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Paw_Paw_Drew
02-09-2015, 09:01
I recently picked up a Exos 46 large and as best I can understand it has been replaced by the exos 48. Can someone tell me the difference between the old and new pack?

Nooga
02-09-2015, 10:09
I have an Exos 58. The difference between the one I bought in 2013 and the new ones are: different waist belt, eliminated the two back zipper panels in the main body, and different main pack top closure which makes it better if you remove the top panel.

William36
02-09-2015, 10:13
Have had both and love both....some refinements on 48 but all said pretty similar....

Right now if you dig hard you can probably get the 46 for $85-100 which is a STEAL....

OwenM
02-09-2015, 10:40
-The new Exos has more comfortable and breathable padding, though they appear less durable.
-The stretch mesh side and rear pockets are stretchier, but definitely less durable(not an issue on-trail, really).
-The shoulder straps both have usable pockets.
-The pack rides higher, and the load lifters actually function as load lifters, being above the shoulder rather than at shoulder level.
-The waistbelt is a huge improvement in every respect. It is more supportive(and supportED) with reinforced panels under it at the rear rather than mesh, where the old ones tended to wear and get holes at the edges. Single thicker waist strap with the excess captured, rather than having straps hanging to your knees with the belt cinched down.
The pockets are also much improved, and the zippers can be operated with one hand.
-The flapjacket feature is great if you use it, and sucks when using the lid, because you can't remove the flap(unless you cut it off).
-There is a compression strap at the top inside the pack that as far as I can tell is completely useless with or without the lid(cut mine out).
-Bottom straps are another huge improvement. For one thing, they're actually on the bottom of the pack. They're also spread much wider-I now put my tent there.
-The support piece that frames the Airspeed logo is now stitched into its own reinforced "pocket" on the inside of the packbag. The old ones could pop out-not any more.
There's probably some other stuff I forgot. I'll add some pics that I took when I got the newer 38 and still had the older 46 and 58.

OwenM
02-09-2015, 10:47
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OwenM
02-09-2015, 10:56
Here's my 38 using the Flapjacket feature and no lid.
http://imageshack.com/a/img845/5308/6ec5.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img538/9600/w3l9Ps.jpg

hikernutcasey
02-09-2015, 13:51
Owen, how much room ya got in that 38? I bought the 58 because I needed to be able to carry mine and my son's gear when he tags along but I'm thinking about buying a 38 for solo trips. The 58 is huge! I'm thinking I may be able to fit my 3 season gear in it and be fine. Do you use it for multi day trips and if so what kind of gear and weight are you carrying?

OwenM
02-09-2015, 15:31
From that methods to arrange your pack thread, posted with the bottom pic of the 38. I was actually doing an overnighter of the La Verkin Creek Trail in Kolob Canyons, but was packed for doing the entire Trans-Zion(hurt my knee and didn't want to commit to a hike with my car almost 50 miles away).
That's my lidless Osprey Exos 38 with about 3 days worth of food, plus gear and clothing for lows ~30 and highs ~50.
It changes some, but since I posted a pic, I'll go with what was actually in the pack at the time.

Outside:
-Tarptent Notch w/semi-solid inner on bottom
-cut down ThermaRest ZLite for sitpad and poop kit with trowel in rear stretch pocket
-water bottles in side mesh pockets

Inside(in an OR ultralight waterproof pack liner):
Bottom:
-Katabatic Palisade quilt and Goosefeet down hood in stuff sack

Second Layer:
-Exped Downmat UL7 with cord for attaching the quilt and the Schnozzle pump bag, laying horizontal
-Snow Peak 700 mug in a ZPacks stuff sack vertical. Hotlips, mini Bic, firesteel, 8 hexamine tabs, 2 1oz containers with denatured alcohol, Four Dog Bushcooker LT Mini stove, ti windscreen, and pot supports, a folding spoon, and a bandana all stored inside the mug.
-On the outside of those, my clothes bag with long baselayers, socks, glove liners, spare Buff and a beanie

Third Layer:
-Food bag(OR stuff sack) laying horizontal.
-Outside the food bag, an OR Helium HD shell(goes on top of everything outside the pack liner when rain is threatening) and OR Rampart rainpants

Top Layer:
-First Aid/Emergency kit in a 1qt freezer bag
-Sawyer Mini and 1.5L Evernew bag in a cut-off 1L bottle inside a small stuff sack
-small cuben drybag with items I want to keep together(keys, phone, wallet, passes/permits, batteries, etc).
-sunglass case with headlamp. I wear sunglasses 'til almost dark. Glasses come off, headlamp goes on.
-OR Filament down pulloverFor winter, where I have a bulkier down jacket, heavy baselayers and some other stuff, it's an overnight pack, but I can do 3-4 days easy in moderate temps, and should be able to get a week out of it in summertime with my smaller 50F quilt and no cook kit.