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lili
06-28-2015, 08:02
Hey guys,
I'm a 24 yr old female and in slightly bad shape, but I can get back into shape fairly easily and am used to carrying heavy loads on my back. I have experience in camping but in mostly warm areas and no experience in rain/snow. I'm cool with wild camping also.
What hike SOBO or NOBO in Maine can I do in your opinion(s) for 7-10 days? And can I do it with sneakers?
Anybody have a vague itinerary in mind?
Thanks!

LoneStranger
06-28-2015, 08:41
Maine miles tend to be tough miles so I won't guess how far you can get in a week, but I will advise against sneakers. Roots, rocks and mud are the majority of the trails here. Walking on roots and rocks is easier with a stiffer sole, else your feet have to work a lot harder. Mud can't be avoided at times when you can't find a root or a rock, so better to wear something you can go through it with in comfort. A shoe/boot with toe protection is also advised because you will slam your toes into those roots and rocks. A light weight shoe is ok, but definitely get something designed for trails.

SouthMark
06-28-2015, 09:39
Do the 100 mile wilderness. It is probably the easiest section of Maine. Don't use road running type sneakers. Trail runners ok. As LS said , lots of roots, rocks, and mud or bogs.

lili
06-28-2015, 11:11
I have thick-soled shoes that I used to wear for cross country, but are low-rise. is that ok?
SM, do you have a link for the 100 mile wilderness?

bemental
06-28-2015, 13:22
I have thick-soled shoes that I used to wear for cross country, but are low-rise. is that ok?
SM, do you have a link for the 100 mile wilderness?

Lili,

I just recently finished planning a much longer hike (30-45 days) through Maine, starting at Baxter State Park heading SOBO. My plan through the 100 looks to be about 10-12 miles/day, taking ten days in total to get to Monson.

I've attached my schedule to this post for you.

From what I understand the 100 is a particularly beautiful stretch of trail, with all manner of hiking obstacles (fords and rivers, hills, valleys, boulders and wildlife to boot), and would make an excellent section hike if you've got the time.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/28/791859e76b7cf8e5a8da04b35d0430f3.jpg

lili
06-29-2015, 09:20
That looks amazing! Are you going to carry all your food for the whole time? How does that work?

BirdBrain
06-29-2015, 09:32
For the most part, I like your schedule bemental. I am not going to advise a change. It is a good schedule. I would just point out that the easiest walking on in the 100 mile wilderness is just after Cooper Brook Lean-to. Your hardest day will be day 9. Fourth Mountain sucks after the walk from The West Branch of The Pleasant River. There are stealth sites near the river. Again, not advising a change. Just be flexible. I wish I had pushed on the day I stopped at Cooper Brook.


And to stay on topic, I agree that with a bit of planning the 100 mile wilderness is a good option for you. Just have a bail out plan if you are really concerned about ability. Possibly have a mid walk resupply. I believe bemental has one.

lili
06-29-2015, 12:58
And to stay on topic, I agree that with a bit of planning the 100 mile wilderness is a good option for you. Just have a bail out plan if you are really concerned about ability. Possibly have a mid walk resupply. I believe bemental has one.

BirdBrain- I'm a total newbie, so how does one set up a resupply site? Also, I thought the 100mw has no bailout options...

BirdBrain
06-29-2015, 13:09
BirdBrain- I'm a total newbie, so how does one set up a resupply site? Also, I thought the 100mw has no bailout options...

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/112326-Last-Minute-100-MW-Suggestions?p=1981895&viewfull=1#post1981895

bemental can help. I have never resupplied in the 100 mile wilderness. Many do. You could bail at the resupply point.

illabelle
06-29-2015, 13:29
Lili, this link might help you:
http://100milewilderness.info/100-mile-wilderness/

Water Rat
06-29-2015, 13:33
:welcome to White Blaze!

