Harriman Park winter hike soon [Archive]

1azarus

12-29-2013, 19:40

Hello all. You are welcome to join a group of hikers out for January 17-18-19 nights in Harriman park near bear mountain, New York. Mixed crowd - young/old, experienced winter hikers/new to snow, mileage focused and camp lovers. Pm me if interested! Shelters for some, tent a very good idea...

HikerMom58

12-29-2013, 20:57

Sounds like a fun time 1azarus... I wonder if T&S is still planning on going... I hope they go! :>)

Trip report & pics upon ur return, please! :)

1azarus

12-29-2013, 21:55

you betcha!!!

Feral Bill

12-29-2013, 21:56

I'll be with you in spirit. (My old stomping grounds and all)

Malto

12-29-2013, 22:27

I just hiked there yesterday. Great area. May have to join the fun.

Another Kevin

01-01-2014, 19:47

You know I'm coming. I sent around a request for a roll call in the other place, and didn't get some replies that I expected. Oh well, it'll get sorted.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-02-2014, 00:24

We're in. Let me know when on Fri you can meet us.

Driver8

01-02-2014, 01:49

I may be able to come for one of the days, possible Saturday. My work may demand otherwise. To be seen. ...

scudder

01-02-2014, 08:50

If you're up for it, I'd love to see a gear list . Would it be accurate to say lows could be close to zero?

1azarus

01-02-2014, 11:23

If you're up for it, I'd love to see a gear list . Would it be accurate to say lows could be close to zero?

not so bad on the weather -- although you do say "could be...". Average low for that time would be only 20 degrees, with record low of minus 9. split the difference between average low and record low and you get 5 degrees -- which is what i plan to be ready for before/until i see a real forecast.

i will gladly post my gear list after i put it together... likely later today. my list will be what others would call "stupid winter light." you may want to encourage others to post their likely more sane lists -- and i know other threads have winter gear list posts.

rocketsocks

01-02-2014, 11:30

not so bad on the weather -- although you do say "could be...". Average low for that time would be only 20 degrees, with record low of minus 9. split the difference between average low and record low and you get 5 degrees -- which is what i plan to be ready for before/until i see a real forecast.

i will gladly post my gear list after i put it together... likely later today. my list will be what others would call "stupid winter light." you may want to encourage others to post their likely more sane lists -- and i know other threads have winter gear list posts....and on the extreme other end of crazy weight, I may be bringing two sleeping bags, depending on the current local forecast.

as my bag is only rated for 15 degrees so that's like 25 really in my book.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-02-2014, 12:14

All I can say about my gear is that there are a lot of geese out there who gave their "last full measure of devotion" to keep Snacktime and me warm......

1azarus

01-02-2014, 13:12

so..... here it is. works for me, anyway.

Winter gear list -- to 5 degrees

Worn/carried:
New Balance Minimus trail runners
Superfeet inserts
Rocky goretex sock
Heavy weight mid-calf old school wool sock
Dirty girl gaiters
Capilene 4 patagonia bottoms
Capilene 4 hoody top
Ex oficio hiking shorts
Synthetic underwear
Patagonia synchilla gloves
Heavy weight wool sock over gloves if required (see clothing list)
Patagonia windshirt
Marino wool buff
Brooks baseball cap

Titanium women’s fixed length ski poles

Aqua mira with capped extra mix bottle
“wallet” with credit cards, license and money
Android phone in ziplock
Map in ziplock
Sling to carry water under windshirt
Sunglasses clip

In pack:
Gossamer gear mariposa without metal stay inserts
Silnylon pack cover
Plastic bag pack liner

Sleep system – nano hammock with whoopie sling suspension, tree straps, marlin spike
uninsulated Hammock fabric winter oversock

Warbonnet winter torso length underquilt (rarely worn under frogg togg pants in camp)
Warbonnet spinn tarp/4 titanium stakes
Gossamer gear foam sit pad for under feet in sleeping bag (also used as part of pack)
Mountain Hardware women’s Phantom 15 degree down bag (also worn under frogg togg jacket in camp) stowed loose in bottom of pack

Clothing – oversize frogg togg bottom and top, legs cut to correct length
E Vent rain overmittens
Marmot synthetic puffy pants and sweater
Spare pair extra heavy wool socks
Smartwool lightweight ankle height socks for sleepwear
All stowed loose in pack above sleeping bag and underquilt (no stuffbags...)

Cooking-- .6L titanium cookpot with lid, qiwiz firefly wood stove with esbit adapter, Vaseline cotton balls, 3 esbit tabs, 2 bic cigarette lighters. (all in Ziploc)

Miscellaneous in ziplock – headlamp, toilet tissue, hand sanitizer, 30 feet kite string, zip ties, duct tape, hydropel, single edged razor, plastic spoon, bacitracin, ibuprofen, pencil, 2 extra cellphone batteries, plastic newspaper bags (for “camp shoes” over goretex socks)

1 liter Poland spring eco-bottle
¾ liter plastic water bottle

Food: 1 ½ pounds per day

Snow shoes occasionally
microspikes usually
custom UL Fluke ukulele rarely

5 degree or so colder weather forecast:
add 1/8” foam wearable back and butt pad to sleep system
swap out breathable wind shirt for waterproof/vapor barrier shirt
bring down vest or sweater

all bets off below zero for this general approach

rude comments welcome.

HikerMom58

01-02-2014, 13:17

I'll be the first rude comment.... RUDE!!

Y'all are going to have fun!! I can't wait to hear all about it. rocketsocks is going.... say no more. :D

Teacher & Snacktime

01-02-2014, 13:53

So 1azarus.....I see no cheesecake or other delectable ....what are you bringing to the party?

1azarus

01-02-2014, 15:29

So 1azarus.....I see no cheesecake or other delectable ....what are you bringing to the party?

you mean, aside from my own grumpy self? i was hoping that rocket socks would bring his ukulele, and i was going to negotiate with him on how much chocolate i needed to bring for him so i could borrow it.

hmmmm. is this becoming a pot luck? do i need a hostess gift?

Traffic Jam

01-02-2014, 15:41

Is this a yearly event? If so, I'll put it on my calendar for next year. I usually do a road trip to Syracuse around that time but I won't be there 'till the 20th this year.

1azarus

01-02-2014, 15:53

Is this a yearly event? If so, I'll put it on my calendar for next year. I usually do a road trip to Syracuse around that time but I won't be there 'till the 20th this year.

I'd like to believe it is an annual event... so far just you and I have committed for next year! :) Seriously, if it turns out to be fun for the group, I would love to see it be every winter. the location might change a bit, but probably not too far north or south.

Malto

01-02-2014, 18:01

you mean, aside from my own grumpy self? i was hoping that rocket socks would bring his ukulele, and i was going to negotiate with him on how much chocolate i needed to bring for him so i could borrow it.

hmmmm. is this becoming a pot luck? do i need a hostess gift?

chocolate? I can handle that. Benefit of working for a candy company.

scudder

01-02-2014, 19:51

Thanks for posting the list. I'm glad you're not out there tonight- looks like you'll have some snow to play in when you go!

Teacher & Snacktime

01-02-2014, 21:00

We're camping in the cold.....we should all be committed.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-02-2014, 21:03

No requirement for the pot luck thing.....though it might be fun. Snacktime is making his fudge-filled PB cookies to pass around, and probably baggies of his GORP recipe for all....and of course a 2014 Trail Magic Bag for everyone. So I really need Kelvin to get me a head count.

LIhikers

01-02-2014, 21:27

Me, Kathy, and our dog are still planning to be there.
We'll arrive late Friday or early Saturday.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-02-2014, 22:32

Does your dog eat fudge-filled peanut butter cookies?

HikerMom58

01-02-2014, 22:41

Does your dog eat fudge-filled peanut butter cookies?

Teach... make some homemade dog treats. I can find you a good recipe, if you need one.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-03-2014, 00:00

I think Snacktime would enjoy doing that....whatcha got?

HikerMom58

01-03-2014, 10:58

I think Snacktime would enjoy doing that....whatcha got?

Hey Teach.. gotta run to Adkins to get a freezing cold hiker off the trail...I'll get back to ya.

coach lou

01-03-2014, 12:20

[QUOTE=Teacher & Snacktime;1830121]So 1azarus.....I see no cheesecake or other delectable ....what are you bringing to the party?[/QUOTE

Teach.....Overload isn't going , but her Cheesecake is! What nite is pot luck?

