Maine, Aug 21-29, 2014, Grafton Notch to Rangeley

[Rain Man]

Each of the last two Augusts, I've hiked on the AT in NH & ME. NH is done and ME is started, so we're going back to pick up where we left off. Last year we averaged 6 miles a day and found that about right for us.

Anyone want to join in for a day, weekend, week, etc? Let me know.

Here is our TENTATIVE schedule (though Southwest tickets have been purchased):

Tue 8/19 - fly to Boston
Wed 8/20 - day in Boston with my daughter Grass, take evening bus to Gorham, NH, stay at White Mountains Lodge & Hostel (same as last year)
Thu 8/21 - shuttle to Grafton Notch State Park (where we ended last August), begin hike on AT. Hike 5.8 miles to Frye Notch Lean-to
Fri 8/22 - 4.5 miles Frye Notch LT to East B Hill Road, shuttle to a hostel in Andover
Sat 8/23 - 6.0 miles from East B Hill Road to Hall Mountain Lean-to
Sun 8/24 - 4.1 miles from Hall Mountain LT to South Arm Road, shuttle to a hostel in Andover
Mon 8/25 - ZERO day in Andover (20.4 miles so far)
Tue 8/26 - 8.7 miles from South Arm Road to Bemis Mountain Lean-to
Wed 8/27 - 4.5 miles from Bemis Mountain LT to ME Hwy 17 (stay in Oquossoc?)
Thu 8/28 - 3.8 miles from ME Hwy 17 to Sabbath Day Pond Lean-to
Fri 8/29 - 9.4 miles from Sabbath Day Pond LT to ME Hwy 4 (stay in Rangeley) (26.4 miles since ZERO day) 46.8 miles GRAND TOTAL
Sat 8/30 - spend day as tourist in Rangeley and on way back to Boston
Sun 8/31 - day in Boston
Mon 9/1 - free day (can use to adjust schedule if needed)
Tue 9/2 - fly home to Nashville

My daughter lives in Boston now, but will not be hiking with me this year. Although I show hiking to shelters several short days, we might hike on and camp along the trail.

By the way, I'd love to hear and would be grateful for any suggestions, hints, warnings, advice, shuttle recommendations, or similar helpful comments!

Rain Man

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[Slo-go'en]

That's definitely a leisurely pace.
Day 1 will be one of your hardest. There is about a mile of above tree line between the west and east peaks, great views. Just hope it isn't raining or very windy or it can be a very difficult mile.

Frye Notch to East B hill road is a piece of cake. That won't take more then a couple of hours.
East B Hill rd to Hall Mountain is also reasonably easy.
Hall Mountain to South Arm Rd has Moody Mt in the way. The climb up Moody is "interesting". You'll find out why soon enough :) But again, this will be a very short day of hiking.

Then you have another really stiff climb up Old Blue, but once up and over that the Bemis ridge is full of views and it's reasonably easy hiking to the shelter. One of my favorite sections in that part of Maine.

I would go directly from Bemis to Sabbath Day pond. The trail from the highway to the pond is a bit more stumblely then you might expect from the profile, but not that difficult. Otherwise you have two very short days back to back.

Then from Sabbath Day to Rangeley is a piece of cake. Lots of bogs.

Last time I did that section (Sabbath Day pond to Grafton Notch), I did it in 4 nights, 5 days - in late September. If I had gone directly to Bemis Mt shelter instead of going north to Sabbath Day pond for my first night, It would have been only 3 nights, 4 days, but I would have missed seeing this:
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My longest day was South Arm Rd to Frye Notch lean-to, 14 miles, but once up and over Moody Mt and the climb up Hall Mt, the rest wasn't too bad. BTW, The climb up Hall Mt from the south is very steep (with rebarb ladders) as is the climb up Old Blue.

Camping off trail is very limited in that section. The only good camp sites are the ones noted in the guide, Sawyer brook and South Arm Rd. If you decide to push on and "find a campsite", you will end up at the next shelter.

[Rain Man]

That's definitely a leisurely pace. ...

Thanks! I really appreciate the advice. If it does turn out to be too leisurely a pace, we'll adjust and hike further or cut a harder day short and then make it up on an easy one. One "problem" is we don't want to hike past Hwy 4 at Rangeley on this trip, in order to start there next year with someone who needs to make up a missed section starting there.

Again, thanks!

Rain Man

[Migrating Bird]

Little Swift River Pond Campsite, 5 miles south of Rt 4 (Rangeley) is a nice campsite, if your ahead of schedule. In the past, there was a canoe to use as well as.

