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GrandCanyonWildflowr
12-22-2013, 11:42
Want to hammock. What do I need to get set up? Have a cheap hammock from campmor.
Rented in .GA & had a hard time finding a flat spot.
Any diy ideas for uq etc?
Tutorials or links?
Southeast
12-22-2013, 11:56
Check out hammockforums.net lots of info there
Want to hammock. What do I need to get set up? Have a cheap hammock from campmor.
Rented in .GA & had a hard time finding a flat spot.
Any diy ideas for uq etc?
Tutorials or links?
There's a Youtube video series by fellow called "Shug". Watch these videos first as they'll cover just about everything. Use what Shug says as the litmus test for everything else forum-dwellers tell you as there is a lot of chaff.
Tri-Pod Bob
12-22-2013, 15:03
I'll 2nd the Hammock Forums website & Shug's (also a Hammock Forums member) YouTube videos......a ton of knowledge there. There is also a good book by Ed Speer called "Hammock Camping" that has some good info. With these resources, you'll be hanging in comfort.
4eyedbuzzard
12-22-2013, 15:37
Want to hammock. What do I need to get set up? Have a cheap hammock from campmor.
Rented in .GA & had a hard time finding a flat spot.
Any diy ideas for uq etc?
Tutorials or links?
Definitely agree with joining hammockforums.net and Shug (if not just for the entertainment value), but expect a bit of a learning curve as they speak a foreign language with words like whoopie slings, structural ridgelines, different knots, and such. That said it is a great place to learn.
You don't need an underquilt for most 3 season hiking, a modified foam pad (like a 25" wide WM blue pad) will usually work okay for bottom insulation down to 40° - 50° depending on the wind and if you are a warm or cold sleeper. It needs to be wide enough in the shoulders to prevent the hammock from compressing your sleeping bag or top quilt. Most will tell you that UQ's are more comfortable though, but that having a pad gives you the ability to go to ground if necessary, so it's a trade off. Plenty of examples of all that on hammockforums too.
Can't say I understand the "had a hard time finding a flat spot" comment. One of the advantages of a hammock is that you can set it up on uneven terrain. All you need are two decent trees about 16 feet apart. Just don't fall down the hill when getting up to answer nature's call in the middle of the night ;) .
slbirdnerd
12-23-2013, 10:13
Can't say I understand the "had a hard time finding a flat spot" comment. One of the advantages of a hammock is that you can set it up on uneven terrain. All you need are two decent trees about 16 feet apart. Just don't fall down the hill when getting up to answer nature's call in the middle of the night ;) .
I think they meant they "tented" (not 'rented') in GA. Even then, there are decent campsites everywhere. If you don't end up hanging, get The AT guide and it lists a LOT of them.
lilricky
12-23-2013, 21:13
When you start with Shug's videos, start with part 1 in his "Hammock Hangin' How-To" series. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7NZVqpBUV0&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLB8752777861C2AA8)
4eyedbuzzard
12-24-2013, 03:02
I think they meant they "tented" (not 'rented') in GA. Even then, there are decent campsites everywhere. If you don't end up hanging, get The AT guide and it lists a LOT of them.DUH! I should have caught that from the context.
GrandCanyonWildflowr
12-25-2013, 19:21
Any thoughts on this? https://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___40690
Will it replace an underquilt?
Starchild
12-25-2013, 19:56
HYOH, and chose your own shelter, but no problem at all finding flat spots for tenting on the AT, well sometimes you may find yourself slid'ed down to one side of your tent, but really for over 2000 miles never has been a issue. That said many hammock hangers love their shelter.
lilricky
12-26-2013, 23:19
What you linked to is what Hammockforums folk call an SPE. It basically keeps a pad from slipping around the hammock. It wont keep you warm by itself, you'll need a pad to go with it. That being said, if you use a pad, as long as its rated for the temperature you're sleeping in, will work instead of an underquilt. Most hammockers start out with a pad, because of the cost of underquilts. Although after saving my pennies, I would never go back to pads! :)
Any thoughts on this? https://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___40690
Will it replace an underquilt?
GrandCanyonWildflowr
12-28-2013, 11:02
Thank you so much for the info. Its like a new language. Hiked four extra miles one day looking for a flat tent site.
ezdoesit
12-28-2013, 11:42
Any thoughts on this? https://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___40690
Will it replace an underquilt?
NO it will not
Any thoughts on this? https://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___40690
Will it replace an underquilt?
Have you watched Shug's video series? He covers that.
lilricky
12-28-2013, 12:52
Here is a link to Shug's 11-part Hammock how-to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7NZVqpBUV0&list=TL-IfVUnzmqP_eGg0jwSqPqahPR_yGzN_2
Shug is a former Barnum and Bailey's clown and is a professional entertainer, so his videos are both informative and entertaining.
NO it will not
Not sure why you're answering that so definitively. I used a SPE for a while and it was just fine in terms of bottom and side insulation. Of course, its used with a pad which is a little tricky to get right in a hammock. Both pad and UQ are bottom insulation, so I think the answer to the OPs question is YES, you can use this product (with a pad) instead of an UQ. For many folks starting out who already have pads for sleeping on the ground, this is the best use of funds. But UQ's are the way to go - start saving now.
mudsocks
01-26-2014, 01:33
To the original poster hammocks add an extra level of complexity to your shelter. If you don't sleep well on the ground a hammock could change your camping experience for the better. You have to be willing to experiment and spend a little money. I started out using the cheap CCF pad from wallyworld I bought for ground camping. It was an inexpensive way to test hammock camping. My first night in the hammock was fidgety but far more comfortable than sleeping on the ground. I eventually invested in an under quilt and continued using my sleeping bag for top insulation.
Not sure why you're answering that so definitively. I used a SPE for a while and it was just fine in terms of bottom and side insulation. Of course, its used with a pad which is a little tricky to get right in a hammock. Both pad and UQ are bottom insulation, so I think the answer to the OPs question is YES, you can use this product (with a pad) instead of an UQ. For many folks starting out who already have pads for sleeping on the ground, this is the best use of funds. But UQ's are the way to go - start saving now.
The SPE alone will not replace an underquilt. The SPE must be used in conjunction with a pad. It's not clear if the OP knows this or not. Also if the OP intends to use a hammock on the AT in early spring it's unlikely the SPE+ inexpensive CCF pad will provide sufficient warmth. Warmth is highly subjective. 45f is the very lower limit I can go with a cheap CCF pad + 15f top quilt and still get reasonable sleep.
Another resource is the book "The Ultimate Hang; An Illustrated Guide to Hammock Camping" by Derek Hansen. The companion website is http://theultimatehang.com, where there's lots of information available for free.
--Peter
I am a member of Hammock Forums and I would agree with the others start out by joining that forum all your questions will be answered, so much info on that site it's un real.. Shug videos is a must you will learn so much by watching his videos... Entertaining for sure!!!!! As far as UQ goes you can get dry down and your outer layer will or should have A DWR finish on it protecting u from condensation. I have never had an issue with condensation even when I did a coastal hike on the Pacific Northwest Coast. Again check out Hammockforums.com its a wonderful community to be part of... Just like White Blaze so much info on the AT...