Driver8

01-03-2014, 12:30

We're camping in the cold.....we should all be committed.

What do you mean "we," Kemo Sabe. :D

If I can come, I'll bring a bowl of berries.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-03-2014, 12:33

How about Saturday? Of course, knowing there's going be such nummies available there's no chance that Kevin will be able to separate the group! Just as well....we can circle the tents like Connestoga wagons and take a united stand against the cold.

HikerMom58

01-03-2014, 12:53

Hey y'all heading out now... just had to post this story.

http://www.citizen-times.com/article/20140103/NEWS/140103017/Stranded-Smokies-hikers-treated-hypothermia

I know you guys won't be this unprepared on your hiking trip... so no worries!! :sun Love you guys.. wish I could hike with ya.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-03-2014, 15:11

Unsettling development here...we were heading to Harpers Ferry Wed to see Buddy Backpacker finish on the 9th, but there's a snow delay. It looks like there's a real possibility that we'll be driving in straight from WV to meet Kevin an Rocketsocks at Elk Pen!

rocketsocks

01-03-2014, 15:43

Unsettling development here...we were heading to Harpers Ferry Wed to see Buddy Backpacker finish on the 9th, but there's a snow delay. It looks like there's a real possibility that we'll be driving in straight from WV to meet Kevin an Rocketsocks at Elk Pen!
I'm telling ya teacher, I think you should get "Most Valuable Section Hiker" for 2013...

you did a ton of hikin last year...awesome!

Teacher & Snacktime

01-03-2014, 16:58

I'm telling ya teacher, I think you should get "Most Valuable Section Hiker" for 2013...

you did a ton of hikin last year...awesome!

Actually it's only been 87 AT miles since we started in Sept '12....but we've TRAVELLED thousands in our AT culture immersion! (although we did log over 400 total hiking miles)

Of course, the best part is meeting and visiting the WB friends we've made....more of that on this upcoming trip! (I can't imagine anything else that would persuade me to freeze my butt in the wilds of NY!)

rocketsocks

01-03-2014, 17:04

Actually it's only been 87 AT miles since we started in Sept '12....but we've TRAVELLED thousands in our AT culture immersion! (although we did log over 400 total hiking miles)

Of course, the best part is meeting and visiting the WB friends we've made....more of that on this upcoming trip! (I can't imagine anything else that would persuade me to freeze my butt in the wild of NY!)
It's Overloads/Lou's cheese cake...it brings all the critters out of the woods.25490

Teacher & Snacktime

01-03-2014, 17:07

good point

Bags4266

01-03-2014, 17:25

Myself and my girlfriend might be interested also. Depends on weather, my gear only goes to 15*. If colder than that we'll have to bail.

HikerMom58

01-03-2014, 17:35

It's Overloads/Lou's cheese cake...it brings all the critters out of the woods.25490

YUMMM!!! Her cheese cake is the BEST!

Wow.. more people are going!! Yipeee!!

http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/recipe/homemade-peanut-butter-and-banana-dog-treats

There's the dog treat recipe, but there might be others you like better than that one. :>)

Teacher & Snacktime

01-03-2014, 18:25

Myself and my girlfriend might be interested also. Depends on weather, my gear only goes to 15*. If colder than that we'll have to bail.

My gear is only good for 20*, but I've been assured that I won't be allowed to freeze...and that there will be multiple bailout opportunities. Contact Another Kevin or 1azarus.....come on down! (bring goodies)

Teacher & Snacktime

01-03-2014, 18:26

Thanks HM.....will give it a shot!

1azarus

01-05-2014, 11:54

... So GG might join us... We just need to encourage him to empty some of his inbox to make room for a new message...

Teacher & Snacktime

01-05-2014, 12:05

Gorgeous George? Gertrude Geppenheimer? Gerry Geriatric? Leslie Caron?

1azarus

01-05-2014, 12:19

When he empties his inbox we can ask what it stands for... Maybe he owns gossamer gear and is bringing free stuff for everyone at the gathering. I'm pretty sure that's it...

tiptoe

01-05-2014, 12:31

I may show up too, but only for one of the days. Otherwise the group would probably be dealing with a hypothermic me, and I'd hate to be the focus of attention. Will make up my mind closer to the date, based on weather conditions.

HikerMom58

01-05-2014, 13:00

I may show up too, but only for one of the days. Otherwise the group would probably be dealing with a hypothermic me, and I'd hate to be the focus of attention. Will make up my mind closer to the date, based on weather conditions.

Oh yeah, that would be me! :D

We all know what has to happen to the hypothermic person... Going for the sleeping bag ,"in the altogether", with someone else to get warmed up. :o

Y'all are funny!! :p Where's GG?

1azarus

01-05-2014, 13:37

You gotta book early for the reduced rate and the special promos.

Malto

01-05-2014, 13:50

Hey wait, I'm a GG. Is it me?

greg

Teacher & Snacktime

01-05-2014, 13:51

There might be a line at the noontime check-in at Elk Pen Friday. I'll try to have one of those "Take a Number" dispensers handy.

Another Kevin

01-07-2014, 00:37

Teacher - You see with all these "I might be there" and "can I come too?" postings where I have serious trouble getting a headcount? I've totally lost control of this situation!

Not that I was ever in control of it. Lazarus said that he wanted to organize a group for January, and asked me where I'd suggest going. Then he started going around telling everyone that I was leading. Well, he'll get all the organization you'd expect from that.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-07-2014, 03:54

Kelvin,

I don't know if I can be of much help to you, but going back to the original groups, the early post from the other cafe, and what's been said here, I have the following:

larzarus
Coach Lou (but not Overtime)
Sarcasm
Hikerboy (probably not)
Another Kevin
Rocketsocks
Snacktime
Teacher
Just Bill (I've messaged repeatedly w/ no response)
Moose717
CrazyB
imscotty
secondhand (cancelled)
Driver8 (uncertain)
LIHiker, wife Kathy & dog
tiptoe
Malto
Bags4266
GG

If there are any more, or changes or deletions mentioned in the cafe after I left, you'll have to note those. The names in red have said they plan to be at Elk Pen on Friday., though I don't know if Moose is planning to show up at noon, and LIHiker will be later or Sat.

Sixteen likely - I Hope this helps.

SEE POST #57 FOR UPDATE

HikerMom58

01-07-2014, 07:20

Teach comes to the rescue!! :) I think GG and Malto are one in the same!

I miss Just Bill.... JB- Pleeese come back. You are one of the BEST! We miss you!!

AK... you are awesome!!

1azarus

01-07-2014, 08:49

...it'll be worth coming just to see me sneak up behind Another Kevin and give him a big hug! and you can't herd cats, anyway... that's what i say.

10 day forecast shows us at just about average temps for the trip -- likely above freezing daytime and mid twenties nights... and not looking like any snow cover. It'll be like winter in Georgia on a good weekend :)...

and Abraham Lincoln didn't want to be president, did he?

aficion

01-07-2014, 08:50

I think Kelvin should change his name to Fahrenheit, or at least Celsius, or Centigrade, or something. I mean who uses
Kelvin anyway? Be serious.

coach lou

01-07-2014, 09:03

Teach....the Elf & I will also be at Elk Park on Friday!

G.G.

01-07-2014, 10:38

... So GG might join us... We just need to encourage him to empty some of his inbox to make room for a new message...

Delays, delays... I was at Disney on Ice with the family. Hopefully this outing won't be as bizarre tho I have my doubts.

Hope to be hiking in on fri. night but most likely sat.

Bags4266

01-07-2014, 12:50

Is there a time yet to meet at elk pen? Also for those who can't make that time is there a spot picked out yet for the first overnight? Thanks

Teacher & Snacktime

01-07-2014, 13:11

Elk Pen at noon Friday.....first overnight at Fingerboard shelter. This is the plan for the low and slow group, as it's about how far Snacktime and I can get in the available daylight. If you want your car moved elsewhere, let us know. Kelvin (aka Another Kevin) and I are planning to drop his car somewhere else and get back to my car at Elk Pen, so mass-shuttling and vehicle location begins then.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-07-2014, 13:16

Teach....the Elf & I will also be at Elk Park on Friday!

Gotcha Coach......noon also?

My thought is that Kelvin will have a map/list of the various parking/bailout points, and those of us gathered will buddy up and do some driving to those places to leave vehicles, then be shuttled back to Elk Pen to start the hike. We'll need to do cell phone # exchanges, etc at that point if anyone wants to be waited for at Elk Pen to hike with a group, etc.

