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neo
11-20-2005, 13:50
this is some gear that is great for budget hammockers,here are pics of my 9 x9 digital nylon tarp,it has much better coverage than my jacks r better tarp
this tarp cost $29.99 i love it
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=9351&catid=newimages


here is a pic of my hammock sleeping bag its very compact ,it cost $24.99
it doubles as a nice hooded coat,like i said excellent budget gear for people that can not a 400 to 500 dollar quilt set or 120 tarps.
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=9352&c=newimages

i will post actual wiehgt of these 2 gear items when i wiegh them.the price
is great,they are very compact,and they function great,the wieght is ok
also,happy budget hammocking :) neo

bogey
11-20-2005, 14:04
with all that camo, I almost didn't see you. had to look twice.

several days ago, Sgt Rock and someone were talking about the pixilated patter, could you post a close up of yours please?

TIA

Bjorkin
11-20-2005, 14:15
Yeah, that digital camo sure makes for a great stealth camp. Nice.

Whistler
11-20-2005, 15:09
Sooooooo... where do you buy this stuff?
-Mark

neo
11-20-2005, 15:28
Sooooooo... where do you buy this stuff?
-Mark


i bought the tarp here

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=217705

the sleeping bag here


http://www.majorsurplusnsurvival.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=027439&Category_Code=35


happy budget hammocking:cool: neo

liv2play
11-20-2005, 16:59
Right On!!!! Please I love tips on cheap anything keep them comeing

rpettit
11-20-2005, 18:26
[quote=neo]i bought the tarp here

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=217705


How much does the tarp weigh?

rpettit
11-20-2005, 19:56
What are the packed dimensions of the tarp?

neo
11-20-2005, 21:50
What are the packed dimensions of the tarp?

here are pics of packed digtal tarp and packed desert camo hooded coat sleeping bag both are compaered to a 32 oz gatoraid bottle:cool: neo

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=9359&catid=newimages




http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=9358&c=newimages

neo
11-20-2005, 22:05
ok here it is less than 25.00 buck the hammock bag,pics in use and packed
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=9359&original=1&c=newimages



http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=9352&catid=member&imageuser=3462

here are pics of the digital tarp in use and packed:cool: neo

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=9351&catid=member&imageuser=3462



http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=9358&c=member&imageuser=3462

neo
11-21-2005, 10:18
i am gonna use these items on my next hike for sure:cool: neo

Whistler
11-21-2005, 10:19
That's good stuff. Thanks for the links.
-Mark

neo
11-21-2005, 10:24
That's good stuff. Thanks for the links.
-Marki am going to wiegh these item at the post office
today,then i will post wieght of gear:cool: neo

neo
11-22-2005, 11:26
i bought the tarp here

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=217705

the sleeping bag here


http://www.majorsurplusnsurvival.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=027439&Category_Code=35


happy budget hammocking:cool: neo

i like this tarp so well i am selling my jacks r better tarp:cool: neo

Patrick
11-22-2005, 15:11
neo,

You got a weight for us yet?

Rambler
11-22-2005, 16:26
Shipping weight is 1.5 lbs. Sales person said tarp is wrapped in light plastic, then boxed, so packaging should not add much weight. Therefore, tarp must weigh just over a pound. Jack's tarps do have adequate coverage, but if one wants more, then add some weight. I do like that camo!

rpettit
11-30-2005, 17:24
Just recieved the tarp today. I like the tarp, the camo is really cool. Neo....thanks for the heads up.

Patrick
11-30-2005, 17:47
Somebody weigh this thing! I'm on pins and needles.

Rambler, I don't trust that weight estimate. I just received 2.5 yds of 1.9 ripstop today. That should weigh under 8 oz. It came in just a Tyvek envelope, but the shipping weight listed was 3 lbs.

neo
11-30-2005, 19:48
Just recieved the tarp today. I like the tarp, the camo is really cool. Neo....thanks for the heads up.

your welcome,i used mine in the rain this past weekend,it works great:cool: neo


http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=9410&c=665&userid=3462

attroll
12-01-2005, 04:34
Waiting for weights?

Patrick
12-01-2005, 11:33
Yeah, I want to know how much this tarp weighs. I wouldn't mind picking one up myself if it's not prohibitively heavy.

peter_pan
12-01-2005, 13:52
Let's start a pool...I bet it is 20 oz....Next...

Come on Neo....post the weight like you promised....we're waiting.

Pan

neo
12-02-2005, 13:19
i will wiegh my tarp at the post office tommorrow and my hammock sniper sleeping bag lol:cool: neo



http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=9410&c=577







http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=9352&catid=member&imageuser=3462

HikeLite
12-02-2005, 17:17
It will be heavy whatever the weight is. Probably over 20 ounces.

