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#1
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SGT Rock
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04-27-2006, 07:49
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Sorry everyone that it has taken me a while to get back on to this project of writing the packing list basics article follow ups. I got sort of busy while writing them. I recently found some time to do a little work and finish this part which I started 6 months ago.
So have at it and throw some edit suggestions at me. I will start on the next sections as time permits. This is one project I hope to finish by next season. |
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#2
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txulrich
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04-27-2006, 10:29
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Great article Sarge.
The only comment I can think of is that nothing is said concerning group size until the size of pot required is discussed. I would think that group size will impact the choice of stove as well. I wouldn't want to try and feed a group of 4 using an alcohol, wood or solid fuel stove. It pretty well demands a canister or gas stove at that point. Something that may need to be added in the future is the new technology in water purification. The Aquastar ultraviolet system looks promising, but I think the jury is still out on it yet. Keep up the good work. |
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#3
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SGT Rock
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04-27-2006, 10:36
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Well I did mention on some stoves (like alcohol and esbit) that they are usually only good for solo backpackers (note usually) while the three others (gas, canister, and wood) are fine for solo or groups. I didn't feel a need to say what type of stove was better for a group at that point because of how I labeled those stove types. Maybe I should look at the wording.
Honestly I did some edits to try and shorten this section because it ended up longer than I originally intended and even timed out a few tries at uploading it. |
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#6
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flawoodsman
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04-27-2006, 13:21
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Ok SGT....now I'm really confused on what type of stove to use....HMMMM?
Might go with a wood burning one that can be converted to using fuel. ![]() |
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#7
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SGT Rock
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04-27-2006, 13:42
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Well that is the thing, there are so many ways to work that one out. I like the idea of wood myself, but haven't been able to convert - I am still an alcohol fan myself, although there are some great canister stoves and a cool new gas stove I can't wait to get my hands on.
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#8
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joel137
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04-27-2006, 21:19
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A couple of comments regarding stoves:
Gas: clogging is a thing of the past if you get the right stove. I'm not plugging a specific brand, but my MSR with shaker jet has never clogged in 8-years, the one I first bougth without the shaker jet would clog about every 3-4 weeks and the orifice would require reaming with the wire whisker. So I think that is a problem that has been solved. Alcohol: While no fan of alcohol stoves, another good point is the lower temperature that alcohol burns, this means its harder to burn yourself. |
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#9
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SGT Rock
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04-28-2006, 01:55
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#10
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flawoodsman
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04-28-2006, 10:36
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SGT Rock---
I have found some really neat Wood Burning stoves on the net thatdraw in their own air without using a fan. I'm going to build/buy one to see if it really works. |
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#12
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flawoodsman
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04-28-2006, 15:30
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#14
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cannonball
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04-28-2006, 18:04
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Thank you for putting the time into this informative effort. All I would add is to carry some type of cleaning gel/ anti bacterial goo to use on your hands before cooking and eating. One would be amazed what kind of nasties are on your hands after hiking all day.
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#15
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Peaks
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04-28-2006, 18:21
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Rock,
Nice write up. I suggest that you note what type of alcohol to buy: Use denatured alcohol (paint store stuff) and stay away from the isoprople (drug store type). Also, buying fuel by the ounce (both gas and alcohol) is easy along the AT, but not that common elsewhere. |
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#16
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SGT Rock
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04-28-2006, 23:42
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#17
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Doctari
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04-29-2006, 15:02
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Great post! Thanks.
I have found that side by side "water boil test" with my gas (dragonfly) vs Alcohol stove the gas wins, usually handily. But, on a from in the pack to water boiling compititon, my alcohol stove wins or at least ties. Just something to consider when choosing a stove. IMHO if a stove boils water in 1 minute, but takes 5 to set up & another (lighter?) stove boils water in 5 minutes but sets up in 1, you have a "Boil time" that is identical. Example: my dragonfly set up is; get stove out of pack / stuff sack, get out fuel bottle, attach fuel bottle to stove, pump up fuel bottle, prime stove, light, wait for stove to heat up, put on pot. My alcohol stove set up; get stove & fuel botle out of pack / stuff sack, fill stove, light, set pot on stove. |
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#18
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NO_Turtle
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02-23-2009, 12:23
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I would like to add that the esbits are poisonous, and they leave a layer of soot on your pot. You can put th pot in a bag but soon the bag(s) get nasty, and for me the esbits (poison and soot) are not a solution I would consider again. From my recollection esbits only last 10 to 12 minutes so if you are planning to cook a soup at the end of the day, they are not a good option for that. They have one temperature (high) so simmering anything is out of the question.
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