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mingo
08-26-2005, 14:15
check out this on the "secret" attempt to destroy our national treasures from our anti-environmental president:

Secret Rewrite of National Park Service Rules Would Abandon 'Preservation' of America's 388 Crown Jewels

To: National Desk, Environment and Political Reporters
Contact: Patrick Mitchell, 703-276-3266
or pmitchell(At)hastingsgroup.com,
for the Coalition of National Park Service Retirees

WASHINGTON, Aug. 26 /U.S. Newswire/ -- An ongoing and secret Interior Department attempt to rewrite and override 90 years of laws, rules and court rulings governing the 388 sites in the U.S. National Park System would "hijack" the American's national parks, leaving them wide open for what are now barred uses and making it extremely unlikely that the sites would survive as unspoiled treasures for future generations of Americans, according to the Coalition of National Park Service Retirees (CNPSR), which is a watchdog group of 410 NPS veterans accounting for 12,000 years of collective park management experience.
Just days prior to the White House conference on the environment to be held Aug. 28 to Aug. 31, in St. Louis, Mo., CNPSR today released a redlined version of the Interior Department's radical rewrite of the "rulebook" for the National Park Service. Spearheaded by a political appointee who was the former head of the Cody, Wyo., Chamber of Commerce, the hundreds of proposed changes to NPS procedures have been drawn up with no input by Congress, the public or the superintendents of national parks. The draft document is being made available on the Web by CNPSR at http://www.npsretirees.org.

Under the proposed rules, the use of snowmobiles would be radically expanded from currently limited levels at such sites as Yellowstone and Yosemite national parks.

In dozens of national parks and seashore areas, the use of jet skis, ORVs, dirt bikes and other mechanized vehicles would be permitted on a virtually unrestricted basis. At Gettysburg National Military Park the rules would permit the rebuilding of an obtrusive observation tower that recently was removed with broad public support. At Great Smoky Mountain National Park and dozens of other parks, the rules would permit huge increases in the number of noisy overflights that destroy the natural peace and quiet.

Britney Spears could hold a major concert at Shiloh National Military Park or nearly any national park since the new rules significantly increase the emphasis on permitting public uses over the traditional mission of preserving historic and natural places. At Shenandoah National Park, polluters would get a seat at the table to decide how much they should be allowed to impair the air quality and views at the park. Rather than working with park visitors to minimize the problems posed by improper food storage and other temptations, rangers would be forced to kill bears at Yellowstone if they damaged private property.

Although experts in CNPSR and other concerned groups are still weighing the likely impacts of the hundreds of proposed changes in the Interior Department draft, it already is clear that all or most of the 388 sites in America's National Park System would suffer major and possibly irreversible damage under the rule changes.

CNPSR Executive Council Chairman Bill Wade, former superintendent of the Shenandoah National Park, said: "The Coalition of National Park Service Retirees opposes this astonishing attempt to hijack the management of the 388 areas of our nation's park system and convert them into vastly diminished areas where almost anything goes. Until recently, both political parties have viewed the management of our parks as 'off limits area' where partisan politics are set aside and decisions are made based on what is truly in the public's interest. These draft policies shatter that precedent in favor of smash-and-grab politics that would weaken the preservation and protection of the areas that previous generations have added to the system. We should not trash the proud national park legacy that has been handed down to us by our parents and grandparents."

CNPSR Executive Council Member Jerry Rogers, former associate director for cultural resources of the National Park Service, said: "This radical rewrite stands nearly 100 years of national park stewardship on its head. Under these changes, the sights, sounds, and smells of motorized vehicles would dominate previously quiet parks. No longer would such impacts damage only Yellowstone and a handful of other parks. These rule changes would unleash on our national parks an army of off-road vehicles, dirt bikes, jet skis, powerboats, dune buggies and the like. No seashore, reservoir, forest area or desert patch would be immune from this attack and the result would be devastating: the end of national parks as the last great places where America cherishes the outdoors."

