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Published by Hog On Ice
04-07-2005 |
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#1
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icemanat95
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04-07-2005, 21:37
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The basic square knot often gets overlooked in these tutorials, but it never ceases to amaze me how few people actually know the difference between a square knot and a granny or the advantages of the square knot over the granny. Half-hitches and whole hitches are useful. How about the water knot?
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#3
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"ME & U"
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04-07-2005, 22:49
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Climbers knot or figure 8 on a bight works well for the bear bag deal and is easier to untie when wt is put on it.(I hang 2 bags) The round turn with 2 half hitches, and truckers hitch come to mind. I use both on my hammock set up. Round turn on the tarp grommets/tree, and truckers inside for my bug net. I also use the tautline hitch for my stakes.
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#4
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Pencil Pusher
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04-07-2005, 22:53
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I'd think the 'wrap three, pull two' would be useful for the hammock freaks. Basically the knot doesn't get loaded when weighted. All the knots I know are of the climbing variety, maybe even some of which you already described. I suppose they go by different names for different sports/occupations/etc. The constrictor knot I assume is the slip knot.
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#5
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Frosty
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04-07-2005, 23:05
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#7
By
Youngblood
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04-08-2005, 08:50
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I figure one important thing about knots is being able to easily untie them in the morning.
I use the bowline quite often, it's my choice of hammock rope knots, but I put a quick release in it like Clark shows on his web site in his hammock manual page ( http://www.junglehammock.com/tips.php and hit your Page Down key about 3 times). I prefer to use a 4 wrap knot that Ed Speer recommonds to tie my tarp ridgeline taut and finish it off with two half hitches, the last half hitch I use the quick release trick. (I use the bowline with quick release on the first tarp ridgeline tree and the 4 wrap knot on the second tarp ridgeline tree.) I use the clove hitch on my smooth shafted stakes (Ray Jardine's book). They are easy to tie for this application, you basically form two loops and insert the stake. In the morning, I pull my stake, slide the clove hitch down the smooth shaft and just pull on the cord to remove any twist... this cleans the dirt of my stakes as well. |
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#8
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YerbaJon
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04-08-2005, 12:52
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(from http://www.swcp.com/~nmmc/climbrocks...butterfly_coil) My question for the forum: What tricks do you use to control length just to make a neater storage? Does this even matter, as Hog on Ice notes "the Cross" is what matters? Any storage tricks for fitting in pack (ie., twisting, folding, etc.) Would I be better to stuff this into a bag? Thank you in advance. |
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#9
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Hog On Ice
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04-08-2005, 13:51
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The technique I use came from working with much smaller line - think yarn or twine for macrame. With this small stuff you hang one end of the line between a couple fingers and then wrap the line in a figure 8 between your thumb and little finger (some people use thumb and index finger) forming the cross in the middle - when one gets to the end of the line the last bit of line is wrapped fairly tightly around the cross or some people will use a rubber band. For bear bag rope (stripped 550 line approx 30 to 50 feet long) this is too much to get between your thumb and little finger and so I wind the figure 8 over the point of my elbow and the palm of my hand and as with the small stuff just wrap the last bit of the cord tightly over the cross in the middle to finish it up and to hold the cross in place. |
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#10
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Pencil Pusher
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04-08-2005, 20:50
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I would say for the butterfly technique presented, I find the halfway point for the rope and lay down arm's length coils on each side of the hand and with about two coil lengths remaining, tie it onto my body. Sometimes I'm too long, othertimes too short. Too long, maybe wrap around the belly again. Too short, take off and let loose another coil from the stack. But usually when it's too short I'll just make do, like on time where I just tied a loop in each end, draped it over the shoulder and binered the loops to the harness.
Anyway you do it (and you can see I'm lazy and not too specific about how I do), it's still useful to know as it's a great way to transition from climbing/rappelling to scrambling/walking. Rope bags are for the lycra-sport-weenies As for packing, just drape the whole bundle over the top of the pack with lid open and then close the lid and cinch down to keep it in place. |
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#11
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Hog On Ice
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04-12-2005, 14:00
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Added a couple notes on use of line with a tarp and trekking poles - please look over and suggest improvements - I rarely rig a tarp with trekking poles.
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#12
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SGT Rock
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04-12-2005, 14:08
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Just a formatting reccomendation, but the first letter of the first word after each number entry should be apatalized.
Also, what section of the article contents does this go under? Is this an existing area or do I need to start a new section and what would that be? |
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#13
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Hog On Ice
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04-12-2005, 14:21
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Well its still a work in progress but ultimately I would guess it would go into the Thru-hiker's Advice section since it is mainly aimed at beginners |
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#14
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SGT Rock
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04-12-2005, 14:31
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I intended thru-hiker advice to be more advice on thru-hiking. I think this knot stuff is applicable accross the board to all hikers. Maybe there should be a "Techniques and Tricks of the Trade" section that could include stuff like how to pitch a tarp, how to repair a Thermarest, how to tie knots, etc.
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#15
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Hog On Ice
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04-12-2005, 15:17
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#16
By
Hog On Ice
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07-28-2005, 12:45
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I added the Anchor Bend to the list of useful knots for attaching a line to a ring or 'biner - this was a suggestion from CanoeCamper over on the Around the Campfire forum.
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#17
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4whim
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11-01-2005, 18:52
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Hogs on Ice,
I believe I was the beginner section hiker you referred to on your article of knots. Early April, Shenandoah valley, you called me "Straw" as I was wearing a straw hat! Anyway,,,you were a nice surprise at the end of a long day for me. My bear bag worked much better after you fixed the knot on the carbiner and straightened out my horrible tangled rope. 4whim |
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#18
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Hog On Ice
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11-02-2005, 07:21
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4whim, good to hear from you again and welcome to Whiteblaze
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