WTB: 0 degree down bag

[timmy_toes]

looking to pick one these up, not looking to spend over 120 on it though. Looking for down so it compresses better.
Email me if ya got one for sale at mellowyellow4lyf@gmail.com

Thanks,
Timm

[Chubbs4U]

Good luck...
with 40% off you can get this close to $130

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/mar...colorFamily=01

[EJC]

You can buy a brand new kelty cosmic 0 degree down bag for about that price or less, i just got one for $108 including shipping. Its not the lightest or smallest thing, but with a 15 l compression sack it gets decently small and you can't beat the price.


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[Papa D]

The problem with Kelty and Marmot is that their "0" degree bags really wouldn't be close to comfortable at all at even 10 degrees. The only bags that don't "sandbag" their ratings (pardon the pun) are as follows:

Feathered Friends
Western Mountaineering
Sherpa Mountaineering

[leaftye]

The problem with Kelty and Marmot is that their "0" degree bags really wouldn't be close to comfortable at all at even 10 degrees. The only bags that don't "sandbag" their ratings (pardon the pun) are as follows:

Feathered Friends
Western Mountaineering
Sherpa Mountaineering

That Kelty bag has 42 ounces of down. The WM Kodiak has 30 ounces of down. Kelty would have to screw up their design badly to miss that rating with that much down, or be lying outright about how much down fill there is.

[leaftye]

Oops, I was looking at the synthetic version. The down version has 34 ounces of down, which isn't as much as I'd like to see since they're only using 550 fp down, and probably cheap duck down. That said, they have had this bag EN tested. Here are the results:

EN Comfort Limit: 17°F / -8°C
EN Lower Limit: 4°F / -16°C
EN Extreme Limit: -33°F / -36°C

[Papa D]

Oops, I was looking at the synthetic version. The down version has 34 ounces of down, which isn't as much as I'd like to see since they're only using 550 fp down, and probably cheap duck down. That said, they have had this bag EN tested. Here are the results:

EN Comfort Limit: 17°F / -8°C
EN Lower Limit: 4°F / -16°C
EN Extreme Limit: -33°F / -36°C

hmmmm - you'd flat out DIE at the lower limit in the Marmot bag - I've actually slept in my Sherpa -15 degree bag AT -15 degrees - yes, slept for like 7 hours - that is awesome at that sort of ambient temperature

[leaftye]

hmmmm - you'd flat out DIE at the lower limit in the Marmot bag - I've actually slept in my Sherpa -15 degree bag AT -15 degrees - yes, slept for like 7 hours - that is awesome at that sort of ambient temperature

So are you saying that Kelty has lied about getting their bag EN tested, that the lab lied about the rating the issued for this bag, or that Kelty has lied about the rating that was issued for this bag by the lab?

Btw, I don't see that Sherpa Mountaineering makes any sleeping bags. I see that Vaude makes two bags named the Sherpa, but neither are -15°F bags.

[EJC]

The problem with Kelty and Marmot is that their "0" degree bags really wouldn't be close to comfortable at all at even 10 degrees. The only bags that don't "sandbag" their ratings (pardon the pun) are as follows:

Feathered Friends
Western Mountaineering
Sherpa Mountaineering

Agreed. The packaging that the Kelty bag comes in rates the comfort limit as 17* and the lower limit as 4*, like lefteye says. I expect all bag ratings to be off. Everyone sleeps different and I know that I'm cold- so I have yet to get it this low- but I would expect to be reasonably comfy down to 20*. Anyways, you still will have a hard time beating it for the price, and yes, it is filled with cheap duck down, but at least it's not synthetic I don't expect it will be as warm, light, or small as the more expensive bags but for those of us on a budget this is at least something to check out.

[Papa D]

Mine is a Sherpa Adventure Gear Bag - not sure the model but it's -15 - had it about 3 years - - also check out Feathered Friends "snow bunting" and snowy owl" - Mont Bell stuff is also pretty good - no, I don't "trust" Kelty or Marmot - just big companies selling stuff (which I have a bit of) the bags I suggest are clearly not for everyone - certainly not the casual camper -- my passion is long distance trekking and sleeping outside in (sometimes) the coldest weather imaginable - when most folks are inside and their pipes are still bursting - next time it's super super cold, think about me - I'm likely out - sleeping warm - and yes, $700 to $900 is a lot of money but when you are warm and it's really really really cold you'll appreciate the mottto, "the cheap man spends the most"