my a&*holery the first time thru.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbyw View Post
    I just got off the trail and I had a great time. I'm hoping to work during the summer and go back out and catch hikers in the fall. On another note: I wanted to make sure everyone is aware that some hostels think that when they put the words "free" AND "donations accepted" into all the guidebooks and on their signs that this means "every single person needs to work to donate money to stay here, or we are telling you we are openly going to you to the hikers behind you".

    This is seriously ****ed up and I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see one hostel owner do it more than once. I'm not going to name names, but hopefully the right people catch wind of this and straighten the **** up... Just be careful guys!
    You must of missed the asterisk after the word "free", and the small print at the bottem.

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