bear-proof containers

[Sir-Packs-Alot]

Just clicked on your link at 10:05pm Monday night Feb. 27 - 6 minutes after you posted it - it says REQUIRED. Wish I were wrong. I hang a good bear bag.

[Yahula]

Just clicked on your link at 10:05pm Monday night Feb. 27 - 6 minutes after you posted it - it says REQUIRED. Wish I were wrong. I hang a good bear bag.

It has said REQUIRED from the beginning and has never changed.

[Blissful]

Yes rumor was going around it was changed to recommended. I saw the signed order online that it is required.
http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_...rdb5351875.pdf

[Groundpounder]

500 lb Black bear took 4-5 hikers food from the bear cables at Woods Hole last year late March early April and clawed through a kevlar food bag like it was cotton. Showed no fear and calmly walked out of camp then proceeded to the shelter at Blood mtn. and took the lone hikers food there as well. The bear is well known but the problem is there's no where to relocate this bear. It seems that his behavior may lead to a confrontation at some point. Not good. I would hike straight thru this area if i were heading to Neels Gap. Hope Pirate is still there.

[MuddyWaters]

Drawing on my psychology classes a bit, it seems that the trouble bears need a bit of what is termed "aversion therapy". No, not loud noises, etc.

It would seem that if you intentionally fed them food with jolokia pepper in it, it might leave a negative impression on them. A child only touches a hot burner once. A dog only fools with a skunk once. And a bear that consumed a fair amount of jolokia, might just swear off people food forever. The bear might be smart enough to eat food that doesnt smell like it has pepper in it, or not.

[nufsaid]

next step, steel bear boxes. the only solution

I support trapping the bears and relocating them to NJ.

[nufsaid]

500 lb Black bear took 4-5 hikers food from the bear cables at Woods Hole last year late March early April and clawed through a kevlar food bag like it was cotton. Showed no fear and calmly walked out of camp then proceeded to the shelter at Blood mtn. and took the lone hikers food there as well. The bear is well known but the problem is there's no where to relocate this bear. It seems that his behavior may lead to a confrontation at some point. Not good. I would hike straight thru this area if i were heading to Neels Gap. Hope Pirate is still there.

Send him/her up to NJ. They seem to have all the answers to bear issues.

[LDog]

shoulda coulda read ahead

[nufsaid]

I have used an Ursak with the odor proof bags for a while now with no problems from bears.

Some use their food bags as a pillow and have had no problems.

[nufsaid]

How do you line up all the idiot hikers in a row? M&M's?

That is ridiculous. Now if you are talking peanut M&Ms ..... maybe

[rocketsocks]

I support trapping the bears and relocating them to NJ.

Yeah we got plenty of room,bring em on down.Last week I was at the Zoo.Saw a bear there and said,what they get you for?He told me,disturbin the peace,and literin.Though break kid.

[MuddyWaters]

500 lb Black bear took 4-5 hikers food from the bear cables at Woods Hole last year late March early April and clawed through a kevlar food bag like it was cotton. Showed no fear and calmly walked out of camp then proceeded to the shelter at Blood mtn. and took the lone hikers food there as well. The bear is well known but the problem is there's no where to relocate this bear. It seems that his behavior may lead to a confrontation at some point. Not good. I would hike straight thru this area if i were heading to Neels Gap. Hope Pirate is still there.

Fella I know took his wife camping some yrs back out west in Wy I think, maybe near Yellowstone, dont recall. She was worried about bears.

They were bothered by lights from a truck shining thru the tent as a ranger drove repeatedly around the campground after dark. Finally, he got up and went out and asked the ranger why he was driving around . Turns out the area they were camping in, was in the middle of an area where they relocated problem bears, and the rangers job was to drive around to spot them if they came into the campground, and run them off.

He chose not to tell his wife this.

[ndwoods]

Ursack is exceptable all except in a couple of places in the Sierra...yosemite being one. The Ursack site used to say where...I use one on occasion. If I am going to be in heavy bear area I use my bearikade tho...

[TammyLynn]

500 lb Black bear took 4-5 hikers food from the bear cables at Woods Hole last year late March early April and clawed through a kevlar food bag like it was cotton. Showed no fear and calmly walked out of camp then proceeded to the shelter at Blood mtn. and took the lone hikers food there as well. The bear is well known but the problem is there's no where to relocate this bear. It seems that his behavior may lead to a confrontation at some point. Not good. I would hike straight thru this area if i were heading to Neels Gap. Hope Pirate is still there.

I am lying in a bed at Walasi-yi Inn right now. Pirate is indeed here.

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[Lone Wolf]

I am lying in a bed at Walasi-yi Inn right now. Pirate is indeed here.

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ask him when is he comin' to damasskiss

[Pedaling Fool]

http://www.accessnorthga.com/detail.php?n=245591

Reading the below excerpt from the link in the OP makes me wonder How did the USFS get the reports, i.e. from thru-hikers, section hikers, weekenders... and how many did they receive before putting out this directive? It seems logical to conclude that the bulk of the reports came from thru-hikers since the requirement for canisters goes only until June.

I'm just curious how this all came about.


Excerpt:

"The new regulation is in response to what the forest service calls conflicts between people and black bears in the region. The measure runs until June and involves a five mile section of trail between Jarrard and Neels Gaps."

[WingedMonkey]

It may only run during March 1 through June 1 of each year, but it is in effect each season until 2016.

[xokie]

What do people DO with a bear canister? Hang it? Sleep with it? Leave it out for the bear to play with? I'd worry about Mr. Bear wandering off with all my food and my fifty dollar plastic jar and losing it over the side of a mountain.

[beachbunny]

Drawing on my psychology classes a bit, it seems that the trouble bears need a bit of what is termed "aversion therapy". No, not loud noises, etc.

It would seem that if you intentionally fed them food with jolokia pepper in it, it might leave a negative impression on them. A child only touches a hot burner once. A dog only fools with a skunk once. And a bear that consumed a fair amount of jolokia, might just swear off people food forever. The bear might be smart enough to eat food that doesnt smell like it has pepper in it, or not.

we had a western hunting guide in camp last fall so naturally i started talking bear with him. the guide told me what they did with nusiance bears was slather a can of bear spray with peanut butter,leave it outside of camp=end of nusiance bear problem

[luxury liner]

500 lb Black bear took 4-5 hikers food from the bear cables at Woods Hole last year late March early April and clawed through a kevlar food bag like it was cotton. Showed no fear and calmly walked out of camp then proceeded to the shelter at Blood mtn. and took the lone hikers food there as well. The bear is well known but the problem is there's no where to relocate this bear. It seems that his behavior may lead to a confrontation at some point. Not good. I would hike straight thru this area if i were heading to Neels Gap. Hope Pirate is still there.

I was headed up to the AT yesterday afternoon from Dick Creek Road and and saw old Mr. (Mrs?) Bear just south of Jared Gap, hightailin' it south south-west towards Burnett Field Mountain. I wouldn't have guessed 500 lbs, but he was a good 150 yrds away and I didn't I didn't ask him to step on a scale. Watch those pic-a-nic baskets.