Kelvin, is this what you had in mind? Sorry to intervene, but I can't help but organize!!!! (it's a compulsion)

Teacher & Snacktime

01-07-2014, 13:24

UPDATED

larzarus
Coach Lou (but not Overtime)
Sarcasm
Hikerboy (probably not)
Another Kevin
Rocketsocks
Snacktime
Teacher
Just Bill (I've messaged repeatedly w/ no response)
Moose717
CrazyB
imscotty
secondhand (cancelled)
Driver8 (uncertain)
LIHiker, wife Kathy & dog
tiptoe
Malto
Bags4266
GG

Kelvin will have a map/list of the various parking/bailout points, and those of us gathered will buddy up and do some driving to those places to leave vehicles, then be shuttled back to Elk Pen to start the hike.

We'll need to do cell phone # exchanges, etc at that point if anyone wants to be waited for at Elk Pen to hike with a group, etc.

Itinerary for the Low and Slow Group (individual mileage may vary):

Fri: Elk Pen to Fingerboard Shelter 3.7 mi
Sat: Fingerboard Shelter to Wm Brien Shelter 4.6 mi
Sun: Wm Brien Shelter to West Mtn. Shelter 3.6 mi
Mon: West Mtn. Shelter to Trailside Museum & Zoo (and Bear Mtn Pkg) 4.5 mi

There are several loop options for individuals to increase their hike lengths and still meet at the shelter in the evening....talk to Kevin.

coach lou

01-07-2014, 13:24

Gotcha Coach......noon also?

My thought is that Kelvin will have a map/list of the various parking/bailout points, and those of us gathered will buddy up and do some driving to those places to leave vehicles, then be shuttled back to Elk Pen to start the hike. We'll need to do cell phone # exchanges, etc at that point if anyone wants to be waited for at Elk Pen to hike with a group, etc.

Kelvin, is this what you had in mind? Sorry to intervene, but I can't help but organize!!!! (it's a compulsion)

There abouts......I'll call you in the AM after I pick up The Elf.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-07-2014, 14:01

Abraham Lincoln didn't want to be president, did he?

Lincoln did....William Howard Taft did not. (Wilson wasn't big on the idea either, but Taft was the victim of an ambitious wife. All he wanted to be was a Judge, and his proudest accomplishment was being named Chief Justice of the Supreme Court after his presidency.)

1azarus

01-07-2014, 16:05

so there is employment potential after serving as president? it would help us get some value out of that prolonged secret service protection!

Teacher & Snacktime

01-07-2014, 16:32

What secret service protection? Back then, they were pretty much on their own. But that's an interesting point....I'll research the degree of protection offered Prez's back in the day and let you know in Harriman.

Bags4266

01-07-2014, 21:48

Is there a itinerary yet for this trip? Is it a loop back to the parking lot? First day I see is to the fingerboard shelter. Whats after that? Just curious. Hoping for 25* or better nights, doesn't look promising though.

moose717

01-07-2014, 22:06

I'll be there at noon ... I have a 7 passenger mini van if we need to do some shuttling. I plan on going all 4 days, so if we have to leave my van at Bear Mountain or somewhere in the middle, I'm game. I'll probably get there before noon 'cause I'm always early, plus it's about 1.5 hour drive up the parkway for me. Not sure how the traffic will be.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-07-2014, 23:26

Is there a itinerary yet for this trip? Is it a loop back to the parking lot? First day I see is to the fingerboard shelter. Whats after that? Just curious. Hoping for 25* or better nights, doesn't look promising though.

See post #59....I updated with the basic itinerary that Snacktime and I plan to follow.....but we're seriously slow and like our mileage low.

LIhikers

01-08-2014, 01:17

Does your dog eat fudge-filled peanut butter cookies?

Nope, he dog doesn't get people food, but I'll eat enough for the both of us :)

Another Kevin

01-08-2014, 01:44

Gotcha Coach......noon also?

My thought is that Kelvin will have a map/list of the various parking/bailout points, and those of us gathered will buddy up and do some driving to those places to leave vehicles, then be shuttled back to Elk Pen to start the hike. We'll need to do cell phone # exchanges, etc at that point if anyone wants to be waited for at Elk Pen to hike with a group, etc.

Kelvin, is this what you had in mind? Sorry to intervene, but I can't help but organize!!!! (it's a compulsion)

Sounds about right. Given that everyone but Snacktime and the dogs is a grownup, I will *not* be responsible for herding them all, just directing those that want to take direction (which is a pretty small number, knowing hikers!).:)

coach lou

01-08-2014, 08:24

Which is the way it should be Kev. like I said a month ago, Friday, noonish at Elk Park....Friday nite...Fingerboard. Be there or be square!

Years ago, I would plan a group walk, make sure everyone was all set..........and then get all crazied cause stuff didn't go as planned. Really no need, as we are all adults.....who know they can deal with a winter walk.....or would not have even posted in any of these Harriman threads! Relax and get your gear straight!

I think I remember Askus3 wanting to day hike with us at some point!

HikerMom58

01-08-2014, 08:48

Which is the way it should be Kev. like I said a month ago, Friday, noonish at Elk Park....Friday nite...Fingerboard. Be there or be square!

Years ago, I would plan a group walk, make sure everyone was all set..........and then get all crazied cause stuff didn't go as planned. Really no need, as we are all adults.....who know they can deal with a winter walk.....or would not have even posted in any of these Harriman threads! Relax and get your gear straight!

I think I remember Askus3 wanting to day hike with us at some point!

Welp, I guess I'll be square then. :(

I wanna go too!! I'lll sprout me some wings.... Horns won't work will they? ;) Have a blast & take lots of pics!

coach lou

01-08-2014, 09:08

Welp, I guess I'll be square then. :(

I wanna go too!! I'lll sprout me some wings.... Horns won't work will they? ;) Have a blast & take lots of pics!

K....you know I would come down and get you , if i had the time!:)

HikerMom58

01-08-2014, 09:33

Aww... thanks Coach! :) That Overload cheesecake....it's worth the hike right there!

Teacher & Snacktime

01-08-2014, 10:04

Hmmmm....Mom....Snacktime and I will be in VA at FarmerChef's from Friday to Sunday.....want we should pick you up? You can come visit for a week or so.

Kelvin....I just figured you'd have some trail info for folks who want to venture, and parking info for those who want to move their cars. I agree that trying to "herd" the group would be nuts.

It's more like....we're there at noon and willing to help, or YOYO & hope to see you at some point.

Coach, I have no info about Askus3...where should I include him/her?

coach lou

01-08-2014, 11:28

Askus does shuttling in the general Metro area. he said something (in the other place) about showing up for a day hike, and would be available (at no cost), Sunday or Monday to give rides back to cars. But, if we see him fine, if not, fine.

HikerMom58

01-08-2014, 11:28

Hmmmm....Mom....Snacktime and I will be in VA at FarmerChef's from Friday to Sunday.....want we should pick you up? You can come visit for a week or so.

Kelvin....I just figured you'd have some trail info for folks who want to venture, and parking info for those who want to move their cars. I agree that trying to "herd" the group would be nuts.

It's more like....we're there at noon and willing to help, or YOYO & hope to see you at some point.

Coach, I have no info about Askus3...where should I include him/her?

Thanks for the offer, Teach. I don't think I could be away that long though. :( It's so cool how everyone's friendships have really "taken off",on here.

It makes me happy!! :)

Bags4266

01-12-2014, 12:22

I am watching the forecast, need 5more degrees for overnight lows or I'm going to bail. My equipment don't go down that low. On a positive note they have been increasing.

imscotty

01-12-2014, 13:02

I figure I should be good until 20 degrees with my sleep system. Friday and Saturday are looking good to me, just bringing some extra clothes and a pad to pile in my hammock. We will see how low I can go with that and if I stay for Sunday night. The predictions have been creeping up.

1azarus

01-12-2014, 14:01

Good point, weather watchers... Friday night should be the warmest, and that gives you the option to evaluate how well things are going and bail if necessary as the weekend progresses.

bigeyes

01-12-2014, 23:28

Hey all, I'm a newbie to multi-day hiking (but not to the outdoors or camping) and this is near me and seems awesome! I live in Brooklyn so hopefully one of the shuttling people can give me a lift both ways? I'm excited to meet ATers and ask questions!

