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mlivin01
04-25-2015, 12:29
What pack would you recommned that carries but to 40 pounds but is truly ultralight....less than 3 pounds.

kayak karl
04-25-2015, 12:39
you need a sturdy pack with a good suspension to carry 40#. the word "Ultralight" should not even be in this discussion :confused:

Wyoming
04-25-2015, 13:42
I just purchased an Aarn Featherlight Freedom for that very purpose. I am planning on a thru of the Arizona Trial in the fall and it may require I carry up to 45lbs (5 days food and 2 days water at times). This pack weighs right at 4 lbs and is good up to 45lb loads. It is very unusual in that it has front pockets which one loads heavy to balance the pack. It is VERY comfortable and one's natural posture with it is standing straight up vice leaning forward with a regular pack. When it is fully loaded it is possible to keep about 90% of the weight on the hips and virtually none on the shoulders. And yes you can see your feet to look down for tricky foot placements. Real comfort is critical for me as I have had 4 broken vertebrae. You might give it a look.

There is another pack which might suit you that will carry a lot more than 40lbs. External frame. From a post on another thread here.

I got an email from Seek Outside today. They have a new Unaweep model. 4600 cu. in. / 70 liters. Sub 3 pounds. 100 pounds capacity. Waterproof X-Pack fabric. Worth a close look.

Ultralight to me does not mean your pack is really light (like 15lbs or something). It means that you have completely minimized the total weight but still satisfied the requirements of the hike you are planning on hiking. One can do some trails with almost no gear and others require substantial gear. Ultralight means getting rid of the stuff you don't really need and cutting required gear weight as much as safety and ergonomics allow.

Good luck.

HooKooDooKu
04-25-2015, 15:51
Look into the REI Flash 62. It weighs right at 3lbs. There's is no specification on weight capacity, but I haul 30 to 35 lbs in mine on a regular basis.

SipseyFreak
04-25-2015, 17:38
GG Mariposa

garlic08
04-25-2015, 17:48
Ditto the Gossamer Gear suggestion. Their packs often go on sale, too.

mlivin01
04-26-2015, 14:15
This made me laugh and I guess you are right. So not to be pedantic but what total pack weight do you consider Ultra light then? I noticed that the Z packs are rated less than 30 pounds so I assume anything less than 30 pounds is light or ultra light?

I think i for sure want a pack less than 2 pounds to get me into the light category...so for packs in the 2 pounds or less range what is the recommendation other than z packs? Thanks by the way.

Drybones
04-26-2015, 14:44
Of the packs I own and can testify to:

Deuter ACT 65 Lite
REI Flash 65 & 50
Granite Gear Crown 60

I'd use the Deuter for over 40 lb if it were day after day, the Granite Gear if only a few days here and there. I never carry that much any more so it's always the Crown 60 I use.

Drybones
04-26-2015, 14:45
This made me laugh and I guess you are right. So not to be pedantic but what total pack weight do you consider Ultra light then? I noticed that the Z packs are rated less than 30 pounds so I assume anything less than 30 pounds is light or ultra light?

I think i for sure want a pack less than 2 pounds to get me into the light category...so for packs in the 2 pounds or less range what is the recommendation other than z packs? Thanks by the way.

The Granite Gear Crown 60 weighs 2 lb-2oz and I'm very pleased with it.

Walkintom
04-26-2015, 15:10
Klymit Motion 60. Very comfy and carries the weight well. Weighs about 2.7 lbs iirc.

Wolf - 23000
04-26-2015, 15:54
Having the lightest pack is not always the best. You should also look at how well the pack feels on your back. Because we are all different body types, it really depends on personal preference and how well we use it. I would suggest visiting REI or your favorite sporting store and try out some packs. Add in 40 pounds to see how it feels on your back.

Wolf

ChrisJackson
04-26-2015, 16:35
ULA Catalyst

kayak karl
04-26-2015, 17:48
This made me laugh and I guess you are right. So not to be pedantic but what total pack weight do you consider Ultra light then? I noticed that the Z packs are rated less than 30 pounds so I assume anything less than 30 pounds is light or ultra light?

