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neo
09-25-2005, 21:33
here are a couple pics posted by white blaze member greymane
has any body here on wb seen or heard of more mountain lions
:cool: neo

MOWGLI
09-25-2005, 21:41
here are a couple pics posted by white blaze member greymane
has any body here on wb seen or heard of more mountain lions
:cool: neo


They are not from New York - but from out west.

neo
09-25-2005, 21:46
They are not from New York - but from out west.
they migrated to ny jeffery:cool: neo

MOWGLI
09-25-2005, 21:53
they migrated to ny jeffery:cool: neo

From a different thread;


Not only were they claimed to have come from Hornell, NY - but also Maine. Here's an article from a Maine newspaper explaining the hoax;

Experts say cougar photos a hoax

By Marci Hait
[email protected]


YORK - According to Maine state biologists and an organization which tracks mountain lion spottings around the country, the "infamous deck photos" of a cougar prowling around a residential neighborhood are a hoax.
They are real photographs, said Cougar Network Co-founder Mark Dowling, but they were taken no where near southern Maine.

"The photos are authentic, but the incident occurred in Lander, Wyoming, not Maine," said Dowling. "Nothing happened during the visit and the cougar left on its own."

Local Animal Control Officer Tom Porter said he learned the circulating pictures were fraudulent when he was contacted by Eliot/Kittery Animal Control Officer Bob Gagne late last week. When the photos began to travel via e-mail, at least one claim said they were taken on Beech Road in Eliot.

"Apparently he talked to the state biologist ... There were a few chuckles about it but that’s about it," he said.

State biologist Phil Bozenhard, who is stationed out of Gray, could not be reached for comment as of press time.

However, Dowling said Bozenhard was probably aware the photographs were not taken in this area because a number of such hoaxes occur each year.

"The Cougar Network has been sent these photos well over a dozen times, along with claims they were taken in various eastern states like New York and Maine," he said.

Dowling said in addition to the three images of a mountain lion peeping through a glass door and creeping around someone’s deck, there are also other fictitious photos popping up around the country.

"One is a trail photo of a California cougar stalking a black-tailed deer, the other is a photo of a man holding an enormous cougar shot in Washington state," said Dowling, adding that there are also three hoax videos circulating in Michigan. "Their stories have resulted in ‘cougar paranoia’ among citizens and resulted in the lock-down of several schools in the Detroit area."

Dowling said his group, which is "a nonprofit research organization dedicated to relationships and the role of cougars in ecosystems," with a special focus on expanding populations, does not believe there is a "remnant population" of cougars in Maine.

If there were cougars that were reproducing and thriving in the wild in this area, it is "inevitable and unavoidable" that residents would find their carcasses owing to incidental snaring, car and motorcycle accidents and starvation.

"The cats documented there (in Maine) are almost certainly of captive origin, as thousands of these animals are in private hands throughout North America," said Dowling. "Anywhere these animals live in proximity to humans, cougar carcasses are recovered on a regular basis."

To learn about the Cougar Network and view its research, visit www.cougarnet.org.

TwoForty
09-25-2005, 22:31
Aw, I was kind of hoping they were making a comeback. Some rangers in the smokies think they are.

stupe
09-26-2005, 10:32
Cheer up, NEO. There's some evidence in the form of tracks, feces and eyewitnesses that there may be a couger or two in New Enland, The authorities think they ( or it ) might be pets that were released or escaped.
Apparently, coyotes made it all the way east through Canada, I guess the cougers could have done the same thing.

Newb
09-26-2005, 14:40
I think it was just looking for a saucer of milk and a hug. Poor kitty.

stupe
09-26-2005, 18:27
"New York has had significant cougar sighting activity, particularly in the Adirondack region of northern New York. Three very credible sightings have been by New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) personnel. Accounts of these events can be found here. In addition, one cougar killed deer was identified by a DEC biologist in 1993. Click here to read DEC memo and pictures of this incident."
http://www.easterncougarnet.org/northeast.html
It's a pretty cool site. I didn't know that we had reputable sightings here in the Empire State. It may help cull the herd of a zillion billion deer that we have here, downstate. And they think they're breeding in Vermont.

Jack Tarlin
09-26-2005, 18:37
It is pretty widely accepted by folks living in the wilder parts of Vermont and New Hampshire that the Eastern Mountain Lion (usually called a Catamount in this part of the world) is back. If they're here, then they're certainly in New York as well. While there's still some question as to whether the animals migrated here from farther west, or are escaped captive lions, there doesn't seem to be much question that they have in fact been seen.

There's some interesting information here:

http://www.patc.net/resources/florafauna/cougar.html