Feral Bill

01-13-2014, 02:14

Hey all, I'm a newbie to multi-day hiking (but not to the outdoors or camping) and this is near me and seems awesome! I live in Brooklyn so hopefully one of the shuttling people can give me a lift both ways? I'm excited to meet ATers and ask questions!
I'm far away, sadly. You, however, can catch the bus direct to Arden NY from the Port Authority. For a new hiker from NYC you can't beat Harriman.

Vicariously yours,
F B

HikerMom58

01-13-2014, 07:33

I'm far away, sadly. You, however, can catch the bus direct to Arden NY from the Port Authority. For a new hiker from NYC you can't beat Harriman.

Vicariously yours,
F B

Yeah, FB.. I can only imagine the fun this group is going to have...:banana We want pics... lots of um! :D

1azarus

01-13-2014, 09:41

Would love to be able to help but am coming from the other direction... Someone else may jump in to help.. If not, let us know if the bus can work out.. That would be a significant part of the adventure!

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Teacher & Snacktime

01-13-2014, 11:03

Bigeyes....how close can you get? I know the Metro North has lines that run north, but am not sure precisely where. If you can get anywhere near BearMtn on Friday morning we'll pick you up, and can bring you home (or to a metro stop) Monday.

Also, everyone planning to be at Elk Pen at noon: Kevin and Snacktime and I will be at Bear Mtn at 11 to drop off a car, then head to Elk Pen for the noon start. If you want to park at one of the bailouts between those 2 points and be shuttled to Elk Pen, PM me with the details and the ph# you'll be using and we'll try to arrange it. You MUST be at the p/u location by 11 though (or keep in touch along the way) and we should have room for 2.

Update Bigeyes: I just checked the train maps and the Port Jervis Line has a Harriman Park Stop about 3 miles from Elk Pen.....don't know the details, but it looks promising.

1azarus

01-13-2014, 11:50

you are so kind, Teacher (& snacktime...).

I will be getting dropped off at elk pen at about 4:30 friday afternoon and walking, well, I guess they call that northbound. Just don't call me "late for dinner." :)

See you soon... oh, and the weather forecast is looking about perfect.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-13-2014, 11:53

I will be getting dropped off at elk pen at about 4:30 friday afternoon and walking, well, I guess they call that northbound. Just don't call me "late for dinner." :)

See you soon... oh, and the weather forecast is looking about perfect.

Your cookie will be waiting, along with a warm fire.

HikerMom58

01-13-2014, 12:09

you are so kind, Teacher (& snacktime...).

I will be getting dropped off at elk pen at about 4:30 friday afternoon and walking, well, I guess they call that northbound. Just don't call me "late for dinner." :)

See you soon... oh, and the weather forecast is looking about perfect.

AWESOME!! I'll be thinking of y'all and dreamin of being with ya.

Your cookie will be waiting, along with a warm fire.

You're the BEST!! So proud to be ur friend. I don't bake cookies & I suck at starting a fire but YOU are AMAZING!

Arranging to get Bigeyes too?? Yeah, that's our TEACHER & SNACKTIME!!.... Nothin but the BEST! :sun

Teacher & Snacktime

01-13-2014, 12:35

..........blush......just paying it forward, Mom

G.G.

01-13-2014, 15:38

PM'd bigeyes.

Not the most convenient, but ride option offered.

moose717

01-14-2014, 21:01

Bigeyes....how close can you get? I know the Metro North has lines that run north, but am not sure precisely where. If you can get anywhere near BearMtn on Friday morning we'll pick you up, and can bring you home (or to a metro stop) Monday.

Also, everyone planning to be at Elk Pen at noon: Kevin and Snacktime and I will be at Bear Mtn at 11 to drop off a car, then head to Elk Pen for the noon start. If you want to park at one of the bailouts between those 2 points and be shuttled to Elk Pen, PM me with the details and the ph# you'll be using and we'll try to arrange it. You MUST be at the p/u location by 11 though (or keep in touch along the way) and we should have room for 2.

Update Bigeyes: I just checked the train maps and the Port Jervis Line has a Harriman Park Stop about 3 miles from Elk Pen.....don't know the details, but it looks promising.

Do you think I'll have an issue getting back to my car from Bear Mtn? I offered earlier to leave my van at Bear Mountain and drive anyone back to their cars on Monday if needed. Let me know. Does anyone need a ride from "down the shore" or that area? I'm in Monmouth County, right off the GSP. I plan on being at Elk Pen at noon on Friday. I'm gettin' excited for this trip and meeting everyone!

Teacher & Snacktime

01-14-2014, 23:14

Do you think I'll have an issue getting back to my car from Bear Mtn? I offered earlier to leave my van at Bear Mountain and drive anyone back to their cars on Monday if needed. Let me know. Does anyone need a ride from "down the shore" or that area? I'm in Monmouth County, right off the GSP. I plan on being at Elk Pen at noon on Friday. I'm gettin' excited for this trip and meeting everyone!

There should be no problem, Moose. I think my car will be at Bear Mtn, and I or Kevin or somebody can get you back.

bigeyes

01-15-2014, 00:35

Both the rail and bus look promising, I just need to decide if I want to do the rail and have a 3 mile pre-hike, or do the bus and meet teach at bear mt before 11. I'll let y'all know tomorrow. Thanks everyone for being so helpful! I'll bring lots of food B] I hope you all like cheese and apples and stuff.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-15-2014, 01:29

If you take the Port Jervis line and get of at the Harriman stop it's just a couple of miles from Elk Pen....we'll pick you up there just before the noon meeting at Elk Pen. It will mean you have to wait a while (I think it gets in at 10:30 ish) It's entirely up to you which way you want to do it. I'll PM you my phone number and if you want us to fetch you just call in the morning sometime.

and we LOVE cheese and apples and stuff!

Askus3

01-15-2014, 01:38

So I can take 2 people from Bear Mt. to Elk Pen (NY 17) to meet and start hike. What time do you want me to meet at Bear Mt. If I could be of better service to pick 2 people up at Tuxedo or Harriman RR Station. That I can do also. Just tell me where and when and what 2 people need rides. I will hike with you Friday from 17 to Lake Tiorati as a day hike. look forward to meeting you folks. Send me an e-mail at [email protected] and I will give you my cell phone number.

Aaron Schoenberg (askus3)

Askus3

01-15-2014, 01:43

I see from the previous post that we are meeting at Elk Pen at 12 Noon. If you are coming by train from NY, if I haven't been already placed in service, I could pick you up at Tuxedo RR station and we could start hiking a bit earlier and they can catch up, so you don't have to hang around the RR station for almost 2 hours. I can also plan a slightly longer route so we could meet the group at Island Pond. So let me know how I could be of help. My dog will be with me and he is ready to jump, hike and play!

Teacher & Snacktime

01-15-2014, 10:16

Wow, Askus3....you just sent chills down my back. My nephew-in-law and his 2 sons are hikers (but out of PA), and his name is Aaron Schoeneberger. Would that not have been a ridiculous coincidence!

I'll PM Bigeyes....or you can....to make sure he gets the message of post #94 and can decide what he wants to do. Thanks for pitching in.....how many are in your party (so we're sure to have enough cookies)?

1azarus

01-15-2014, 10:23

i love it when people play so well together. see you all in a couple of days.

the weather is starting to look like winter-hike-dream perfect -- above freezing during the day, twenties at night, no significant snow but a pretty special effects snow squall for bragging rights.

