Need Single person, double wall help

[Fulkrum]

FamilyGuy - You've got me looking into Tarp Tents aging. LOL. You have recommended the Notch, would you also recommend the Scarp 1? The layout appeals to me more. Possibly the Moment? I'd prefer a tent that docent use Hiking poles to set it up.
The conversation kind of slipped into condensation and misting but as I said in my first post I also just prefer not to have the mesh start at the bath tub. In an ideal world I'd like solid material about 18" - 24" or so up from the bath tub, then screen.

[FamilyGuy]

I haven't used the Scarp but it is considered a 3+ season in standard form and a 4 season shelter with the crossing poles. If I didn't use trekking poles, this is definitely the tent I would get. Two vestibules, two doors, fabric inner (option), loads of room and usable volume, and great performance in the wind (according to Chris Townsend).

I highly recommend you give Henry Shires a call. He should be able to steer you in the right direction.

[ChinMusic]

I'd prefer a tent that docent use Hiking poles to set it up.

Well, that was an important piece on information. Why were you looking at the LHS then? If you hike sans poles..........

[Fulkrum]

ChinMusic - A Tent that doesn't use hiking poles for support is a preference, not a deal breaker. I'm sorry I didn't mention it earlier. Honestly I'm embarrassed to say I missed the line saying the Lightheart used hiking poles.
FamilyGuy - The Scarp defiantly looks interesting. Seems very roomy. The more I read the more I start to lean in the Scarps direction.

[Old Hiker]

ChinMusic - A Tent that doesn't use hiking poles for support is a preference, not a deal breaker. I'm sorry I didn't mention it earlier. Honestly I'm embarrassed to say I missed the line saying the Lightheart used hiking poles.
FamilyGuy - The Scarp defiantly looks interesting. Seems very roomy. The more I read the more I start to lean in the Scarps direction.

http://www.lightheartgear.com/index....33fbd9c08a215d

I'm looking into getting these or seeing if I can make my own. I don't really like trekking poles - they seem flimsy to me.

[ChinMusic]

http://www.lightheartgear.com/index....33fbd9c08a215d

I'm looking into getting these or seeing if I can make my own. I don't really like trekking poles - they seem flimsy to me.

If you are saying the trekking poles are flimsy, that is not the case. Trekking poles are more than strong enough for the job. If you are saying the tent poles are flimsy, I can say that the trekking poles are stronger are stronger than the substitutes.

[Old Hiker]

If you are saying the trekking poles are flimsy, that is not the case. Trekking poles are more than strong enough for the job. If you are saying the tent poles are flimsy, I can say that the trekking poles are stronger are stronger than the substitutes.

Weeelllll, it's a rainy Friday, my left hand has a bad cut so I can't grab anything to work with - let the argument ensue !!!

Nah - it just seems if I put my 200 pounds on a pole instead of my hoe handle or natural wood stick, the pole bends. I'm afraid it'll bend in two or snap instead of supporting my weight like my staves do.

Nuthin' personal - just preference. I may have to go to poles with the SoLong 6 - I'm really trying to cut weight and adding 8.5 ozs after shedding 1 lb 14 ozs just ain't right!!

[ChinMusic]

Nah - it just seems if I put my 200 pounds on a pole instead of my hoe handle or natural wood stick, the pole bends. I'm afraid it'll bend in two or snap instead of supporting my weight like my staves do.

There are plenty of 200+ers out there successfully using poles. I would bet the 200+ crowd uses them MORE than the sub 200s.

But, I'm sure, with a bit of selective whittling, a stick would serve as a pole as well............

[Franco]

There are poles and there are poles...
The advantage of using adjustable trekking poles with a shelter is just that : they can be adjusted.
That allows you (with most but not all) to re-tension the tent from the inside without having to go out to re-stake or pull guylines in.
The other point is that most of the trekking pole supported shelter work best within a certain range , for example 43-45" , that may not be the height of your stave or fixed pole.
But if trekking poles are not used , than a lot of the weight advantage is lost compared to poled shelters.
My take is that more attention should be paid on how a shelter works for oneself, it isn't all about weight , concentrate on design features that work for you not for someone else.
Franco

[Old Hiker]

Ah, Franco, now you are just making sense - post 29. I'm pretty sure that has NO place on WhiteBlaze !!

Chin, no doubt - post 28. All comes down to personal preferences.

[Cozy]

If you are in the central Florida area, go to Travel Country in Altamonte Springs. They have several tents that they'll set up for you and you can go in and try them for size. They have 3 or more guys who thru hiked the AT and other trails so they are knowledgable.

I personally have the MSR Nook tent. It's advertised as a lightweight 2 person backcountry tent but it's really more like a 1.5 person tent. Double wall, great headroom, freestanding, 3 season, and enough room for 6'+ guy. Quality tent that withstood a thunderstorm on the AT. Good luck.

[FamilyGuy]

There are plenty of 200+ers out there successfully using poles. I would bet the 200+ crowd uses them MORE than the sub 200s.

But, I'm sure, with a bit of selective whittling, a stick would serve as a pole as well............

Indeed! 215lbs and can put full weight on my BD poles.