The 100 Mile Wilderness is not a true wilderness.... You will cross roads, come across people who have driven up to lakes to go fishing, etc. The most common bailout point in the Jo-Mary Road (about half-way through). This is usually where people schedule their resupply to be dropped-off. If you are contemplating a SoBo (southbound) trek through the 100 Mile Wilderness (my personal favorite way to go!), you might want to contact the AT Lodge in Millinocket. Ole Man can hook you up with resupply, lodging, shuttles... And is a great person to talk to about info for the 100 Mile Wilderness. http://appalachiantraillodge.com/

You could also choose to start your trek outside of Baxter Park, just past the Abol Bridge. That would save you a trip into the park... Of course, the trail from Katahdin Stream Campground (well, across the road from the campground) is pretty... Lots of options!

lili
07-03-2015, 16:40
Wow thank you so much guys!!

Shutterbug
07-03-2015, 18:06
Hey guys,
I'm a 24 yr old female and in slightly bad shape, but I can get back into shape fairly easily and am used to carrying heavy loads on my back. I have experience in camping but in mostly warm areas and no experience in rain/snow. I'm cool with wild camping also.
What hike SOBO or NOBO in Maine can I do in your opinion(s) for 7-10 days? And can I do it with sneakers?
Anybody have a vague itinerary in mind?
Thanks!

The Hundred Mile Wlderness is one of my favorite hikes. I certainly wouldn't want to discourage you from doing the hike, but I would suggest that you recruit someone to hike with you. It is a challenging hike. On one of my hikes, I met a girl exactly your age in the middle portion of the hike. The hike was taking her longer than she planned. She was out of food and was running late enough that she knew her family was in a panic. I shared some of my food and let her use my satellite phone. There are a lot of people who can help you on the AT, but hiking alone involves more risk than hiking with a companion.

The suggested itinerary is a good one, if the weather is good. The most recent time I have done that hike, I had three days of steady rain. In the wet conditions, I found that I was unable to hike more than 10 miles a day.

As for your question about sneakers, footwear is a highly personal choice. What works for one person won't work for someone else. Personally, I wear Vibram FiveFinger Shoes and they work fine. In my opinion, the most important thing about footwear for that hike is to have something with a tread. You will walk on everything from slick rock to moss covered planks. Street sneakers don't have enough tread to provide traction when it gets slick.

If you would like to see pictures from the Hundred Mile Wilderness, I have some photo albums on my personal website -- http://www.davemcclung.com. It has been several years since I did that hike so the albums will be pretty far down on my album index.

lili
07-03-2015, 19:28
The Hundred Mile Wlderness is one of my favorite hikes. I certainly wouldn't want to discourage you from doing the hike, but I would suggest that you recruit someone to hike with you. It is a challenging hike. On one of my hikes, I met a girl exactly your age in the middle portion of the hike. The hike was taking her longer than she planned. She was out of food and was running late enough that she knew her family was in a panic. I shared some of my food and let her use my satellite phone. There are a lot of people who can help you on the AT, but hiking alone involves more risk than hiking with a companion.

The suggested itinerary is a good one, if the weather is good. The most recent time I have done that hike, I had three days of steady rain. In the wet conditions, I found that I was unable to hike more than 10 miles a day.

As for your question about sneakers, footwear is a highly personal choice. What works for one person won't work for someone else. Personally, I wear Vibram FiveFinger Shoes and they work fine. In my opinion, the most important thing about footwear for that hike is to have something with a tread. You will walk on everything from slick rock to moss covered planks. Street sneakers don't have enough tread to provide traction when it gets slick.

If you would like to see pictures from the Hundred Mile Wilderness, I have some photo albums on my personal website -- http://www.davemcclung.com. It has been several years since I did that hike so the albums will be pretty far down on my album index.