Askus3

01-15-2014, 14:25

On Friday, I am free all day. My plan is for my wife (non-hiker) and I to drive 2 cars to Lake Tiorati. I will leave my car there. Then I can pick up 2 passnegers (my car seats 5, but my wife & I & dog take up 3 spaces) - wherever (Bear Mt., Tuxedo RR station, Harriman RR station, Sterling Forest bus stop). Then I will either start hiking from Sterling Forest end of County 106 or Elk Pen lot off of Arden Valley Road. I will hike to Lake Tiorati parking lot where my car is. I will be accompanied by my dog (shih-tzu) Trekker. So now I want to know where and when I should meet 2 people to give rides. If we choose to start hike at jct. 17A & 17, I could take Parker Cabin Hollow Trail to White Bar to Island Pond Road to Island Pond OR Wildcat Mt., Furnace Loop, Indian Hill to the AT above Agony Grind and then come down to Elk Pen and continue across to eventually pass island Pond & onward to Fingerboard. If we meet at Harriman RR station, we could take the Sapphire Trail to the AT and then eastward (northbound). Then hook up with others at Island Pond to Fingerboard. These options make longer full-day hikes. So I am agreeable to whatever people want me to do. Note: If the train comes in much earlier then noon, I would think rather than hang out at a train statiopn in the middle of nowhere, it makes more sense to spend the time hiking. Of course you could do the Harriman RR - Sapphire to AT option without needing a ride from me. So let me know what 2 people would want. If someone wished to have my services, please e-mail me [email protected] ([email protected])and I will supply you with my cell phone number.

tiptoe

01-15-2014, 15:02

Still thinking about showing up on Saturday, possibly driving to Tiorati Circle early and hiking up to Fingerboard Shelter to meet up, then hiking to William Brian shelter on the AT and back to Tiorati via the Ramapo-Dunderberg trail. Would that work, in terms of finding the group and spending some quality time? Does anyone have specific hikes planned for Saturday? Is anyone coming from Connecticut just for Saturday who might like to carpool? May or may not bring my husky, who is big, exuberant, and sheds. (Your car will never look the same.)

moose717

01-15-2014, 15:24

OK> Here are my plans for Friday and where I'm leaving my car. I'm meeting Teacher & Snacktime at Bear Mountain at 11:00 am. I am going to leave my van in Parking Lot #1 until Monday and will be able to shuttle anyone back to their cars. I called the Palisades Parks Conservancy -- 845-786-2701 to ask about parking. This is what they told me (in case anyone else hiking is going to park there): Register your vehicle with the park police at the number above, extension 208 and park in Lot #1. Since there will be no one in the "toll booth" when I drop my car, I won't have to pay the fee. If that's the case, I may just make a donation to the conservancy.

bigeyes

01-15-2014, 17:15

I emailed Askus about meeting at the RR harriman station, so I'm probably all set. One other thing-- Does anyone have a sleeping pad of any sort they can lend me or sell to me? I'm used to using boughs to make my beds, so I don't have one. Unless there are a lot of fir trees in this park???

hikerboy57

01-15-2014, 17:17

I emailed Askus about meeting at the RR harriman station, so I'm probably all set. One other thing-- Does anyone have a sleeping pad of any sort they can lend me or sell to me? I'm used to using boughs to make my beds, so I don't have one. Unless there are a lot of fir trees in this park???
mostly hardwoods around the shelters.

G.G.

01-15-2014, 17:38

I will be arriving late on fri. and heading to fingerboard via shortest possible parking / trail.

Anyone else walking in at night and want to connect, please do.

Feral Bill

01-15-2014, 21:02

. I will be accompanied by my dog (shih-tzu) Trekker. . Don't forget to have a muzzle on that fearsome beast, as per Harriman Park regulations.:-?

moose717

01-15-2014, 21:27

I emailed Askus about meeting at the RR harriman station, so I'm probably all set. One other thing-- Does anyone have a sleeping pad of any sort they can lend me or sell to me? I'm used to using boughs to make my beds, so I don't have one. Unless there are a lot of fir trees in this park???

I have a thermarest z-lite pad. It's the accordion style. I'm not sure how well they work in the cold. Actually, I have two of them if you want to borrow them -- as long as Teacher doesn't mind me bringing them in her car.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-15-2014, 21:44

No problem here, Moose....but not sure if it's my car or Kevin's that will be moving to Elk Pen. Either way, they don't take up much space!

moose717

01-15-2014, 22:08

No problem here, Moose....but not sure if it's my car or Kevin's that will be moving to Elk Pen. Either way, they don't take up much space!

cool beanz!

rocketsocks

01-16-2014, 00:36

There should be no problem, Moose. I think my car will be at Bear Mtn, and I or Kevin or somebody can get you back.
Yes, not to worry Moose, we'll make as many trips as needed to get everyone where they need to go...No Hiker Left Behind!

rocketsocks

01-16-2014, 00:39

Oops did double quote. Hi Teach, I'm planning on picking up Couch and Elf At BM, and heading to Elk Pen on Friday noon, so will see you there most likely, and whom ever else needs a ride.

Askus3

01-16-2014, 01:11

Since it looks like you are all fairly well situated with rides from Bear Mt., I spoke with Big Eyes and I am picking her up @9:20 am in Tuxedo. Then we are going to start a little further west and arrive at the Elk Pen around Noon and meet up with everyone else. I also have a Therma Rest pad to give her when I see her. See you folks.

LIhikers

01-16-2014, 01:11

My wife Kathy, me, and our 90 pound shepherd dog will meet the group at Fingerboard by parking at Tiorati Circle and hiking in.
We're just not sure if it will be Fri. night or crack of dawn Saturday. Our plan is to stay through Monday.
I'm looking forward to meeting other people who like to do crazy things too. :)

imscotty

01-16-2014, 01:18

OK> Here are my plans for Friday and where I'm leaving my car. I'm meeting Teacher & Snacktime at Bear Mountain at 11:00 am. I am going to leave my van in Parking Lot #1 until Monday and will be able to shuttle anyone back to their cars. I called the Palisades Parks Conservancy -- 845-786-2701 to ask about parking. This is what they told me (in case anyone else hiking is going to park there): Register your vehicle with the park police at the number above, extension 208 and park in Lot #1. Since there will be no one in the "toll booth" when I drop my car, I won't have to pay the fee. If that's the case, I may just make a donation to the conservancy.

@Moose: (or anyone who knows) Do you know if you also have to call that number to park at Elk Pen or Tiorati Circle? I will arrive a later than most of you on Friday and will leave my car at one of these lots. Hopefully I will be able to hitch a ride back from the Bear Mountain Inn.

Thank you,
Scott

Teacher & Snacktime

01-16-2014, 01:21

Don't worry Mr. Scott... someone will beam you back to your car.

Driver8

01-16-2014, 02:21

UPDATED

larzarus
Coach Lou (but not Overtime)
Sarcasm
Hikerboy (probably not)
Another Kevin
Rocketsocks
Snacktime
Teacher
Just Bill (I've messaged repeatedly w/ no response)
Moose717
CrazyB
imscotty
secondhand (cancelled)
Driver8 (uncertain)
LIHiker, wife Kathy & dog
tiptoe
Malto
Bags4266
GG

Kelvin will have a map/list of the various parking/bailout points, and those of us gathered will buddy up and do some driving to those places to leave vehicles, then be shuttled back to Elk Pen to start the hike.

We'll need to do cell phone # exchanges, etc at that point if anyone wants to be waited for at Elk Pen to hike with a group, etc.

Itinerary for the Low and Slow Group (individual mileage may vary):

Fri: Elk Pen to Fingerboard Shelter 3.7 mi
Sat: Fingerboard Shelter to Wm Brien Shelter 4.6 mi
Sun: Wm Brien Shelter to West Mtn. Shelter 3.6 mi
Mon: West Mtn. Shelter to Trailside Museum & Zoo (and Bear Mtn Pkg) 4.5 mi

There are several loop options for individuals to increase their hike lengths and still meet at the shelter in the evening....talk to Kevin.

Gonna have to miss this one. Buried in work. It's a good thing, but it do get in the way of taking a whole day for a hike. Can't have it all at the same time!

Hope y'all have a ball. :D

1azarus

01-16-2014, 07:54

Gonna have to miss this one. Buried in work. It's a good thing, but it do get in the way of taking a whole day for a hike. Can't have it all at the same time!

Hope y'all have a ball. :D

so glad to hear things are going well for you at work. we will miss you.

Feral Bill

01-16-2014, 11:00

Have a great trip one and all.

moose717

01-16-2014, 15:15

@Moose: (or anyone who knows) Do you know if you also have to call that number to park at Elk Pen or Tiorati Circle? I will arrive a later than most of you on Friday and will leave my car at one of these lots. Hopefully I will be able to hitch a ride back from the Bear Mountain Inn.

Thank you,
Scott
Hi Scotty .. the number I called was for Bear Mt. State Park. Won't help you. I've left my car at Tiorati Circle for an overnight, but that was during the summer. Maybe call the visitors center ... (845) 947-2444. There are several other people parking at Elk Pen ... I'm sure they will let you know about parking there.

tiptoe

01-16-2014, 16:57

I called the Palisades Interstate Park Commission at Bear Mountain (845-786-2701) this morning and was told that there are no parking fees now for day parking or overnight parking at the Tiorati parking area, and I think the person said at any of the other hiker parking areas. But you might want to confirm yourselves.