Key points of the proposed NPS management practice changes are as follows:

-- Abandoning the primary mission of the NPS. For almost 90 years, preservation of the Parks has been clearly established as the NPS' primary mission. Nonetheless, the proposed changes to NPS management recognize a far more limited mission, one which would recognize preservation as an objective only to the extent of avoiding any "impairment" of the Park System's resources and values. "Impairment" would be defined as referring only to permanent and irreversible damage. Under this new approach, parks could be presumed to be open for exploitation for purposes such as logging, mining and oil & gas exploration.

-- Exposing national parks to extensive new damage. Currently, the managers of national parks are charged with stepping in immediately to protect the parks from any and all real or potential threats -- both internal and external. Under the proposed rules, park managers could only take protective steps when "impairment" can be documented and, even then, most likely only if from internal sources.

-- Eliminating virtually all limits on motorized access to national parks, both on and off roads and trails. The Interior Department rewrite of the NPS management rules consistently eliminates such phrases in relation to national parks as "classrooms of our heritage," "legacy we leave to future generations," and "warrant the highest standard of protection." Instead, the parks are newly described in a variety of ways consistent with the phrase "repositories of outstanding recreation opportunities". Skiers on the rugged and remote Tioga Trail in Yosemite National Park would be shoved aside by snowmobilers who would be able to rip up the trail for the first time ever.

-- Subordinating national parks to the agendas of individual cities and states. The obligation of the National Park Service to serve all Americans would be undercut by the substitution of words that subordinate the broad national interest to narrow local interests. Every reference to NPS "collaboration" with cities and towns near parks has been changed to "cooperation." In this case, "cooperation" would mean joint operation of parks with park neighbors, thereby negating the superintendents' abilities to represent the broad interests of the people of the United States as a whole when those interests do not match narrow local interests, such as gateway communities that may be intent on a Disneyland-like commercialization of "their" national park.

-- Eliminating the scientific underpinning of NPS management. The entire draft has a decidedly anti-intellectual, anti-science tone. The drafters' hostility toward sound science is demonstrated by the elimination of all references to "evolution" or "evolutionary processes." The word "qualified" is eliminated when the drafters refer to park professionals who oversee the management of natural and cultural resources. The rewrite also eliminates the current requirement that there should be the use of "technologies" (science) used to protect the parks, such as the current research going on at the Grand Canyon to determine the extent of needed cutbacks on noise pollution from helicopters and other low-altitude overflights.

Tha Wookie
08-26-2005, 14:58
Bush is hardly going to leave anything good intact by the time he leaves or is forced to leave.

I hope everyone here who was complaining about "bush bashing" on this site during the elections, saying it was mere "politics" to talk about it nows sees what a mistake that was. Everyone who voted for Bush voted to degrade the quality of our parks, forests, rivers, tundras, grasslands, swamps, shores, and trails.

Since the Appalachian Trail is a unit of the National Park Service, Bush is now effectively zeroing in the AT, not to mention all the other Park lands.

Oh, yeah, but he's a "strong leader" or something like that... right?

What a puppet.

mingo
08-26-2005, 15:06
no doubt, you have put it well. smirky is the worst president for the environment in history. no question

Frosty
08-26-2005, 17:25
I hope everyone here who was complaining about "bush bashing" on this site during the elections, saying it was mere "politics" to talk about it nows sees what a mistake that was. Everyone who voted for Bush voted to degrade the quality of our parks, forests, rivers, tundras, grasslands, swamps, shores, and trails. Sorry, but no. I didn't complain before (and I'm not complaining now) but no mistake was made as far as I can see.

Like all the other crap posted, this is politics and bashing, and while great fun for all folks who are like minded, it isn't really about hiking and belongs in a non-hiking forum.

And I'd like to see Mingo's permit to post this stuff.

