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    Default Do you think of feel that you are on top of the food chain?

    Fair question if you are in the "wilderness" would you think you can get out of it? - Alive. Could you live off the land separated from you pack 2-5 days? No its not even close to "Survival" cus most of you do not think that's a necessity.. But do you have the skills -

    It's a simple question... do you think you have the stuff?


    FYI this is a fun question about your thoughts... IDGAD .... this is more about a fun read!
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    I do not believe I'd be able to eat like I'm use to, I wouldn't worry about bears, and if I was real hungry, they'd have to fear me, but yeah, I don't feel I'm prepaired for that, good question Woo, always wanted to learn about what to eat in the wilds.

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    we're not on the AT in this scenario. are we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Old Owl View Post
    Fair question if you are in the "wilderness" would you think you can get out of it? - Alive. Could you live off the land separated from you pack 2-5 days? No its not even close to "Survival" cus most of you do not think that's a necessity.. But do you have the skills -

    It's a simple question... do you think you have the stuff?


    FYI this is a fun question about your thoughts... IDGAD .... this is more about a fun read!

    So do we have nothing but our clothes or can we have a few items??

    p.s. case of Mt. House Sweet & Sour Pork maybe?

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    If everything broke perfectly -- not cold at night and easy to find water, no drenching rain, etc then yes, probably, only because I'm pretty sure that I could go for 5 days without much food at all. But if it was cold, if no water, if I had any significant injury, etc., then no, I almost certainly couldn't survive.

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    2 days?

    Sleep late, check out the cool clouds,take a nap, throw rocks at tree, go to sleep.
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    10-K its what ever is in your pockets.

    closest to your pork will be a happy chipmunk
    There was an Old Man with a owl,
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    There's an organization in Maryland that teaches some primitive skills. I thinly its called ancestral knowledge or something. They teach flintmaking, trapping, bow fires, tracking, edible plants, etc for cheap. I've thought about taking one of their courses, because they're so cheap.

    Survivalism is a passing hobby of mine, but I doubt is survive anything serious. Although if push came to shove, people have been known to accomplish great things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verasch View Post
    They teach flintmaking, trapping, bow fires, tracking, edible plants, etc
    The only knowledge I've found to even come close to keeping me alive has been the edible plants part.
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    Stop
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    .........alway's have liked this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketsocks View Post
    Stop
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    .........alway's have liked this.
    +1 Then I would take my @$$ to the house! I'm too mean to die out in the wilderness! Maddog
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    Well Verasch - Primitive skills and such are horribly time consuming a pinch of what you would learn would be appropriate for the question. Most of it is useless.....

    Just for kicks and giggles I will explain my answer.... one of the most important moments in mans history was the gathering of pine pitch and growths or pimples on pines. The collection talks little time and the bounty is so important for fire building. In wet or snowy weather, the nuggets and pitch is full of oils like Linseed, very flammable and easy to light.
    There was an Old Man with a owl,
    Who continued to bother and howl;
    He sat on a rail, And imbibed bitter ale,
    Which refreshed that Old Man and his owl.
    . WOO <Audio

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    Other than some advanced math, I've found myself capable of doing anything asked of me.
    I think I'm just lucky that way, got it from my Dad..... jack of all trades with a "can do" attitude.
    The ability may be there, but I'm not sure of the desire.
    Doing it for real...... life or death.....
    Sounds a bit too stressful.

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    if i couldnt get out id rather die in the wilderness than at work

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    Depends what I have with me.
    I started a fire with a bow drill once. But it was under ideal conditions with pre-prepared tinder.
    I don't normally carry much of a knife (razor blade) when hiking so, would be hard to make a slingshot or something to kill animals with.
    If I had (even empty) a water bottle, I'm sure I could find water. (found it in Death Valley once when hitchhiking through there and ran out)
    Would be able to tell north from sun or stars (if not cloudy) although I'd probably have my GPS anyway.
    I would probably be able to stay warm enough although food is a big factor in that regard in cold temps of course. (But I'd probably have a lighter so, could build a fire)

    Importance factors: warmth, shelter, water, mobility, food. (in that order)

    But to answer your question, it all depends on the situation of course.
    If I was healthy, mobile, and had my gear with me, no problem. (unless I was in Kenya or something and there were lions everywhere)

    If I was hurt, no gear, snowing out, and nobody knew where I was, ( normally the case) then, I'd be in big trouble.

    I have spent a night out, in snow, with only my daypack and survived fine although it was a long night and I totally changed my 10 essential list afterwards.
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    jd it more of oh crap now I really have to do it. glad you weighed in.
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    . WOO <Audio

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    While I am comfortable with fire making, navigation, shelter building, and basic first aid, the food thing would be my biggest obstacle.

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    you just reminded me to make sure I always have my fire starter with me on my trips. I think being able to build a fire is the most important element. you can stay alive without food for a few days but you need water. and I could probably build a shelter so I should be okay for a few days, use the fire to signal for help.
    firestarter yeah that's the ticket.
    its all good

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    best fire starter is (IMO) is a simple white plastic Micro bic... turns out wood matches are for boys..... so they won't play with super light bics....in camp...

    There more there ....DWAI
    oh why would I say white???? easy to see the butane level...I am just being goofy.
    There was an Old Man with a owl,
    Who continued to bother and howl;
    He sat on a rail, And imbibed bitter ale,
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    . WOO <Audio

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Old Owl View Post
    best fire starter is (IMO) is a simple white plastic Micro bic... turns out wood matches are for boys..... so they won't play with super light bics....in camp...

    There more there ....DWAI
    oh why would I say white???? easy to see the butane level...I am just being goofy.
    Yep, they don't make them matches like they use to, I'm sure you can find some good ones on the internet, but not just at any old store anymore.

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