LIhikers

01-16-2014, 17:01

@Moose: (or anyone who knows) Do you know if you also have to call that number to park at Elk Pen or Tiorati Circle? I will arrive a later than most of you on Friday and will leave my car at one of these lots. Hopefully I will be able to hitch a ride back from the Bear Mountain Inn.

Thank you,
Scott

No, you do not have to call to park at Elk Pen or Tiorati Circle.
In fact you don't have to call to park at Bear Mountain but then you have to go inside to register with the park police.

coach lou

01-16-2014, 17:53

Sarcasm, 'Socks and I will see you folks at Elk Park around the appointed time. I will call teach if we are delayed for any reason. Fingerboard Friday nite.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-16-2014, 18:28

This is coming together quite nicely. Snacktime is outside right now trying out the "big" pack...52L as opposed to the 45L we've always used. Everything for this trip has upsized for him: clothes, sleeping bag, pack, boots. This is what happens when you turn 12!

moose717

01-16-2014, 18:28

No, you do not have to call to park at Elk Pen or Tiorati Circle.
In fact you don't have to call to park at Bear Mountain but then you have to go inside to register with the park police.

Or you can call the park police and register your car over the phone (for Bear Mtn). That's what I did this afternoon. 845-786-2701 ext 208

rocketsocks

01-16-2014, 19:03

Sarcasm, 'Socks and I will see you folks at Elk Park around the appointed time. I will call teach if we are delayed for any reason. Fingerboard Friday nite.
Sounds good, I'll give a buzz later, and in the morning when I get on the road.

Another Kevin

01-16-2014, 20:14

Bear Mtn around 1100! Wow, it looks as if this is on!

HikerMom58

01-16-2014, 20:38

No way... I find this thread tantalizing. :p

I want to hike with all the ones on this thread. You gotta be kidding me.. Moose717, Teach, Snacktime, Coach, Kelvin, Socks, 1azarus, beam me there- Scott... ;) The list goes on and on.....

You will have a great time... Socks around a campfire! :sun WHAT FUN!!

Teacher & Snacktime

01-16-2014, 21:26

Dear HikerMom,

Having a wonderful time at Harriman Camp. Wish you were here. The counselors say it's too cold to swim, but that we might be able to take in a nature hike. Apparently they're serving lemonade at this hike, as I overheard someone talking about a lemon squeezer. I prefer iced tea or pepsi, but if lemonade is all that's offered then I guess I'll be happy with that. Also, I think a hairdresser is coming along, as I heard a couple of guys talking about getting microspikes. All I know for sure is that somebody swears we'll have snacktime there, and that there will be cookies. I'm looking forward to it, and I'll be sure to send pictures and maybe even a postcard.

Your friend,

Teacher

HikerMom58

01-16-2014, 21:41

Dear HikerMom,

Having a wonderful time at Harriman Camp. Wish you were here. The counselors say it's too cold to swim, but that we might be able to take in a nature hike. Apparently they're serving lemonade at this hike, as I overheard someone talking about a lemon squeezer. I prefer iced tea or pepsi, but if lemonade is all that's offered then I guess I'll be happy with that. Also, I think a hairdresser is coming along, as I heard a couple of guys talking about getting microspikes. All I know for sure is that somebody swears we'll have snacktime there, and that there will be cookies. I'm looking forward to it, and I'll be sure to send pictures and maybe even a postcard.

Your friend,

Teacher

Aww, this is great!! :D

Dear Teacher,

I miss you so much. It seems like you've been gone for a long time.
Be sure to change your underwear everyday while you are at camp. Be sure to brush your teeth before bedtime too. :p
Be nice to the counselors and do what they ask of you. Don't forget to share with your friends. Play nice! I hope you won't get hurt going through the lemon squeezer. If you do, I hope you know where to find the camp nurse. Don't forget to wait an hour after you eat before you swimming, if the water warms up. Snacktime is good! Be sure to take lots of pictures. Give your fellow campers a hug for me. Write again soon.

Your friend,
HikerMom

Malto

01-16-2014, 23:05

I am packed and loaded. Full moon, maybe a bit of snow, mild temperatures. It doesn't get any better than this. I expect to be a fingerboard about 7:30. Hope to drag some firewood in, there won't be much near the shelter.

Driver8

01-17-2014, 03:51

so glad to hear things are going well for you at work. we will miss you.

Aw shucks, thanks Laz. It was so much fun meeting you, was it a year ago already, as well as Elf and others, and it's always a pleasure to hike with my buddy, Lou. Hope to meet up with you again soon, though you are so much faster than I that it's hard to keep up with you. I think you outpace most mortals out on trail. Hope the weekend goes well for you all!

tiptoe

01-18-2014, 12:48

I'm a no-show for today (Saturday). By the time I woke up, it was snowing a bit, and now it's snowing a lot. Big, heavy, wet snow, just this side of rain. Hope you all have a good hike.

HikerMom58

01-18-2014, 13:31

I'm a no-show for today (Saturday). By the time I woke up, it was snowing a bit, and now it's snowing a lot. Big, heavy, wet snow, just this side of rain. Hope you all have a good hike.

Wow... the group is really doing a winter hike! They know what they are doing out there so they will have a blast in the snow.

I hope the cheesecake didn't freeze! :p Thanks for the update tiptoe!

G.G.

01-18-2014, 20:37

Missed the group. Hope to connect tomorrow. Currently at west mtn shelter. It's boozers.

HikerMom58

01-18-2014, 20:56

Missed the group. Hope to connect tomorrow. Currently at west mtn shelter. It's boozers.

Well darn it... you missed them? I see where you are at West Mtn Shelter in the book..

Feral Bill

01-18-2014, 21:01

I trust all are standing around a fire sipping hot cocoa as I type. Can't wait for the trip report.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-18-2014, 22:24

G.G. keep looking for them! Rocketsocks has your trail magic bag!

Snacktime and I had to bail this morning....the pack weight was just too much for these old bones and starting to cause injury. We were so slow that we needed to be "rescued" in the cold and dark. Even so, our one day and night was a wonderful time, and it was great getting to see Rocketsocks, Kevin and Coach again, and to meet new friends Sarcasm, 1azarus, IMScotty, Moose717, LIHiker & Kathy, Askus, Bigeyes, and Malto.

HikerMom58

01-18-2014, 22:35

G.G. keep looking for them! Rocketsocks has your trail magic bag!

Snacktime and I had to bail this morning....the pack weight was just too much for these old bones and starting to cause injury. We we so slow that we needed to be "rescued" in the cold and dark. Even so, our one day and night was a wonderful time, and it was great getting to see Rocketsocks, Kevin and Coach again, and to meet new friends Sarcasm, 1azarus, IMScotty, Moose717, LIHiker & Kathy, Askus, Bigeyes, and Malto.

Oh okay... so good to hear from you Teach, I'm glad you had a good time and met up with everyone. :) So cool or cold- should I say?

VERY NICE!! :)

Malto

01-19-2014, 15:28

I trust all are standing around a fire sipping hot cocoa as I type. Can't wait for the trip report.

No, actually at that time most had just headed to bed. Rather chilly night but it is January. teacher, great meeting you guys. It was a great weekend to go hiking.

HikerMom58

01-19-2014, 15:46

No, actually at that time most had just headed to bed. Rather chilly night but it is January. teacher, great meeting you guys. It was a great weekend to go hiking.

Hey Malto... great to hear from you! :) Do you know if G.G found the group? I can't wait till I get up to that section. Looks like you can see the NY skyline at night? Is that right? Cool!

Teacher & Snacktime

01-19-2014, 16:22

I'm working on a journal entry with pics (in between watching the AFC East Championships)....should be done by this evening.

hikerboy57

01-19-2014, 16:23

Hey Malto... great to hear from you! :) Do you know if G.G found the group? I can't wait till I get up to that section. Looks like you can see the NY skyline at night? Is that right? Cool!
you can see it from west mtn shelter, right down the hudson. i dont believe you can see the skyline from the a.t itself, except maybe the summit of bear mtn.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-19-2014, 16:26

You were missed HB.....some day we'll get your magic bag to you!

hikerboy57

01-19-2014, 16:28

You were missed HB.....some day we'll get your magic bag to you!
thanks, teach. i spoke to lou last night, said its been a lotta fun.but hey, i gotta work to hike.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-19-2014, 16:32

Yeah....it's a PITA when reality gets in the way....