Slo-go'en, "The climb up Moody is "interesting" I'd like to add "memorable".

[peakbagger]

There are unofficial campsites in the woods near East B Hill road, between Hall and Moody Mtn and on the west side of South Arm Road. The Grafton Loop Trail on either side of RT 26 would make a good addition to your hike.

If you think the climb up Moody is interesting, try hiking the corridor boundary!

Make sure you visit the "gunsight" above Hall mountain shelter. If it helps, the AT shuttle may be able to shuttle you to the abandoned road between Moody and Hall. It is a couple of mile walk in from the gate. The neighbors along the lower road were playing games with access so unless the shuttler has recent experience, that approach may not be usable.

[Teacher & Snacktime]

This sounds like a job for TEACHER AND SNACKTIME! Faster than a speeding red hotrod, more helpful than a lightweight daypack, and who, disguised as an crazy old lady and burgeoning adolescent, seek to fill the never-ending hiker needs of shuttling, slack-packing and trail magic!

I'll check our schedule, RM....we may well be in the area around that time!

[illabelle]

That's definitely a leisurely pace.

We are planning our first Maine section next year, and I was worried that our 8 mpd plan would make us look like sissies. I was simultaneously worried that our 8 mpd plan would be too hard for us. It's nice to know that somebody else is taking a conservative approach. :)

[Slo-go'en]

We are planning our first Maine section next year, and I was worried that our 8 mpd plan would make us look like sissies. I was simultaneously worried that our 8 mpd plan would be too hard for us. It's nice to know that somebody else is taking a conservative approach. :)

Simply planning on going shelter to shelter along here is not unreasonable.

[rocketsocks]

We are planning our first Maine section next year, and I was worried that our 8 mpd plan would make us look like sissies. I was simultaneously worried that our 8 mpd plan would be too hard for us. It's nice to know that somebody else is taking a conservative approach. :)To many you'd be a Giant...sleepin' out in the wildness with all you own on your backs. Have a great hike all.

[Rain Man]

We are planning our first Maine section next year, and I was worried that our 8 mpd plan would make us look like sissies.

Rocketsocks is right. You'll be a giant. Sissies are the ones who stay on their couches only pushing buttons! I think 8 mpd is just fine. In the south, I averaged about 15 mpd. Even in southern NH, I did a 14 and a 16 mile day. But once hitting the Whites, I was very happy with half that mileage (or less), and my knees still became stiff and swollen.

I expect we may adjust our daily mileage specifics here and there on this trip, but I'd rather adjust up than down and feel better rather than worse about exceeding or falling short of expectations.

Happy to be called a wush. LOL

Rain:sunMan

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[Rain Man]

This sounds like a job for TEACHER AND SNACKTIME! Faster than a speeding red hotrod, more helpful than a lightweight daypack, and who, disguised as an crazy old lady and burgeoning adolescent, seek to fill the never-ending hiker needs of shuttling, slack-packing and trail magic!

I'll check our schedule, RM....we may well be in the area around that time!

Teach, that would be awesome (again)! Here's hoping. And, btw, I got the "How to Speak Rhode Island" book, etc., last week. Mucho gracias!!!

Here's a pic of Snacktime, me, and Teacher last month in New Jersey. :)

Rain:sunMan

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[joshuasdad]

I suggest calling Honey and Bear at "The Cabin" -- they will set you up with inexpensive shuttles and some great AYCE breakfasts and dinners. I spent 4 nights there in June.

IMO, this is a great area to slackpack if you can do 10-13 miles a day, as there are quite a few "memorable" climbs and descents which would be even more "memorable" carrying a full pack...

[illabelle]

Rocketsocks is right. You'll be a giant. Sissies are the ones who stay on their couches only pushing buttons! I think 8 mpd is just fine. In the south, I averaged about 15 mpd. Even in southern NH, I did a 14 and a 16 mile day. But once hitting the Whites, I was very happy with half that mileage (or less), and my knees still became stiff and swollen.

I expect we may adjust our daily mileage specifics here and there on this trip, but I'd rather adjust up than down and feel better rather than worse about exceeding or falling short of expectations.

Happy to be called a wush. LOL

Rain:sunMan

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I'm gonna follow your example, Rain Man. Might take us a few more years to get done, but I'd rather finish the trail than have the trail finish me!

[Teacher & Snacktime]

Was the kerchief with the book, RM? Myakka said he'd be on the lookout for more for you. :)

[Rain Man]

Was the kerchief with the book, RM? Myakka said he'd be on the lookout for more for you. :)

Absolutely... it put the biggest smile on my face! I'll take more if convenient. Thanks!

