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Published by TJ aka Teej
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#2
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TJ aka Teej
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03-24-2005, 21:28
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Thanks for all the help, keep those words and ideas coming! |
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#3
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RockyTrail
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03-24-2005, 22:52
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"Widowmaker Widowmakers are weak wood attached to trees or large branches hung up in trees that pose a danger to a person below."
A Widowmaker can not only be weak attached wood, but it can be the entire tree itself, I think I've seen more of these than the branch-only type. I've woken up to find these over my campsite more times than I wish to admit. |
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#4
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walkin' wally
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03-25-2005, 16:37
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Buffer Zone, Usage I believe is the Trail Corridor.
Rocky Trail has a good point about Widowmakers. Some trail side trees for instance can topple part way up just by someone hitting them from ground level. The main stem can separate a distance up the trunk and hit someone below. I prefer to let the wind bring them down and cut them from the treadway at ground level. |
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#5
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TJ aka Teej
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03-25-2005, 16:48
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Need entries for:
Great Smoky Mountain National Park RMC Randolph Mountain Club DOC Dartmouth Outting Club GMC Green Mountain Club FPA/RUA Forest Protection/Restricted Use Areas CCC Civillian Conservation Corps Buffer Zone Trail Corridor Timber Line Crypto Nalgene Lexan Alcohol Stove Tin Can Stove and links to pics on WB to illustrate entries. |
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Last edited by TJ aka Teej; 03-28-2005 at 19:38..
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#6
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walkin' wally
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03-25-2005, 18:01
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MATC The Maine Appalachian Trail Club. The trail maintaining club responsible for trail maintenance from Grafton Notch, Maine to Baxter Peak on Mt Katahdin Maine.
In Maine The A. M. C. is responsible for maintaining the section that runs from the Maine -New Hampshire line to Grafton Notch. Two years ago there was a large bear box in front of the Carlo Col shelter. I did not see it there this past October during the Whiteblaze hike but it may have been moved to the tentsite area. Trail Runners Would that mean Ridge Runners such as those folks at Gulf Hagas, Abol and Bigelow? Or is this a person trying to traverse to the trail in the shortest time with a lightweight pack or a support system of folks at trail crossings? Pic suggestion? Would it be possible to link pictures to the trail terms without going to the entire photo section. In another words have a photo (s) dedicated to the trail term, if there is one ? I should be able to get a good photo of a widowmaker for instance as I have plenty in 'my' section. |
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#9
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Mountain Dew
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03-27-2005, 03:32
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A.T. thru-hiker, a hiker who passes every white blaze from Springer to Mt. K
Purist is NOT somebody that wants EVERYBODY to pass every white blaze. A purist is simply a hiker that believes my first comment is true. |
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#10
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Youngblood
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03-28-2005, 09:41
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Here are a few definitions from ALDHA's Thru Hiker Companion:
2,000-miler—A hiker who has hiked the entire length of the Appalachian Trail. Blue blaze—Blue-colored blaze used to indicate other trails, side trails to points of interest, and trails to springs, shelters, or campsites, water sources, or other features that are not actually on the A.T. Used as a verb (“I decided to blueblaze”), it denotes hiking side trails or routes other than the A.T. Blue-blazer—Hiker who is not committed to passing every white blaze. Long-distance hiker (LD hiker)—A hiker on a hike of 50 miles or more. Purist—A hiker who makes a covenant with him- or herself prior to the hike and then keeps the covenant during the entire hike. Most commonly, the covenant is to hike past every white blaze or to carry a backpack for the entire distance, or both. Section-hiker—A hiker who is hiking an entire trail over a period of years. Slackpack—Hiking without your pack, which is transported ahead for pick-up. Thru-hiker—On the A.T., a hiker who is hiking from Maine to Georgia or Georgia to Maine in one trip or, generally accepted, a person who has done same. Yellow blaze—Term used to denote the yellow center-line that is painted on a highway. Yellow-blazer—Someone who hitch hikes around sections of trail by following yellow blazes. ------------------------------------------ I think we should be using ALDHA's definitions instead of definitions that conflict with them. ALDHA, by its very nature, gives legitimacy to its definitions and these are found in the Companion which is carried by long distance hikers... should long distance hikers not trust ALDHA? Youngblood |
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#11
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max patch
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03-28-2005, 10:17
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#12