G.G.

01-19-2014, 16:33

I've bailed too. The better half sent out an sos. 2yr with ear infection, 6yr old and mother sick with flu / bug.

The stars were not aligned for me on this one.

hikerboy57

01-19-2014, 16:33

Yeah....it's a PITA when reality gets in the way....
now whatd i tell ya about planning too much?:)
how are you feeling, coach told me you might have hurt yourself going through the lemon squeezer

Teacher & Snacktime

01-19-2014, 16:36

Well, Rocketsocks, Snacktime and I plan to do it again...this time from Tiorati Circle to Bear Mtn.....when it's warmer and we won't need to lug so much. I fully intended to announce that when we decide some details for anyone who'd like to join us. Even though we were part of this for only a short time, it was great. Maybe you can make that one HB & GG? Maybe even HM!

tiptoe

01-19-2014, 16:41

I'll certainly try to make an appearance for a warm-weather get-together.

HikerMom58

01-19-2014, 16:44

you can see it from west mtn shelter, right down the hudson. i dont believe you can see the skyline from the a.t itself, except maybe the summit of bear mtn.

Thanks HB! :) I can't wait to get up there!! I googled West Mtn. Shelter last night, that's when I saw the Hudson River and the NY skyline view from that shelter. PRETTY! :0)

Teacher & Snacktime

01-19-2014, 16:47

Titptoe, you didn't make it either? Oh well....it looks like Socks was left holding the bag...the trail magic bag, that is. Hopefully he came across someone to give it to.

HikerMom58

01-19-2014, 16:47

I've bailed too. The better half sent out an sos. 2yr with ear infection, 6yr old and mother sick with flu / bug.

The stars were not aligned for me on this one.

I feel ya! I got the flu right now, myself. It's bad!! :(

Teacher & Snacktime

01-19-2014, 16:55

Sorry to hear you're sick HM...get well soon.

HikerMom58

01-19-2014, 17:01

Sorry to hear you're sick HM...get well soon.

Thanks Teach.. I'm so glad y'all had a good time while you could. It's all those great trail magic bags that got you weighed down! ;) You are one of the kindest, most thoughtful gals, I know. I'm not surprised that you would make sure everyone got something from you and Snacktime! :D

tiptoe

01-19-2014, 17:02

No, I didn't make it, Teacher, and I was really looking forward to meeting everyone. But I just couldn't see making a 50-mile drive in the snow with the dreaded "service engine soon" light on yet again just to hike on a slippery trail with a big wet dog and chat with folks in the sleet.

hikerboy57

01-19-2014, 17:34

Well, Rocketsocks, Snacktime and I plan to do it again...this time from Tiorati Circle to Bear Mtn.....when it's warmer and we won't need to lug so much. I fully intended to announce that when we decide some details for anyone who'd like to join us. Even though we were part of this for only a short time, it was great. Maybe you can make that one HB & GG? Maybe even HM!
honestly, im hoping ill be on the trail from april till the end of august.

Malto

01-19-2014, 17:44

you can see it from west mtn shelter, right down the hudson. i dont believe you can see the skyline from the a.t itself, except maybe the summit of bear mtn.

You can actually see the skyline from the ridge directly between Wm Brien shelter and the Palisades Hwy. I was able to see it at night on my way out two weeks ago and during the day on the return. Super cool.

hikerboy57

01-19-2014, 17:47

You can actually see the skyline from the ridge directly between Wm Brien shelter and the Palisades Hwy. I was able to see it at night on my way out two weeks ago and during the day on the return. Super cool.
been a while since i did that segment. there are quite a few places on other trails you can see the skyline. its pretty cool. i was also able to see it from bellvale mtn above greenwood lake, which coach lou and i hiked last week.

Malto

01-19-2014, 17:59

been a while since i did that segment. there are quite a few places on other trails you can see the skyline. its pretty cool. i was also able to see it from bellvale mtn above greenwood lake, which coach lou and i hiked last week.

I did that section a few weeks ago. I knew there was supposed to be a great view but never saw it. It must have been hazy that day.

HikerMom58

01-19-2014, 18:11

I did that section a few weeks ago. I knew there was supposed to be a great view but never saw it. It must have been hazy that day.

Malto... seriously, you hike all over the place in all seasons! :>) You missed the view cause you were hiking so fast! :p

I just saw a pic of a hiker (Elk) in the Class of 2014... at Mountain Crossing! Here they come... GO HB!!

Coach says you are going to do it!! I was just asking him if you would be making it to Daleville... DUh... Hellz Yeah! :)

Malto

01-19-2014, 20:05

Malto... seriously, you hike all over the place in all seasons! :>) You missed the view cause you were hiking so fast! :p

I just saw a pic of a hiker (Elk) in the Class of 2014... at Mountain Crossing! Here they come... GO HB!!

Coach says you are going to do it!! I was just asking him if you would be making it to Daleville... DUh... Hellz Yeah! :)

innocent, or at least not guilty this time. I was actually watching for that view and my speed on that section was down a bit due to ice.

HikerMom58

01-19-2014, 21:15

innocent, or at least not guilty this time. I was actually watching for that view and my speed on that section was down a bit due to ice.

Okay... I believe ya! ;) Malto- you are one tall dude!! I just saw the pics that Teacher posted of the hike! :D

HikerMom58

01-19-2014, 21:20

Where is everyone else now? Are they still hiking?

Teacher & Snacktime

01-19-2014, 21:55

As far as I know Mom, they are at West Mtn Shelter tonight and planning to finish at Bear Mtn tomorrow. If it's clear enough they might be enjoying that skyline as we speak..or type.

Malto

01-19-2014, 22:16

Sounds like most if not all headed out today.

HikerMom58

01-19-2014, 22:43

As far as I know Mom, they are at West Mtn Shelter tonight and planning to finish at Bear Mtn tomorrow. If it's clear enough they might be enjoying that skyline as we speak..or type.

Got ya! Well, I can't wait for our hiking trip in the warm south, this Spring. I don't know how Deer Hunter and other true Southerns would deal with a "real winter"!! LOL ;) We might not see the cool NYC skyline but we have great weather!! (crossing fingers and toes) It's quite cool here today.. But, no snow! :sun

Sounds like most if not all headed out today.

Well, looks like from the pics y'all had a good time! It's cool that so many of you could get together for a hike!

moose717

01-19-2014, 22:55

It was a great trip! Everyone was fun, funny, nice & I'm so happy I went! I'm glad everything worked out for everyone. Teacher ... you missed the cheesecake!

HikerMom58

01-19-2014, 23:03

It was a great trip! Everyone was fun, funny, nice & I'm so happy I went! I'm glad everything worked out for everyone. Teacher ... you missed the cheesecake!

Awesome moose717.. glad you had a good time! :) Be sure to look me up when you come to VA. :)

Malto

01-19-2014, 23:05

It was a great trip! Everyone was fun, funny, nice & I'm so happy I went! I'm glad everything worked out for everyone. Teacher ... you missed the cheesecake!

Hey moose, you're on fire!

Teacher & Snacktime

01-19-2014, 23:14

Moose, I know....I can't believe I didn't mooch a piece before Snacktime and I left! Did you catch fire? Is there a joke in there? If you do head VA way, let me know.....you, me and HikerMom can paint the Roanoke mts red!

rocketsocks

01-20-2014, 01:08

Hi folks, just a few picks of the trip. I'm beat, and off to bed, twas a great tip! :)

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Askus3

01-20-2014, 01:51

I just want to let you all know that altho I did not spend much time with most of you, Trekker & I (askus3) had a great hike. However, we are dayhikers and I did not bring a light and knew i had to get out by 5 PM. So it was nice seeing everyone at Elk Pen. Enjoyed my hike with Big Eye and later on going thru the Lemon Squeezer with both Moose & Big Eyes. But at the LP/AT xing, I really had to move out, said our good byes to Moose & Big Eyes (Trekker gave a parting bark) and we took off. Glad the two of them were together when I departed as I was comfortable they would be OK. Stopped at Fingerboard Shelter and had a pleasant chat with Coach Lou and made it out to Tiorati at 4:50 PM. Trekker was one happy furry mess and had a nice warm shower and brushing when he got home only to play in the the snow on Saturday and he is that one big fuzzball again!