Rain:sunMan

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[Teacher & Snacktime]

I'm looking over your schedule and these are my thoughts. I think that Snacktime and I can plan our Maine Event this year to coincide with your hike. This could serve several purposes if timed just right: Farmer Chef & family, Kerosene, some FB friends, and a visit to Andover to see Honey and Bear (lodging recommendation by the way). I just need to figure out what my employment status will be at that town, which will determine whether we can pick you up in Boston and head north, or catch you later in the trip. I hope to have that info soon....in a week or so. Sorry I can't be more definitive just yet, but rest assured that we'll be there for you in some capacity if there is any possible way. Did I tell you what a good time we too had on our last outing and how great Snacktime felt about our efforts afterwards? He's definitely eager for another adventure in chasing Rain Man!

[Rain Man]

Our Maine hike has been postponed exactly one week. Same itinerary, new dates. We still welcome hike partners and/or visitors, if anyone's interested.

Tue 8/26 - fly to Boston
Wed 8/27 - day in Boston with my daughter Grass, take evening bus to Gorham, NH, stay at White Mountains Lodge & Hostel (same as last year)
Thu 8/28 - shuttle to Grafton Notch State Park (where we ended last August), begin hike on AT. Hike 5.8 miles to Frye Notch Lean-to
Fri 8/29 - 4.5 miles Frye Notch LT to East B Hill Road, shuttle to a hostel in Andover
Sat 8/30 - 6.0 miles from East B Hill Road to Hall Mountain Lean-to
Sun 8/31 - 4.1 miles from Hall Mountain LT to South Arm Road, shuttle to a hostel in Andover
Mon 9/1 - Labor Day - ZERO day in Andover (20.4 miles so far)
Tue 9/2 - 8.7 miles from South Arm Road to Bemis Mountain Lean-to
Wed 9/3 - 4.5 miles from Bemis Mountain LT to ME Hwy 17 (stay in Oquossoc?)
Thu 9/4 - 3.8 miles from ME Hwy 17 to Sabbath Day Pond Lean-to
Fri 9/5 - 9.4 miles from Sabbath Day Pond LT to ME Hwy 4 (stay in Rangeley) (26.4 miles since ZERO day) 46.8 miles GRAND TOTAL
Sat 9/6 - spend day as tourist in Rangeley and on way back to Boston
Sun 9/7 - day in Boston
Mon 9/8 - free day (can use to adjust schedule if needed)
Tue 9/9 - fly home to Nashville

Rain:sunMan

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[Teacher & Snacktime]

I start working again tomorrow, Chum...or you KNOW we'd be there tooling around with you in the Maine wilderness. I'll be looking closely at my schedule though to see if there's any way we can surprise you on your journey. Sorry we'll miss the fun. :(

[jbwood5]

Each of the last two Augusts, I've hiked on the AT in NH & ME. NH is done and ME is started, so we're going back to pick up where we left off. Last year we averaged 6 miles a day and found that about right for us.

Anyone want to join in for a day, weekend, week, etc? Let me know.

Here is our TENTATIVE schedule (though Southwest tickets have been purchased):

Tue 8/19 - fly to Boston
Wed 8/20 - day in Boston with my daughter Grass, take evening bus to Gorham, NH, stay at White Mountains Lodge & Hostel (same as last year)
Thu 8/21 - shuttle to Grafton Notch State Park (where we ended last August), begin hike on AT. Hike 5.8 miles to Frye Notch Lean-to
Fri 8/22 - 4.5 miles Frye Notch LT to East B Hill Road, shuttle to a hostel in Andover
Sat 8/23 - 6.0 miles from East B Hill Road to Hall Mountain Lean-to
Sun 8/24 - 4.1 miles from Hall Mountain LT to South Arm Road, shuttle to a hostel in Andover
Mon 8/25 - ZERO day in Andover (20.4 miles so far)
Tue 8/26 - 8.7 miles from South Arm Road to Bemis Mountain Lean-to
Wed 8/27 - 4.5 miles from Bemis Mountain LT to ME Hwy 17 (stay in Oquossoc?)
Thu 8/28 - 3.8 miles from ME Hwy 17 to Sabbath Day Pond Lean-to
Fri 8/29 - 9.4 miles from Sabbath Day Pond LT to ME Hwy 4 (stay in Rangeley) (26.4 miles since ZERO day) 46.8 miles GRAND TOTAL
Sat 8/30 - spend day as tourist in Rangeley and on way back to Boston
Sun 8/31 - day in Boston
Mon 9/1 - free day (can use to adjust schedule if needed)
Tue 9/2 - fly home to Nashville

My daughter lives in Boston now, but will not be hiking with me this year. Although I show hiking to shelters several short days, we might hike on and camp along the trail.

