I have seen poop above water sources....its going to just be a matter of time before someone gets seriously ill from contamination. I mean, who in their right mind poops above or close to a water source? Not in the TEHCC's area, but I saw in the Smokeys too entire poop fields above springs. I wish people used their brains, but many don't think about who is coming behind them. I think privies will be the future to concentrate the fecal impact.
If they all are in fact, planned, approved, and monitored that is a very good thing, and is what I would expect. But it also hints at the difficulties, and why possibly there arent more of them.
As far as contaminating water, any where you poop in the mountains, will run downhill eventually. Contamination of local mountain spring water sources arent the end of the contamination concern, the communities residing in lower valleys have to be concerned with it too, especially if their water supplies come from surface water.
A lot of my former work involved ADA. I agree, whole heartedly!
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Next is going to be wheel chair access required for Iron Workers when building skyscrapers.
I too agree that handicapped accessed privies are sort of silly, but you are saying that you're friend spent an additional $30K to make one bathroom ADA Compliant? I've built quite a few ADA compliant bathrooms and it simply requires increased turning radius, a 36" door with a special handle (not necessary on an open doored privy), an elongated bowl toilet and grab bars. There are a number of ADA compliant privies on the AT now (the new one at Cable Gap, NC comes to mind) - - you have to build it a little bigger and add grab bars - very silly, I agree but it adds no more than a couple of hundred dollars to a privy and shouldn't add more than a couple of thousand to an existing commercial bathroom - - must be more to that story.
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We aren't talking about just hand rails and a wider door!
It's about corrupt government officials, civil engineers, contractors, and a "good ole boy" kickback system.
First comes the permit, then the environmental impact study, then the architectural drawings, the codes inspections, the "approved" contractor list, etc.
I have property in Florida. The county government forced me to spend $35k on 40 feet of "super asphalt" and a commercial driveway apron. It had to be big enough to meet specs to pull an 18 wheeler in there,.....even though it went to a dirt road and no 18 wheeler has ever been there,....or will be there.
Because the civil engineering firm had specified super asphalt, regular asphalt was not acceptable. Wouldn't you know,...there were only three contractors in the county approved for super asphalt,.....all friends of the civil engineering firm and county planning commission. The county inspector had never seen "super" asphalt, didn't know how to handle it, had to call his supervisor to the scene. The supervisor determined that it was too hot, ordered it returned and a new load brought in. (I don't know why they couldn't just let it cool down.)
Not only that, but I was required to cede 40 feet of road frontage land to the county for $1.
Then, three years later I wanted to build a 40 X 60 ft pole barn. I got a price from the contractor for $16k.
Trusses, metal roof, etc.
Every board connection had three 16p nails. The codes inspector came in and demanded that they add a 4th nail to every joint.
Because it was located in what is considered wetlands, the Southwest Water Management Agency (known locally as "Swift Mud") was involved. I forget the exact number, but the permit for that was in the $5-8k range.
By the time I was done paying off the county,.....it cost me just over $30k..........for a $16k pole barn!
I never intended to get off on this subject, but it's an example of how the government is an obstacle to doing business. And for a small business,.....it can be a kiss of death.
My friend with the kickboxing school was in California. You can imagine the looney tunes and over-the-top regulations there!
Far and away my least favorite part of the trail was the Smokies, precisely because of the minefields that you are required to camp in............ geez!
Well, we could all just carry PVC pipe, and pack it out.
How about portojohns at road crossings. There are pay ones thet cost a quarter or two to use if price is a issue. Who would volunteer to empty a composting toilet and that compost is a biohazard. How about crapping in a fire ring and it will get burned up seeing how playing with fire is so popular.