HikerMom58

01-20-2014, 07:37

Hi folks, just a few picks of the trip. I'm beat, and off to bed, twas a great tip! :)

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Really good pic RS! Thanks for posting! Teacher has some pics up on FB...The Elf doesn't look anything like his avatar Elf. :D There's some really good pics of you RS! ;>) I'm glad you guys had fun! It looked very cold but fun!

Another Kevin

01-20-2014, 11:26

Good morning! It was nice meeting you all: Malto, 1azarus, askus, Trekker, Big Eyes, Teacher & Snacktime, Elf, Socks, Coach, Moose, LIHikers (Mr, Mrs, and Tora) Scotty. GG, sorry we never managed to hook up! Four of us hiked up to West Mountain, but nobody wanted to camp on the ridge in that gale.

URL for the site is in the trail register at the Palisades. (What? No register books at the shelters?)

A particular shout-out to Malto, 1azarus, Dave, Scotty and LIHikers for attending to T&S. That could have been ugly. All's well that ends well, and you guys made it end well.

Another Kevin

01-20-2014, 11:34

Got ya! Well, I can't wait for our hiking trip in the warm south, this Spring. I don't know how Deer Hunter and other true Southerns would deal with a "real winter"!! LOL ;) We might not see the cool NYC skyline but we have great weather!! (crossing fingers and toes) It's quite cool here today.. But, no snow! :sun

Well, looks like from the pics y'all had a good time! It's cool that so many of you could get together for a hike!

The snivel meter on my pack said 18F at 4am on Sunday morning. I'm sure it was a few degrees colder by dawn. I had ice in my moustache all day Sunday.

Part of the reason for cutting the trip short was that nobody was all that eager to stay at West Mountain - in spite of the spectacular view. It was blowing a gale up there - straight into the open side of the shelter. It looked to be a chilly night.

I think my count was thirteen humans (plus GG, whom we never quite managed to meet) and two dogs. Nice to have faces to put to all the names.

LIhikers

01-20-2014, 12:07

Our thanks to whoever organized this trip. Me, Kathy, and our dog Tora had a great time. The hiking was good but the hikers were even better.
Maybe we can explore the east side of the park in warmer weather.

bigeyes

01-20-2014, 12:19

Wonderful to meet and hike with all of you! After leaving the Brian shelter on Sunday morning, I hiked the AT to the Hudson River and got there before 3! And I met someone on the way from my area to give me a lift. Everything worked out great. I hope that everyone who stayed Sunday night was more comfortable than Saturday night!

HikerMom58

01-20-2014, 12:35

The snivel meter on my pack said 18F at 4am on Sunday morning. I'm sure it was a few degrees colder by dawn. I had ice in my moustache all day Sunday.

Part of the reason for cutting the trip short was that nobody was all that eager to stay at West Mountain - in spite of the spectacular view. It was blowing a gale up there - straight into the open side of the shelter. It looked to be a chilly night.

I think my count was thirteen humans (plus GG, whom we never quite managed to meet) and two dogs. Nice to have faces to put to all the names.

Wow, AK that's sounds frigid!! Ice in the ole mustache'? ... yeah that's cold. ;) I saw some pics that Teacher put up! Y'all looked GREAT out there. I saw that West Mountain Shelter was up on the highest elevation point along that piece of the trail. Good call! :)

Teacher said "her story" would be considered "hair curling". :eek: I can't imagine! But you know, I never worried once about Teach & Snacktime out there hiking, with friends like you guys. I knew everyone would be cared for in every possible way. Sounds like a "rescue" of some description was in order for them this trip. Teach is an amazing woman! I admire her so very much! THANK YOU AK, and all the others,from the bottom of my heart, for everything you guys did to keep everyone safe. *HUGS*

I'm so happy about all the people that were able to make it out on this trip.... 13 humans!! ;) Askus3's dog looked so cute!

We were back here on WB anxiously waiting to hear about the trip and thinking about you! :)

HAPPY MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY!! ENJOY! :sun

imscotty

01-20-2014, 12:43

Thank you to this motley crew of hikers for being so welcoming and creating such a good time. Got back early this morning and enjoyed a long hot shower! I thought that Harriman was beautiful and look forward to hiking it again some summer or fall :)

@ Teacher & Snacktime: Thnk you very much for your thoughtful bag of trail magic. Wow, they don't call you 'Snacktime' for nothin!

Scott

Teacher & Snacktime

01-20-2014, 12:55

Hey Kevin, I gave a shout out of thanks for the rescue crew on FB, and fully plan to do the same here. You guys were amazing, and I literally get teary thinking about how caring everyone was. Thanks for you and Sarcasm for hanging with the slowpokes then coming back for us, thanks to 1az, Malto and Scotty for retrieving packs and toting our heavy load. Thank you for a dinner that I only wish I'd felt well enough to eat. Thanks to LIHiker and Kathy for the escort and shuttle back to the car.

This journal will be tough, and wonderful, to write.

Deer Hunter

01-20-2014, 13:47

Got ya! Well, I can't wait for our hiking trip in the warm south, this Spring. I don't know how Deer Hunter and other true Southerns would deal with a "real winter"!! LOL ;) We might not see the cool NYC skyline but we have great weather!! (crossing fingers and toes) It's quite cool here today.. But, no snow! :sun

Well, looks like from the pics y'all had a good time! It's cool that so many of you could get together for a hike!

I have to agree on the weather. I have visited lots of nice places but I like the balance Virginia provides climate wise. :)

Deer Hunter

01-20-2014, 14:02

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Thanks for the pics, socks. Good to hear from ya. :)

Teacher & Snacktime

01-20-2014, 23:14

Our photos are in the gallery here, and also on Snacktime's FB page... https://www.facebook.com/EddiesChallengeII?ref=hl anyone else have any fb posts?

Teacher & Snacktime

01-20-2014, 23:26

now whatd i tell ya about planning too much?:)
how are you feeling, coach told me you might have hurt yourself going through the lemon squeezer

Actually the Lemon Squeezer wasn't that big a problem....it took a lot of effort, and was quite tiring, but no hurt there. The injury came when I got too tired to handle my own pack weight....my knee popped when I tried to lift the pack to move it to a better position and wait for Kevin and Dave to "rescue" us. It's ok though. The real nemesis was the overall fatigue. I was fine after a good night's sleep.

I only did enough "planning" to get everybody there.....and not enough to get myself truly prepared. Oh well. But Snacktime did great! He managed his pack like a pro.

tiptoe

01-21-2014, 10:16

Hope your knee heals quickly, Teacher.

hikerboy57

01-21-2014, 10:25

Actually the Lemon Squeezer wasn't that big a problem....it took a lot of effort, and was quite tiring, but no hurt there. The injury came when I got too tired to handle my own pack weight....my knee popped when I tried to lift the pack to move it to a better position and wait for Kevin and Dave to "rescue" us. It's ok though. The real nemesis was the overall fatigue. I was fine after a good night's sleep.

I only did enough "planning" to get everybody there.....and not enough to get myself truly prepared. Oh well. But Snacktime did great! He managed his pack like a pro.
still it looks like it was a great time, and i'm so glad the boys were able to help you out.hope you heal quickly. i'm counting on meeting you at some point this year.

Teacher & Snacktime

01-21-2014, 11:34

Yep....that's the plan. (of course it was our plan last year too, and STILL we haven't managed to get together)...If nothing else, perhaps we'll meet at Trail Days.

LIhikers

01-21-2014, 15:43

Wonderful to meet and hike with all of you! After leaving the Brian shelter on Sunday morning, I hiked the AT to the Hudson River and got there before 3! And I met someone on the way from my area to give me a lift. Everything worked out great. I hope that everyone who stayed Sunday night was more comfortable than Saturday night!

That worked out even better than you were hoping for. Glad that you made it safe and sound.

Trillium

01-27-2014, 12:40

Our photos are in the gallery here, and also on Snacktime's FB page... https://www.facebook.com/EddiesChallengeII?ref=hl anyone else have any fb posts?
Hi Teacher, I don't do facebook so I was very glad that you also posted your photos here on WB. I enjoyed seeing them! Best to you and Snacktime!

Teacher & Snacktime

01-27-2014, 13:28

Thanks Trillium. I'm still working on that trip report too! This one has been amazingly difficult to write....so "many thank yous", such a wonderful experience. Hopefully I can do it justice....eventually. (and I can't wait to get a second crack at Harriman!)