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I didn't need the girls myspace page. That kinda brought it home for me.
There are clear color differences and size differences, other than that a clear lack of a collar. Smaller than a German Shepard and red nape color in the shoulders for some of the Coyotes. They make absolutely no noise when moving though the bush or woods. Dogs just crash around and lack skills.
There was an Old Man with a owl,
Who continued to bother and howl;
He sat on a rail, And imbibed bitter ale,
Which refreshed that Old Man and his owl. . WOO <Audio
Very confusing behavior by these Coyotes. The ones I've seen in the US were way too skittish to do something like this. Maybe there's a inverse relationship going on here.
American people: mean, aggressive
American coyotes: shy, retiring
Canadian People: quiet, polite
Canadian coyotes: violent, aggressive
Here's more details:
Young folk singer dead after attack by coyotes in Nova Scotia park
By Alison Auld (CP) – 21 minutes ago
HALIFAX, N.S. — A young Canadian folk singer who had just set off on a solo tour to boost a promising musical career died Wednesday after being mauled by two coyotes in what is believed to be one of the country's first fatal attacks by the animals.
Taylor Mitchell was hiking alone in the Cape Breton Highlands National Park on Tuesday afternoon when a pair of coyotes attacked her, leaving her critically injured with bite wounds covering most of her body.
The 19-year-old singer's screams for help were heard by at least two other hikers, who rushed to the Skyline Trail and called 911 at around 3 p.m. as the animals continued their brutal attack on the young Toronto woman.
Mitchell, who was on a three-week tour of the region to promote her debut CD, was to play in Sydney, N.S., on Wednesday night when she decided to go for a hike in the scenic park.
"She loved going into the woods and hiking," Lisa Weitz, her manager in Toronto, said through tears. "She was absolutely pumped about her first tour on the East Coast and to take her songwriting craft to new audiences...
"She just had a wonderful joy of life and sharing music."
Mitchell, who had about a dozen concert dates in the Maritimes, was rushed to a local hospital and then airlifted to Halifax. She died at about 3:30 a.m. Wednesday, police said.
Paul Maynard of Emergency Health Services said she was already in critical condition when paramedics arrived on the scene and was bleeding heavily from multiple bite wounds.
"She was losing a considerable amount of blood from the wounds," he said.
"This was really out of the ordinary - the first I've heard of something like this."
RCMP Sgt. Brigdit Leger said officers shot one of the two animals, apparently wounding it, but both managed to get away.
An official with Parks Canada said they barricaded the entrance to the trail where Mitchell was attacked and were trying to find the animals to determine what prompted such an unusual attack.
Helene Robichaud, the park's superintendent, said there have been a handful of reports of aggressive coyotes over the last 15 years, but they have not seen any attacks on people.
"There's been some reports of aggressive animals, so it's not unknown," she said. "But we certainly never have had anything so dramatic and tragic."
Officials shot a coyote late Tuesday, but Robichaud doubted that it was one of the two involved in the attack.
The provincial Natural Resources Department said there is no other record of a fatal coyote attack on a human in Nova Scotia since the animals were first discovered in the province in the '70s.
In 2003, a teenage girl was bitten on the arm by a coyote while walking on the same trail as Mitchell, said Germaine LeMoine of Parks Canada. The girl's parents managed to scare the animal away.
Biologists said it's unlikely the coyotes involved had contracted rabies or were protecting young animals.
Bob Bancroft, a Nova Scotia wildlife biologist, said coyotes shy away from humans. But not all animals - particularly young, inexperienced coyotes in parks - view humans as predators.
"This is probably just a couple of coyotes that saw something vulnerable and went for it," he said. "It's horrible. It's not something you would expect at all."
Coyotes in the region are larger and behave somewhat differently than their counterparts in Western Canada, he said. Large males in Nova Scotia can weigh up to 60 pounds.
Simon Gadbois, a professor at Dalhousie University who studies animal behaviour, said hikers should always be vigilant and aware of their surroundings.
Should a hiker unintentionally surprise a coyote or other animal, Gadbois has simple, potentially life-saving advice: Never act like prey."The worst thing you can do is start running away," he said. "Wave your arms, shout, just show that you mean business basically and most animals will think twice."
Ethel Merry, who manages a motel 10 kilometres from the park in Cheticamp, said people in the area have been seeing more coyotes in the last three years and are calling for controls on their numbers.
Merry said she and her family have seen packs of up to seven coyotes wandering around people's yards and attacking pets.
"I'm not surprised at all that this happened," she said. "The coyotes are all around us. ... I am so afraid to walk my road."
Mitchell, who graduated from the Etobicoke School of the Arts, had recently been nominated for a Canadian Folk Music Award and was being roundly praised for her songwriting talent.
Mitchell's MySpace site shows the singer standing in the woods with her guitar and a suitcase at her side, along with the cover photo of her album, "For Your Consideration."
Weitz said the singer had just gotten her licence and a new car, which she loaded with her CDs before setting off alone on the tour.