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Youngblood
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03-28-2005, 14:05
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That is a big IF about which one should be the authoritative source. I don't know which one is used by most AT thru-hikers or if that should be the critera for acceptance. It is a shame that they don't use the same definitions. You and I agree on some things, some things we don't... but I suspect we agree that having these inconsistant definitions is not a good thing and contributes to disagreements that are sometimes difficult to resolve. ALDHA is what it is and its name pretty much states that: Appalachain Long Distance Hikers Association. Likewise, Wingfoot is what he is: a widely recognized expert on AT thru-hiking. I feel that Wingfoot's Handbook is layed out in a more user friendly format than ALDHA's Companion, but I feel that ALDHA did a better job in its glossary of terms section than Wingfoot. Not only from a consistance standpoint but also in my understanding of what these terms actually mean. For instance, Wingfoot states in the 2003 Handbook: Thru-hiker is traditionally a person who is attempting to become a 2,000-Miler is a single, continuous journey by putting on a backpack, leaving from one terminus of the Trail, and hiking essentially unassisted to the other terminus. Long-distance hiker is a somewhat indeterminate term applied to anyone who is hiking more than a few weeks, and who usually has to resupply at least once during his or her hike; often used interchangeably with the term thru-hiker. The last two sentences of his 2,000-Miler Requirements paragraph also state: "Is it necessary to be hiking every mile of the A.T. to be considered a thru-hiker? No, but if you want to be recognized as a 2,000 Miler at the end of your hike, you should have hiked every mile." --------------------------- So what is thru-hiker according to Wingfoot? Is it anyone who is hiking more than a few weeks, and who usually has to resupply at least once during his or her hike; or is it a white blazing, non-slack packing, non-direction changing purist; or is it someone who didn't necessarily hike every mile of the A.T.? I think Wingfoot contradicts himself and sometimes goes to unreasonable extremes. What do you think? I think we should list ALDHA's definitions and if folks don't think that is fair, then maybe we could list both and indentify from whence they came. For what its worth, these terms are not the only ones from Wingfoot that I think are questionable. Youngblood |
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Last edited by Youngblood; 03-28-2005 at 14:15..
Reason: spelling
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#13
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hikerjohnd
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03-28-2005, 14:06
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What about adding WhiteBlaze items? Example - WB = White Blaze; FSO = From Skin Out.
When I first started posting, it took me a while to understand some of the abbreviations - having them listed somewhere might be helpful to newbies... ************************ Secondly - I do not support using Wingfoot's definitions. This is not a political decision, but his definitions are 1 man's opinion. It seems that the WB community is deciding on appropriate defininitions and coming to a consensus on which to use. That does not mean that Wingy's definitions should not be considered - they just shouldn't be blindly adopted. |
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#14
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TJ aka Teej
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03-28-2005, 21:06
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Over two dozen new entries tonight! THANKS!!!
WW - thanks for the defs, and great idea about lexicon specific photos. Rock - no worries, no pics in the post, just links out to the gallery Rain Man - at least I spelt smoky right! Youngblood - I agree that the lexicon produced by the at-l and ALDHA is excellent, and I'm proud to say I helped a bit. But like the one on Rock's site, it includes some 'editorial comments' and attempts at humor. I'm trying to keep this version neutral. But there isn't just one dictionary, and if there's conflict we'll try to add both defs. Max - If there's a hyperlink to his lexicon, ask him if he wants it mentioned in this article. If there is, and if he does, have him contact me. hikerjohnd - I added FSO, and agree with your comments. |
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#15
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Rain Man
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03-29-2005, 09:38
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Keep up the good work! I think a glossary is a great idea, if you can avoid the provincialism that creeps into the ATC's glossary. ![]() Rain Man. |
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#16
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greenman
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03-29-2005, 13:44
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you were in the navy werntcha! mairnt!!!! |
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#17
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attroll
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04-03-2005, 19:45
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#18
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attroll
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04-03-2005, 20:03
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     I don't know what Rock was refering to. But you can keep editing you post TJ. I think that is what he meant by fixing it.
     Also I think he did give you moderator privileges. So I have a suggestion for you. Once you have updated the listing with what users have suggested then you could deleted the suggestion either by doing a soft delete or a Physically Remove Message from the database. This is just a suggestion. |
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