By the way, I'd love to hear and would be grateful for any suggestions, hints, warnings, advice, shuttle recommendations, or similar helpful comments!

Rain Man

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This section was included in my hike last month (Mt Madison Hut to ME Hwy 4). Although there are some tough sections, it won't be as bad as the section you completed last year. I actually slacked the last 26 miles in 2 days (South Arm to HWY 17 - day 1 and HWY 17 to ME 4 - day 2). The last 13 miles (HWY 17 to HWY 4) was as easy as the trail in Vermont.

Before my section this year, I reviewed your picture album from last year and it gave a lot of info on what to expect. I wasn't disappointed! Thanks.

May your weather be good and have a great hike. I can't think of anything that you would have an issue with.

Just John
Seminole, FL

[dlwills]

Rain Man, It's Leah who shuttled your car twice last year. My husband got pretty beat up last year from the hike so his August hike this year, they are not going to finish Maine this summer. Instead they are hiking from North Adams southbound to PA. I will meet up with them in Salisbury, then send them mail drops for the remainder of the trip.

Last year, I day hiked from Grafton Notch to East B Hill Road with my cousin while my husband took a couple of zeros to heal his knee and broken toe. There was a trail magic cooler near the stream near the road at that time. Starting out in Grafton Notch, the climb is brutal, straight up. There was no get yourself warmed up on a gentle slope. You will find some stone work in areas. Climbing the bald was steep but once at the top, it is flat and you even have boards to walk across covering the mud. On the down side, you will encounter a small ladder to climb down. Frye Notch shelter has a stream running by it. I saw a lot of moose droppings on the trail but didn't see any moose. You will hear chainsaws and machinery from time to time, fooling you to think you are near the road crossing.

We started the hike at 6AM and finished just after 1PM. We were met at the road by my cousin's wife and my husband with a pizza and pouring rain! My cousin then decided to hike onto the next road crossing in Andover. He finished after 6PM.

The weather this August has been cooler than normal, just like last year so be prepared for some cold nights. Temperatures at night in southern NH has been in the upper 50's.

Enjoy your hike!

[Rain Man]

I start working again tomorrow, Chum...or you KNOW we'd be there tooling around with you in the Maine wilderness. I'll be looking closely at my schedule though to see if there's any way we can surprise you on your journey. Sorry we'll miss the fun. :(

That would be great if we could see you! We'll be doing dinner in Boston next Tuesday and again two weeks later on return leg of trip, if that might interest you.

Rain Man

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[Rain Man]

This section was included in my hike last month (Mt Madison Hut to ME Hwy 4). Although there are some tough sections, it won't be as bad as the section you completed last year. I actually slacked the last 26 miles in 2 days (South Arm to HWY 17 - day 1 and HWY 17 to ME 4 - day 2). The last 13 miles (HWY 17 to HWY 4) was as easy as the trail in Vermont.

Before my section this year, I reviewed your picture album from last year and it gave a lot of info on what to expect. I wasn't disappointed! Thanks.

May your weather be good and have a great hike. I can't think of anything that you would have an issue with.

Just John
Seminole, FL

John, thanks so much for the info! Glad to hear your thoughts on the difficulty. Last year I was at 100%; this year I'm battling a sore leg, which is improving daily, thank goodness. Still, I might be grateful for the short mileage days we have scheduled. And if it goes easier than we think, we'll adjust the schedule.

Glad you liked the photos and they were helpful. I have a new camera and plan to keep taking bunches.

Rain Man

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[Rain Man]

Rain Man, It's Leah who shuttled your car twice last year. ...

Last year, I day hiked from Grafton Notch to East B Hill Road with my cousin .... Starting out in Grafton Notch, the climb is brutal, straight up. There was no get yourself warmed up on a gentle slope. You will find some stone work in areas. Climbing the bald was steep but once at the top, it is flat and you even have boards to walk across covering the mud. ...

We started the hike at 6AM and finished just after 1PM. ...

The weather this August has been cooler than normal, just like last year so be prepared for some cold nights. Temperatures at night in southern NH has been in the upper 50's.

Enjoy your hike!