I think i for sure want a pack less than 2 pounds to get me into the light category...so for packs in the 2 pounds or less range what is the recommendation other than z packs? Thanks by the way.
ultralight is down around 10-15lbs (i could be wrong, but will be corrected) i have found with packs in the 2 lb range can carry 30lb comfortably and 35 uncomfortable. i have a golite pinnacle 2lb. and it stops carrying well at 32lb. its 4000 cu.in. and you can fit 40 lbs in it, but carries like a big rock.

Mooselook Marty
04-26-2015, 18:17
I have an old Granite Gear Nimbus Ozone, which weighed 3 pounds and was rated to 40 pound loads. It carried 30-35 pound loads effortlessly. The current model closest to it is the Leopard AC 58. It is 3 pounds 1 ounce, but 2 pounds 12 ounces without its floating lid and is also rated to 40 pounds.

MuddyWaters
04-26-2015, 18:28
No UL pack will carry 40 lbs.
A real UL pack starts at about 23 oz by one definition, which I agree with . Heavier packs are lightweight framed packs.
3 lbs, is still lightweight, but not by much today.

You can bank on this statement: 43 lbs in a conventional 5 lb pack, will feel lighter than 40 lbs in an overloaded lightweight pack.
repeat that as often as necessary.

Buy a pack for where you will spend MOST of your time, and accept minor discomfort for the few times you will overload it.

Starchild
04-26-2015, 21:31
External frame is the way to go here. Sooo much more comfortable regardless of the weight of the pack.

kayak karl
04-26-2015, 22:08
External frame is the way to go here. Sooo much more comfortable regardless of the weight of the pack. not true at all. there are a lot of internal frame packs that carry up to 50+ well.

blgoode
04-26-2015, 22:53
Paradox Pack Unaweep. I just took one 18 miles and 5000 ft gain. Wow. Most comfortable pack I have ever worn and I have had a few. Pack moved with you, I could pick items up off ground with out loosing balance or pack making me stiff and rigid. It is an external/internal hybrid. Pack rides very close to you and belt doesn't slip at all.

blgoode
04-26-2015, 22:54
Forgot to mention the unaweep weighs 3.8lbs and is plenty big.

Franco
04-26-2015, 23:03
I have carried around 40 lbs in the Osprey Aether 60 (the original version) the ULA Circuit and the Aarn Featherlite Freedom.
The Aarn, at 3 lbs, is about 1 lb heavier than the Circuit and a bit heavier than the Osprey but MUCH more comfortable at that weight.
(not that I like carrying 40 lbs...)

FamilyGuy
04-27-2015, 17:32
I have carried around 40 lbs in the Osprey Aether 60 (the original version) the ULA Circuit and the Aarn Featherlite Freedom.
The Aarn, at 3 lbs, is about 1 lb heavier than the Circuit and a bit heavier than the Osprey but MUCH more comfortable at that weight.
(not that I like carrying 40 lbs...)

Franco, do you use the front pockets with the Aarn?

Franco
04-27-2015, 18:09
Yes, both packs.
I have the Expedition type (the largest size...) on the smaller one (Featherlite Freedom) so that it is easier to balance the weight that way.

Wanderingventurer
04-27-2015, 18:33
Ditto on SeekOutside’s new Unaweep pack with the 4600 cu. In. and X-Pack fabric at sub 3 lbs. Mine is slightly older and in the VX fabric, so it is a couple of ounces over 3 lbs. This is a great pack and the most comfortable one that I have ever carried!

JumpMaster Blaster
04-27-2015, 20:46
I think the ULA Catalyst will be the closest thing to (ultra)light that will be able to handle 40 pounds. Carrying 40# of gear in and of itself is NOT UL by ANY stretch of the imagination, period.

During my training hikes I carried 36-39 pounds of weight in my Catalyst (size small) and didn't have any problems. Maybe don't pigeonhole yourself into a certain crazy pack weight of you're going to be carrying that much gear. It's like asking for a UL 3-man tent that weighs less than 3 pounds and costs less than $400. Too narrow a scope.

Just Bill
04-27-2015, 22:34
I don't own it, so take out your salt shaker...

