View Full Version : The crazy folks are selling again!
waterman1148
02-09-2014, 19:42
Notice they didn't show pics of the house!
http://bham.en.craigslist.org/for/4287092238.html
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Hill Ape
02-09-2014, 20:07
nice land, $ per acre is good, even worth it without a house on it... why are they crazy? am i missing something
Crazy Folks = Trig and Alice?
http://www.alabamatrail.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=342
Camping at Talladega Creek (http://www.alabamatrail.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=342#p1760)
http://www.alabamatrail.org/forum/styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_post_target.gif (http://www.alabamatrail.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1760&sid=1ba84c23f2f78b919e7db171c77c7201#p1760)by jaybird (http://www.alabamatrail.org/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=86&sid=1ba84c23f2f78b919e7db171c77c7201) » Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:01 pm
I met a wonderful couple this weekend, Trig (short for Trigonometry) and Alice, who own the Red Wagon Retreat beside the bridge at Talladega Creek. Trig is a tall Nordish guy, originally from Oslo, Norway. He and Alice own all of the land on both sides of the bridge (surrounded on all 4 sides by National Forest) and have dedicated their land as a Forest Farm and Nature Preserve. Tent campsites on the northeast side of the bridge bordering the creek are available for $5 per night (including firewood!) 256-362-2592. There's even an outhouse on the back portion of the campground.
Trig and Alice also encourage hikers, kayakers, canoeists, etc. to park in the area right across from their home and lodge. A small collection box in the lot is filled with envelopes encouraging a $2 donation. To have my truck watched all day while I hiked -- what a bargain!
Trig and Alice are still adding to their home and lodge beside the railroad tracks and are even adding a real trading post. Alice shared with me her desire to trade an abundance of eggs (from her hens) for goat's milk. Their trading post will have no memberships, but merely a system to trade and barter with others. What a refreshing antidote to the Wal-Martization of America!!!!!!!!!
Trig and Alice are to be commended for their cleanup of the many garbage dumps on their property. They have hauled away countless truckloads of metal, furniture, and just plain garbage. You may remember a few years back when medical waste from a large hospital in the Birmingham-Anniston area was found discarded. This waste was on Trig and Alice's property.
Next time you're through the area, stop and thank this couple for all the work they've done to make the area a better one for outdoor enthusiasts.
Red Wagon Retreat
600 Skyline Drive
Chandler Springs, AL
256-362-2592
http://www.pinhotitrailalliance.org/005-tg.html
Look for the Red Wagon Retreat on the right just before the bridge. Campsites and
firewood for $5 per night at the old CCC Campground. Day or overnight parking for a $2
donation. Trig and Alice are very hiker friendly!
Red Wagon Retreat
600 Skyline Drive
Chandler Springs, AL
256-362-2592
Yeah.. Looks like they still own it.
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waterman1148
02-09-2014, 21:30
I think they were nice at one time.....seems like I remember someone on Alatrails saying they split up and him trying to kill her....
They didn't like us getting water from "their" creek last March and the place was absolutely trashed then and a few months ago.
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waterman1148
02-09-2014, 21:33
Crazy Folks = Trig and Alice?
I remember reading that too. I was surprised when we went through there.
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ams212001
02-09-2014, 21:38
I'm confused as to what this post is about. Are you trying to help them sell or are you making a statement that they are up to something sinister?
Probably just conversation among the Pinhoti regulars. Nothing to be alarmed about.
waterman1148
02-09-2014, 21:55
I'm confused as to what this post is about. Are you trying to help them sell or are you making a statement that they are up to something sinister?
Neither. You'd have to hike through the middle of the place to understand. It's a dump, and they want hikers to stay there. Besides the fact that they think they own the damn creek that a county road crosses. The road splits their property. The pinhoti is a road walk through there, she came out yelling at us for getting water out of the creek(we never left the county right of way).
This post was mainly ment for pinhoti hikers who know the area.
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waterman1148
02-09-2014, 21:56
Probably just conversation among the Pinhoti regulars. Nothing to be alarmed about.
Right on brother!
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atmilkman
02-09-2014, 22:25
Went through there May of 2012. Got water out of the creek. Would have stayed but never saw a soul. Will be going through again this year either late May or early June. Probably try and stay again if somebody's around.
Notice they didn't show pics of the house!
House pics here. http://www.weichert.com/m/propertydetails.aspx?p=48129395
http://wdcimagestorageprodeast.blob.core.windows.net/mls158/Web/569264_1.jpg
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blisterbob
02-10-2014, 08:47
I talked with Alice a couple times and she was paranoid and delusional IMO.