Leah! So glad to hear from you! We REALLY appreciated the shuttling last year. What nice WB trail magic! And thanks too for the info on hiking conditions. We are allowing for our first climb (up Baldpate) to be brutal, indeed, and have planned a short day of it. We're in no rush, thank goodness. I'm nursing a sore leg, so it's good to hear you did more miles and finished by 1:00. That gives me hope that I'll be okay this year.

The weather and temps look fantastic so far, but will keep an eye on them.

Thanks again!

Rain Man

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[Teacher & Snacktime]

We might be able to meet you in Boston on the 26th. I have that Mon & Tues off. I had wanted to get Snacktime up to Maine again this summer, but it doesn't look likely. Now I'm thinking maybe Mt. Washington Monday then meet you on our way home Tues. Send your ph# again please. We won't be able to slackpack you this time, but it would be great to see you :)

[Rain Man]

Our Maine hike has been postponed again. We still welcome hike partners and/or visitors, if anyone's interested.

Wed 9/3 - fly to Boston
Thu 9/4 - day in Boston with my daughter Grass, take evening bus to Gorham, NH, stay at White Mountains Lodge & Hostel (same as last year)
Fri 9/5 - shuttle to Grafton Notch State Park (where we ended last August), begin hike on AT. Hike 5.8 miles to Frye Notch Lean-to
Sat 9/6 - 4.5 miles Frye Notch LT to East B Hill Road, shuttle to a hostel in Andover
Sun 9/7 - 6.0 miles from East B Hill Road to Hall Mountain Lean-to
Mon 9/8 - 4.1 miles from Hall Mountain LT to South Arm Road, shuttle to a hostel in Andover
Tue 9/9 - ZERO day in Andover (20.4 miles so far)
Wed 9/10 - 8.7 miles from South Arm Road to Bemis Mountain Lean-to
Thu 9/11 - 4.5 miles from Bemis Mountain LT to ME Hwy 17 (stay in Oquossoc?)
Fri 9/12 - 3.8 miles from ME Hwy 17 to Sabbath Day Pond Lean-to
Sat 9/13 - 9.4 miles from Sabbath Day Pond LT to ME Hwy 4 (stay in Rangeley) (26.4 miles since ZERO day) 46.8 miles GRAND TOTAL
Sun 9/14 - spend day as tourist in Rangeley and on way back to Boston
Mon 9/15 - day in Boston
Tue 9/16 - free day (can use to adjust schedule if needed)
Wed 9/17 - fly home to Nashville

Rain:sunMan

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[Rain Man]

We might be able to meet you in Boston on the 26th. I have that Mon & Tues off. ...

Teach, hate to do this to you again, but had to postpone a second time. See the new dates. Here's hoping you might still be able to make it up.

Rain:sunMan

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[Teacher & Snacktime]

This might be easier actually. I'll check the schedule and let you know what we can do. :)

[Rain Man]

POSTPONED/Canceled. Well, sadly, we must cancel this year and postpone til next August.

Rain Man

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[Teacher & Snacktime]

Well that sucks....see you in August I hope. What are you doing on 10/4? Come to Roanoke.

[Kerosene]

Darn Rain Man! With your new dates I thought we might overlap as I start north from Rangeley late on the 13th. Sorry you won't be able to get up there this Fall.

[Rain Man]

Darn Rain Man! With your new dates I thought we might overlap as I start north from Rangeley late on the 13th. Sorry you won't be able to get up there this Fall.

Now, don't tell me that, ... 'cause now I'm really sorry to cancel! Let's aim for next year perhaps. Enjoy your hike!

Rain Man

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[Rain Man]

Well that sucks....see you in August I hope. What are you doing on 10/4? Come to Roanoke.

Yeah, it sucks, but discretion is the better part of valor, or some such adage. What's happening on 10/4 in Roanoke?

Rain Man

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[Teacher & Snacktime]

A group of WB folks are hiking up McAfee Knob just for the kicks and giggles, to be followed by a dinner at The Home Place to celebrate HikerMom's birthday. The details are in the Fall/Winter Hikes Group on my profile page - open group - and it's an open hike. HM is willing to put folks up in her "hostel" if you don't mind squeezing in, or camping is available in the yard.

Come join us.....Snacktime would love to see you (as would I), and this time we can all hike together. Plus you'll meet some great folks!

[Kerosene]

I joined a group of mostly Roanoke WBers hiking up to McAfee knob in February 2011 (when I was between jobs...as I am today coincidentally!), driving 10 hours from the Midwest with my daughter (Sunshine) and her college friend just for kicks. We met HikerMom and had a blast on a lovely cool day. I encourage everyone to try to get out there (I will be trying to finish my last AT section up in Maine)! Good people.