Hi Shutterbug, I'm going to arrange a bail-out/resupply point so I think it should be ok. I want to start at Abol Pines State Campsite, hike for 4 days (I'll pack for 5) and resupply (or bail) at a state campsite between Wadleigh LT and Potaywadjo Spring LT. Then I'll continue on using bemental's schedule until West Branch Pleasant River where I can get picked up. My main concern is White Cap and the other peaks after it :\

Shutterbug
07-03-2015, 20:01
Hi Shutterbug, I'm going to arrange a bail-out/resupply point so I think it should be ok. I want to start at Abol Pines State Campsite, hike for 4 days (I'll pack for 5) and resupply (or bail) at a state campsite between Wadleigh LT and Potaywadjo Spring LT. Then I'll continue on using bemental's schedule until West Branch Pleasant River where I can get picked up. My main concern is White Cap and the other peaks after it :\

That seems like a reasonable plan. Do you have the Appalachian Trail Guide: Maine? You will need maps 1 & 2. They are available from the Maine Appalachian Trail Club for $8 each for nonmembers. I wouldn't hike that section without them.

Also, on the last day of your hike, save a couple of hours to visit Gulf Hagas. It is just before you reach the West Branch Pleasant River. It is known as the "Grand Canyon of Maine." Don't waste your time on the north side of the Gulf Hagas Loop, but the south side is well worth a visit.

namaste7
07-03-2015, 22:46
Hi Shutterbug, I'm going to arrange a bail-out/resupply point so I think it should be ok. I want to start at Abol Pines State Campsite, hike for 4 days (I'll pack for 5) and resupply (or bail) at a state campsite between Wadleigh LT and Potaywadjo Spring LT. Then I'll continue on using bemental's schedule until West Branch Pleasant River where I can get picked up. My main concern is White Cap and the other peaks after it :\


There are three or four of us starting the 100 mile wilderness from Baxter State Park on the 17th of July if you want company:)

namaste7
07-03-2015, 22:49
The Hundred Mile Wlderness is one of my favorite hikes. I certainly wouldn't want to discourage you from doing the hike, but I would suggest that you recruit someone to hike with you. It is a challenging hike. On one of my hikes, I met a girl exactly your age in the middle portion of the hike. The hike was taking her longer than she planned. She was out of food and was running late enough that she knew her family was in a panic. I shared some of my food and let her use my satellite phone. There are a lot of people who can help you on the AT, but hiking alone involves more risk than hiking with a companion.

The suggested itinerary is a good one, if the weather is good. The most recent time I have done that hike, I had three days of steady rain. In the wet conditions, I found that I was unable to hike more than 10 miles a day.

As for your question about sneakers, footwear is a highly personal choice. What works for one person won't work for someone else. Personally, I wear Vibram FiveFinger Shoes and they work fine. In my opinion, the most important thing about footwear for that hike is to have something with a tread. You will walk on everything from slick rock to moss covered planks. Street sneakers don't have enough tread to provide traction when it gets slick.

If you would like to see pictures from the Hundred Mile Wilderness, I have some photo albums on my personal website -- http://www.davemcclung.com. It has been several years since I did that hike so the albums will be pretty far down on my album index.


It's nice to see someone else who hikes in five finger shoes. What do you do in the winter when there is snow? I have ordered the new waterproof ones hoping they will work in the snow. I'm from florida and have not had to worry about this problem. I'm SOBO in July and will hit snow sooner or later before I finish in Georgia. Any suggestions?

bemental
07-04-2015, 09:16
Hey Guys, wanted to update those who are interested with how my little jaunt into the 100MW went as it seems pertinent to this thread as we had to bail due to an injury.

My dog and I were hiking, when on day two (close to our planned stop) he jammed a shoulder coming down Nesutabunt Mountain. He was limping pretty badly so I carried his pack into shelter, and made the call the next morning that we'd have to cut and run as soon as we could.

I wrote about the adventure in-depth on my blog (http://www.bemental.me/trail-journal/2015/7/2/day-03), but the jist of it was we came upon a family at the southeastern end of Lake Nahmakanta and hitched a ride from them 26 miles down the logging roads to the Jo-Mary checkpoint near Rt. 11, where we were able to call the AT Lodge for a shuttle into Bangor (where I live).

It wasn't the ideal bail by any stretch of the imagination, but it was possible (aided by the fact it was a busy holiday weekend).

lili
07-04-2015, 10:17
Hey Guys, wanted to update those who are interested with how my little jaunt into the 100MW went as it seems pertinent to this thread as we had to bail due to an injury.

