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#2
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fiddlehead
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02-06-2008, 20:47
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Yeah, i wouldn't take half that stuff. sunglasses on the AT? for what?
THat must be an old list from the 1960's boy scout handbook or something. I do see it's an old thread. Lots of that going around these days. Must be cabin fever. |
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#3
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submariner
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04-24-2008, 12:11
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I am looking for the simplist and lightest weight gear lists from successful thru hikers. thanks - submariner
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#6
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Camp Counselor
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10-23-2008, 14:48
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My thinking on the 10 Essentials is that they are the items most needed to stay warm, and found (either not lost, or easy to find) in the back country under normal circumstances.
It's arguable what the "back country" is and how much you can drop from the list when you're closer to civilization like much of the AT is. However, as I understand it, the idea of the list came from thwarting the most common causes of unnecessary Search and Rescue like Hypothermia, being lost with no sense of how to get out, etc. With that in mind things like sunglasses (except maybe in the desert or in snow covered terrain) and toilet paper probably don't fit the list. I've seen at least a dozen or more variations on the list. But the most common ones seem to come close to what www.hikesafe.com publishes. And, of course, the list would need to be adjusted based on typical climate, etc. Map Compass Warm Clothing - Sweater or Pile Jacket - Long Pants (wool or synthetic) - Hat (wool) Extra Food and Water Flashlight or Headlamp Matches/Fire starters First Aid Kit/Repair Kit Whistle Rain/Wind Jacket & Pants Pocket Knife In the end though I think the list is a personal decision to be weighed against conditions, location, hiker experience and skill, etc. I have seen UL'ers put many of these items together in only a few ounces with a little creativity so there's likely little reason to leave too many of them behind. Just my humble opinion... |
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#10
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4eyedbuzzard
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01-24-2009, 15:52
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Provided you have a lighter or matches, cotton balls in vaseline work well, as does vegetable oil, as does hand sanitizer, etc. Lots of normally carried stuff will burn, getting it ignited is usually the hardest part. I always have a backup to the bic.
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#11
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Tinker
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01-24-2009, 16:33
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Potato chips work, too. As mentioned above, if you carry vegetable oil for cooking, you have a great firestarter. Pour some on a piece of cloth as a wick, light, and away you go. Esbit tabs work very well, too, especially if you already carry them to boil water with. |
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#12
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Mike Tulane
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02-15-2009, 23:01
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"Best firestarter"? Hand sanitizer. Leave the alcohol swabs from the first aid kit at home. Hand sanitizer is a multipurpose item - great firestarter, disinfects cuts/abrasions,cleans hands. Of course, the alohol swabs can also serve as firestarter.
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#13
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Tinker
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02-15-2009, 23:08
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Sanitizer soaked twisted toilet paper burns a good long while. |
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#15
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Jack Tarlin
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07-24-2009, 17:46
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Actually, I think the original list is pretty good.
I'd add extra batteries for your headlamp; duct tape; and I also carry a two inch metal sleeve from the Hardware Store. That and the duct tape will absolutely save your bacon if you break a tent pole and have to splint it, and this happens to people more often than you might think. |
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#16
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riceNbeans
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07-24-2009, 20:27
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#17
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fiddlehead
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07-24-2009, 22:18
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I always get a kick out of how people say they would carry sunglasses and sunscreen, a knife and flashlight before they would carry a sleeping bag and shelter.
To each his own i guess. |
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#18
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Connie
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10-24-2009, 12:54
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"The 10 Essentials" at my website may vary from "classic list" published by The Mountaineers
http://www.ultralightbackpackingonline.info/facts1.html and http://www.mountaineersbooks.org/client/client_pages/Media%20Archives/mtn_media_TenEssentials.cfm but notice their "Ten Essential Systems" includes emergency shelter. I don't know, if Freedom of the Hills published the other list first, or REI. I remember having "The 10 Essentials" printed sheet put in my hand at the upstairs Pike Street REI store. I don't have my original Freedom of the Hills anymore. It was our "bible". That said, I was with the people who developed "The 10 Essentials". There was a lot of discussion and I participated in it. George Martin, at the Olympic College Mountaineering program, put the first "The 10 Essentials" list I saw in my hand. It was not, "Buy a list of stuff and you will be okay". It came about the time that a MD was sued for helping an accident victim on the highway. "The Good Samaritan Law" existed. We decided we in Mountain Rescue would "push the limits". In fact, we were allowed to do more than a "field medic" if we were 50 miles from a MD. We did, and with success. Next, fire departments were allowed to have a "rescue car". Next, EMT's. The 10 Essentials were only one effort. We just wanted people to have safe and enjoyable outdoor experiences. |
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