"She was a beautiful, dynamic, young, talented woman and we're all so saddened and shocked," Weitz said.
"She was such a young and old soul at the same time. She just knew how to beautifully craft a song."
Singer Suzie Vinnick met the performer about three years ago and acted as a mentor, teaching her guitar as Mitchell played bars in Ontario and started to garner attention.
"She was really keen and hungry in a really positive way," she said in an interview. "She was a great lyricist and held a lot of promise. I mean, she was at it for two years and already managed to get a Canadian Folk Music nomination."
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That was good...
Perhaps the person has a dehydrated ER with a surgical center (just add water), too!
Butterflies fart around your stoves AND around coyotes ?!?!?
Are butterfly farts rainbow colored? That would be pretty cool.
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Applies to Coyotes Too......
Ex-cop goes into a gun store. He tells the salesman he's going to walk the entire Appalachain Trail. He needs to know what kind of handgun he should carry in case he runs into a bear.
The salesman says, "Carry any handgun you want. But if you're going to shoot a bear with it, be sure to grind off the front sight."
The former cop looks perplexed. "Why should I grind off the front sight?"
"That way it won't hurt so bad when the bear takes it away and shoves it up your ass."
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I wonder if these are coywolves: coyote/wolf hybrids...I read about this some time ago and apparently they are bigger than coyotes and much more aggressive. I don't know if the range of the coywolf extends up that far but I know it's up there in the north eastern area of the US.
Take almost nothing I say seriously--if it seems to make no sense what so ever it's probably meant as a joke....but do treat your water!
Another good reason guns should be legal.
Another good reason dogs should be allowed in the back country and parks.
Another good reason that carryn a big first aid kit wont do no good. No microscopes included to stich together shredded arteries .
Sucks but thats nature. People are a useful sorce of food also. Sorry to the family.
Coyotes
A fellow hiker was warning me about Coyotes when he was relating to me how he climbed a tree to avoid coyotes he thought were close by. I laughed at him saying I wouldn't be worried about a few dogs. Seems like I may have been wrong.
Downunda
Funny!
there a shelter in northern VA that alot of hikers have spent the night on top of because of the pack of coyotes the run there
Would you be offended if I told you to
TAKE A HIKE!
CowHead
"If at first you don't succeed......Skydiving is not for you" Zen Isms
I once was lost, then I hike the trail
Have had them come into camp, they check out the tent and sniff around, was never concerned - still aint concerned.
Still more worried about the crack heads and drunk drivers.
Bad logic
Geez, I dunno why this is a good argument to allow dogs in National Parks, Wrongway.
I mean, this is sort of a first. Anyone else out there heard about someone getting killed by a coyote?
On the other hand, something like 20 Americans a year get killed by dogs, and it's frequently their own pet (or their parent's pet) doing the killing.
In short, one has a MUCH greater chance of getting offed by their dad's or their neighbor's dog than one does by a random coyote attack, so no.....this is NOT a good argument for letting dogs into National Parks.
(I could also say something about Wrongway's comment about this being another good reason for guns to be legal, etc. Um, dunno where you live, but where I am, they ARE perfectly legal, assuming one is willing to obey the various rules and regulations regarding their ownership and use).
They may be legal where you LIVE, but not always where you walk (hike). You shoulda seen the ranger at the gate at SNP this spring when my pistol had slid out from under the seat. I thought was going to crap his pants!
So true so true but very few of them or on the trail (I hope)
Would you be offended if I told you to
TAKE A HIKE!
CowHead
"If at first you don't succeed......Skydiving is not for you" Zen Isms
I once was lost, then I hike the trail
Hey, don't get me wrong, I don't want this to turn into another gun thread.
All I'm saying is that stories and statistics can be misleading, i.e. I don't think that there's this big threat from homicidal coyotes we all of a sudden need to be worrying about.
Sorta like the fact that skateboarding kills more people in America every single year than waterboarding has killed in a generation, but not too many newspapers are doing stories about the evils of skateboarding.
Some things that are spoken of as horrible, omniprescent threats aren't really that statistically significant; it's all a matter of how they get reported.
Here's another article posted on another forum: http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/a...y-coyotes?bn=1
I think it's a matter of time before coyotes start seeing humans as a viable food source. It's already happening with pets. A friend just lost his dog to coyotes in his own backyard (in Tennessee) when he let it out to pee.
Right now, the US deer population is bigger than ever....the coyote population is growing as a result...what's gonna happen as, when a deer population downturn comes, via natural disease or whatever....we'll have a crowd of coyotes looking for a new food source...and we'll look mighty tasty to them.
As an aside, I just saw my first coyote last Sunday, on Va. 603 right near the AT crossing. About 11 in the morning, he ran across the road ahead of my truck.
Poodles ain't people.
The coyote threat is ridiculously exaggerated.
And if more people simply shot them it'd reduce the problem by leaps and bounds.
no pistols in canada anyway
If you find yourself in a fair fight; your tactics suck.
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