Blue Jay
08-26-2005, 17:27
You guys still don't get it. This is a democracy, the American people clearly do not want National Parks, we want SUV's and parking lots and sewage in our lakes and rivers and on and on. George was very clear on this during his first term. It's not like everyone, even someone like Mountain Dew, is not completely aware that Bush would drill Clingmans Dome if there were a gallon of crude to be had, that put a dime in his pocket. He would sell the very air his daughters breathe if he thought he could make a buck. Hell this is nothing, wait till Jeb gets elected. There are others on this forum who will be jumping for joy. We asked for it, we got it.

Tha Wookie
08-26-2005, 19:56
You guys still don't get it. This is a democracy, the American people clearly do not want National Parks, we want SUV's and parking lots and sewage in our lakes and rivers and on and on. George was very clear on this during his first term. It's not like everyone, even someone like Mountain Dew, is not completely aware that Bush would drill Clingmans Dome if there were a gallon of crude to be had, that put a dime in his pocket. He would sell the very air his daughters breathe if he thought he could make a buck. Hell this is nothing, wait till Jeb gets elected. There are others on this forum who will be jumping for joy. We asked for it, we got it.
Praise the Lord, hallelujah.

I am glad we can express our opinions in this country on the internet while they monitor every word.

Sly
08-26-2005, 20:11
Have a link? I'd like to spread the news. As Baltimore Jack so eloquently chastised someone for going beyond the bounds... shame.

JLB
08-27-2005, 01:24
Bush is one of the top 10 best Presidents, easily.

I can't wait or Jeb to get in there, so we can get more good leadership.

digger51
08-27-2005, 07:56
I wonder if any of my hoopjumping friends here have seen a presidentially approved version of this document , or if they are just using anything written by any individual in the administration as an excuse to once again jump on the Bush bashing wagon. Perhaps they should consider using their considerable internet prowess to send their wit and wisdom to the decision makers and let Mr Bush know how they feel instead of just trashing the man here. Nah, its too easy to just whine on WB.

justusryans
08-27-2005, 08:07
In order to get a fix on Bush's enviormental record all you have to do is take 30 minutes a day and watch CNN. Every day for 5 years. It's not just about the bills that get passed, it's about the laws already on the books he tries to change. I doin't trust him. John McCain in 08.

Tha Wookie
08-27-2005, 08:18
I wonder if any of my hoopjumping friends here have seen a presidentially approved version of this document , or if they are just using anything written by any individual in the administration as an excuse to once again jump on the Bush bashing wagon. Perhaps they should consider using their considerable internet prowess to send their wit and wisdom to the decision makers and let Mr Bush know how they feel instead of just trashing the man here. Nah, its too easy to just whine on WB.
You don't have to just do one or the other. I write letters, protest, discuss, conduct NPS research for trail management, writing a book, talk to media.... it's a lifestyle approach.

So far I haven't gotten any response from the Puppet.

justusryans
08-27-2005, 08:23
You don't have to just do one or the other. I write letters, protest, discuss, conduct NPS research for trail management, writing a book, talk to media.... it's a lifestyle approach.

So far I haven't gotten any response from the Puppet.
You know, I like you... You have the courage of your convictions. Whatever your politics. Instead of talking about it, you try to do what you think is right. I respect that!:sun

digger51
08-27-2005, 17:49
Wookie, if you are doing all of that then I support your trashing the man. I am not a Bush lover, but he is the President and I do support much of what he does, but not all of it. I actually agree with your unhappiness over these proposed changes, but complainiing here does nothing. So, if you have a web site set up where others of us can sign onto a petition asking for congress or some oversight organization to look into this, I would happily sign. Please understand that Bush has an entire country to be concerned about where we only have our lives and those things that impact us, so I dont criticize him personally for everything that some underling does. He probably has no idea these proposed changes are even contemplated, even though he should be made aware before they take effect. An internet petition or mail in campaign would ensure it is brought to his attention, and if he chose to ignore it then I would have to join you in calling him names. I hope your training went well today. I havent been to Athens since my daughter graduated from UGA a couple of years ago. Go Dawgs.
Justryany...I would love to see McCain in 08, as VP running mate for Joe Lieberman. Maybe with a couple of moderates like that we could get something done in this country. Nah, both parties will go for the radical fringe again.