My dog and I were hiking, when on day two (close to our planned stop) he jammed a shoulder coming down Nesutabunt Mountain. He was limping pretty badly so I carried his pack into shelter, and made the call the next morning that we'd have to cut and run as soon as we could.

Oh no!! how is he doing? Are you going to go back onto the trail soon?

Shutterbug, I found maps online. What do you think of these? I have 3 other pics with the remaining sectionshttp://trailmonsterrunning.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Section-MAP-1.jpg


and namaste7, I would love to join up!! I'll be starting a couple days before you, but you'll probably catch up in no time :)

lili
07-04-2015, 10:37
As for your question about sneakers, footwear is a highly personal choice. What works for one person won't work for someone else. Personally, I wear Vibram FiveFinger Shoes and they work fine. In my opinion, the most important thing about footwear for that hike is to have something with a tread. You will walk on everything from slick rock to moss covered planks. Street sneakers don't have enough tread to provide traction when it gets slick.

Are these alright?
31215

Water Rat
07-04-2015, 10:56
Are these alright?
31215

The truth is that anything will work... Some footware just requires you to think a bit more about where you plant your feet. Grandma Gatewood did the trail in Keds, etc. It is all about what works for you. The trail through the 100 Mile Wilderness can be extremely wet. How do those shoes perform on wet rocks, heading down (or up) a hill?

If you feel confident in them, and they are all that you have, then go for it. Others have done the trail in lesser shoes. Others have done the trail in shoes that were superior. The point is that each of them completed the trail. I could say that I would prefer a shoe with a bit more traction...and that is usually the case when I am hiking the trail. However, I have also done that section of trail in Keen sandals. It just means being more alert about where you put your feet.

Water Rat
07-04-2015, 11:02
Hey Guys, wanted to update those who are interested with how my little jaunt into the 100MW went as it seems pertinent to this thread as we had to bail due to an injury.

My dog and I were hiking, when on day two (close to our planned stop) he jammed a shoulder coming down Nesutabunt Mountain. He was limping pretty badly so I carried his pack into shelter, and made the call the next morning that we'd have to cut and run as soon as we could.

I wrote about the adventure in-depth on my blog (http://www.bemental.me/trail-journal/2015/7/2/day-03), but the jist of it was we came upon a family at the southeastern end of Lake Nahmakanta and hitched a ride from them 26 miles down the logging roads to the Jo-Mary checkpoint near Rt. 11, where we were able to call the AT Lodge for a shuttle into Bangor (where I live).

It wasn't the ideal bail by any stretch of the imagination, but it was possible (aided by the fact it was a busy holiday weekend).

I'm sorry your pooch hurt his shoulder (but can completely picture where he did it)! I wish him a speedy recovery!

The Jo-Mary road is heavily traveled this time of year. I've used it as a stop point (during the week) for a short trip I was doing... While waiting for a friend to pick me up, I had several people stop and ask if I was okay and needed a ride. In the 2 hours I was waiting, I had 5-6 vehicles go by in the direction I was headed.

Other times (when just crossing that road), I have witnessed multiple cars go by. Maybe that is not normal, but it left the impression that lots of people use that road for recreation during the summer.

bemental
07-04-2015, 15:59
Thanks for the well wishes, he seems to be much better now that he his home. Might be his last trip out on the trail, could have been his way of telling me hiking wasn't his thing (although he really does seem to love it out there, at least for a small amount of the time).

Regarding the trail, the trail is dry in some portions, and a complete wet disaster in others. So regardless of what shoe you choose, they're going to get waterlogged at times, even if it doesn't rain.

Just remember that even if you end your day with wet socks, it doesn't mean you have to start your day with them. The old trick of putting socks in your pockets while you hike, or in your sleeping bag at night to dry them out still works just fine.

Pictures of the trail:

31217 31218

chiefduffy
07-04-2015, 19:36
Glad to hear your dog is doing better. Enjoyed meeting you both!

- Chief
AT Lodge

namaste7
07-04-2015, 21:24
bemental, thanks for the pics. It looks really pretty there. Also glad to hear your pup is doing better.