I put 60lbs in this pack and wore it for 1.5 hours at the store while I farted around. 2.5lbs.
http://www.rei.com/product/864669/osprey-exos-58-pack?cm_mmc=cse_bing-_-8646690003&mr:trackingCode=ACD8F0E6-B59D-E311-90E9-BC305BF82162&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=pa&mr:ad=4353487055&mr:filter=24869379349&msid=8e2x7ciA_dc|pcrid|4353487055|#tab-specs

It fit my hips a bit funky, the butterfly style internal frame transfers weight very well, but to do it the frame grabs your hips pretty decent. It's a very nice pack for the right person. I think you could easily chop, cut, and take off the brain to get it under 2lbs without much trouble.

Wyoming
04-30-2015, 12:59
I have an old Granite Gear Nimbus Ozone, which weighed 3 pounds and was rated to 40 pound loads. It carried 30-35 pound loads effortlessly. The current model closest to it is the Leopard AC 58. It is 3 pounds 1 ounce, but 2 pounds 12 ounces without its floating lid and is also rated to 40 pounds.

I used one of the Nimbus Ozones on my thru of the AT as well as many other hikes. It is not good for 40lbs. I have never had more than 35 lbs in it and the straps eventually started to tear away from the bag. Plus I found it uncomfortable at 35 lbs. It to me it is really a 30lb and under bag except when you have no other choice.

bigcranky
04-30-2015, 14:05
I'm looking at the new Zpacks Arc Haul pack (http://www.zpacks.com/backpacks/arc_haul.shtml). I've been using a ULA Circuit for many years, and was thinking about an Ohm 2.0 to save half a pound in the summer, but the Arc Haul looks like it could replace both packs, have more carrying capacity, and it weighs ~24 oz total. Not inexpensive, but within reason for what it is -- a 100% Dyneema pack with a well-thought-out frame, potentially cooler in warm weather, and completely customizable.

Franco
04-30-2015, 18:48
"Carrying 40# of gear in and of itself is NOT UL by ANY stretch of the imagination, period."
It can be , ask me how ...
OK, I don't sell Herbalife so I'll tell you
22 lbs of food, 8 lbs of water , the rest is your 10 lbs UL pack.

Jake2c
04-30-2015, 19:05
I don't have a lot of experience but I have noted a difference between being light and feeling light. I have a 3lb black diamond that I only use when I am sub 30lbs. It is a nice pack that I like but over 30lbs and it feels heavier than my Kelty external frame 65. The Kelty weighs about 4.5lbs. So I give up about 1-2 pounds but no matter what I load into it, it feel light and air flow is good around the pack. It is comfortable enough for me that even though I will be going on a short hike in a week or two and could use the lighter pack, I have opted for the external frame as it is just really comfortable. One exception though, if I was scrambling around rocks I would probably use the black diamond.

Franco
04-30-2015, 21:18
I remember a particular 6 day walk when a mate and myself had about 35 lbs each at the start.
I had my Aarn (about 1.8kg) he had a 700g or so frameless pack.
I called his pack a sack of potatoes because it looked like one and was pretty much as comfortable to carry as a sack of potatoes with straps.
He bought another pack later on...

blgoode
05-07-2015, 08:01
You need to talk to Kevin at Seekoutside. The Unaweep has really impressed me with what it has to offer. It has too many pluses not to take s serious look at. No rain cover, light, can carry well over 40lbs.

Vthiker77
05-11-2015, 06:24
^^^^^ what blgoode said! Unaweep is the pack for you. AWESOME pack and ridiculously comfortable at those weights. Under 30lbs and you forget you're even wearing it. 30-40lbs is no problem.

billnchristy
05-16-2015, 19:43
The crown plus air frame sheet is supposed to be able to hold 40. With the plastic sheet they just say 35.

blgoode
05-16-2015, 20:23
I have the Divide 4200 on order. At 2lb 10oz I had to try it out!!

Violent Green
05-16-2015, 23:10
Exped Lightning 60 will carry 40lbs all day and not bat an eye. 2.5 lbs and often less than $200. Great pack.

Ryan

mtntopper
05-16-2015, 23:38
Contact TIPIWALKER on this site. He is always carrying a heavy loaded pack. I am sure he can help you.