$3125. per acre is a little steep compared to other property in the area.
I place no value on the house or buildings.
The biggest drawback is the Railroad track and the 20 or so trains that go by every day.
If a property owner owns both sides of a flowing stream they have control of access to that stream
except for those navigating through it that do not touch the banks.
If a property owner owns both sides of a flowing stream they have control of access to that stream
except for those navigating through it that do not touch the banks.
Is that what the law says in Alabama? I know some states waterways are in the public domain and its legal to camp anywhere below the high water line, which means anybody can access the bank.
blisterbob
02-10-2014, 12:04
I learned about this from property I owned in Indiana and it applies to 'navigable waterways'
and that is defined as any flowing stream regardless of size.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Navigable+Waters
marti038
02-10-2014, 12:51
I'm pretty sure blister bob is right. Even on public lakes in Alabama the size of your land technically varies based on lake level, although there are a lot of rules about what you can and can't do close to the shore. One thing you can definitely do is restrict access to your shoreline.
Of course, in the case written about above, the question is more about right of way from the road than approaching the creek from the middle of their property. I would bet anyone can legally access the stream from the public bridge.
waterman1148
02-10-2014, 13:48
I talked with Alice a couple times and she was paranoid and delusional IMO.
$3125. per acre is a little steep compared to other property in the area.
I place no value on the house or buildings.
The biggest drawback is the Railroad track and the 20 or so trains that go by ever day.
If a property owner owns both sides of a flowing stream they have control of access to that stream
except for those navigating through it that do not touch the banks.
You are right to an extent, we were on county right of way. That's not a private road. Hugged the bridge on the way down the bank because of what I'd read about them.
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waterman1148
02-10-2014, 13:51
Regardless of her level of sanity....I wish I had the money to buy the place! Of course the house would have to go.
Anybody else notice how much the price went up from the link that Matt65 posted?
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blisterbob
02-10-2014, 13:56
FYI- If you walk west 1/4 mile on the CR on the N. side of the bridge there is an iron pipe coming out of the rock
face beside the rd. that runs fresh spring water year round that you don't need to filter.:)
waterman1148
02-11-2014, 08:49
FYI- If you walk west 1/4 mile on the CR on the N. side of the bridge there is an iron pipe coming out of the rock
face beside the rd. that runs fresh spring water year round that you don't need to filter.:)
Nice to know that. Thanks BB!
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ednotmilkman
02-11-2014, 23:49
I wonder what AL Forever Wild or The Nature Conservancy would think of this property? Anybody know if they consider small parcels like this, and who to ask?
Hill Ape
02-12-2014, 01:08
dont mean to hijack the thread (such as it is) but alot of bama folks on this thread. i'm shopping for an acre in the south for my father who is about to retire. is there good rural land around talledaga, unrestricted, mobile home ok while owner building a cabin? any suggestions on towns to look at? proximity to the woods is always awesome.
for some reason, ancient history, he doesn't want to go back to ellijay, some sort of skeleton i've never known about.
blisterbob
02-12-2014, 08:21
I see a lot of this Realtor's signs around the area.
Mobile homes OK in rural Clay and most other counties.
My nephew got on their mailing list 3 years back and is still getting listings.
http://www.alalandco.com/or2/index.php
marti038
02-12-2014, 09:59
mobile home ok while owner building a cabin?
The mobile home would be okay, but if you build a cabin the neighbors might take your dad for kind of snobby. This would be especially true in Lee County.
blisterbob
02-12-2014, 11:11
The mobile home would be okay, but if you build a cabin the neighbors might take your dad for kind of snobby. This would be especially true in Lee County.
Still upset over the game, HUH?
marti038
02-12-2014, 12:51
Still upset over the game, HUH?
Every day is a step closer to recovery.
Hill Ape
02-12-2014, 14:18
lee county sounds about right then
waterman1148
02-12-2014, 19:27
dont mean to hijack the thread (such as it is) but alot of bama folks on this thread. i'm shopping for an acre in the south for my father who is about to retire. is there good rural land around talledaga, unrestricted, mobile home ok while owner building a cabin? any suggestions on towns to look at? proximity to the woods is always awesome.
for some reason, ancient history, he doesn't want to go back to ellijay, some sort of skeleton i've never known about.
Def stay out of Shelby county. Land prices are stupid here. Glad I found mine when I did! He should be ok anywhere in central Alabama with a mobile home.
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