Just Jeff
12-02-2005, 19:11
I'll guess 21.7439 oz. Closest without going over wins a lollipop.

rpettit
12-02-2005, 19:23
I think it weighs 23 oz., including it's stuff sack. I set it up with my HH in the wooded area of back yard, excellent coverage and the camo blended quite well even with most of the leaves gone. Definitely stealthy.
Patrick,
What is prohibitively heavy?

Patrick
12-02-2005, 20:56
Prohibitively heavy is in direct proportion to how cool I think the camo looks. Looking good so far.

stag3
12-02-2005, 21:36
9 yards, 1.4 per yard plus sone ties.... I say 15 oz.

neo
12-02-2005, 22:02
Prohibitively heavy is in direct proportion to how cool I think the camo looks. Looking good so far.

its an awesome hammock lol:cool: neo
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=229620


http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=9434




http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=9410&catid=member&imageuser=3462

rpettit
12-03-2005, 09:05
This is how well the camo works. Look at the center, I'm 40ft away looking through some trees with 75% of their leaves gone.

Youngblood
12-03-2005, 10:40
This is how well the camo works. Look at the center, I'm 40ft away looking through some trees with 75% of their leaves gone.
Yes, camo does work. However, when I am backpacking on hiking trails I don't really see the advantage in my hammock (or tarp) being hard to spot, actually I prefer it being visible. I'm not trying to hide from anyone near my campsite and when hunters occasional walk through the area (and they have several times when I have hammock camped off trail) I want them to recognise that I am there and associate any sounds or movements I may be making with me. It also helps me 're-find' my campsite when I go away from it for whatever reason.

So, just what is the advantage in being hard to see along backpacking trails where no one is pursuing you and what you have to worry about is being mistaken for something else? Especially in hunting season where it is advisable to wear bright orange. The last hunting accident with a hiker along the AT in Georgia that I recall involved a young woman going off-trail away from her campsite to squat behind bushes to take care of personal business at dawn. I figure she didn't bother to wear any bright colors as she was trying to not be visible (of course) and was mistaken for a deer. After that I wear my red jacket on these nature runs during deer hunting season and throw it on top of either the bush I am behind or one nearby.

Youngblood

neo
12-03-2005, 10:46
This is how well the camo works. Look at the center, I'm 40ft away looking through some trees with 75% of their leaves gone.

really cool pics:cool: neo

rpettit
12-03-2005, 10:54
There is no advantage. It's just a relatively inexspensive, quality tarp solution. And as previously stated, the camo does look cool. If you want to be seen more easily, tie some of that bright orange plastic strips to the ridgeline tie outs. If you want to be more stealthy, don't.

Whistler
12-03-2005, 11:02
To paraphrase Walter from The Big Lebowksi: "Say what you will about the tenets of camouflage, Dude, at least it's an ethos..."
-Mark

Youngblood
12-03-2005, 11:10
There is no advantage. It's just a relatively inexspensive, quality tarp solution. And as previously stated, the camo does look cool. If you want to be seen more easily, tie some of that bright orange plastic strips to the ridgeline tie outs. If you want to be more stealthy, don't.
Okay, fair enough.:) I realized that I had forgot to mention that a lot of us use high visibility guylines on our tarps just before I saw your post. I think every cord, rope or guyline I use is selected in part by how visible it is.

Back when I used a Hennessy Hammock I once had hunter's (father and son I think) that came through my camp at first light. I was on an old overgrown logging road. I was already awake and heard their footsteps crunching leafs. As they got close I heard the son ask the father "What is that?". The reply was "I think it is a hammock". About 5 seconds later there is this thump where one off them hit one of my lines... I don't recall whether it was a suspension line or a tarp guyline, but it made an impression on me about visibility.

Different strokes for different folks... enjoy your tarp, it does look neat.

Youngblood

Youngblood
12-03-2005, 11:59
To paraphrase Walter from The Big Lebowksi: "Say what you will about the tenets of camouflage, Dude, at least it's an ethos..."
-Mark

I got a good laugh out of that... after I got out my dictionary and looked up a couple of words.

Whistler, I have a question for you: If you can't be seen, are you really there?

Whistler
12-03-2005, 12:25
I got a good laugh out of that... after I got out my dictionary and looked up a couple of words.

Whistler, I have a question for you: If you can't be seen, are you really there?
Hmm. This is getting deep. But yes: if I'm there, I can't be anywhere else... from my experience, anyway. :o

Oh, and my money is on 21.7oz... just waitin' on Neo-->:cool:
-Mark

Just Jeff
12-03-2005, 14:21
I'll guess 21.7439 oz. Closest without going over wins a lollipop.

And then...


Oh, and my money is on 21.7oz...

Somebody's been getting strategy from Price is Right and trying to steal my lollipop!! :datz

I still have 0.0439 oz to spare, though...:jump

Youngblood
12-03-2005, 14:23
Answer: Only if you want to be... said the snake on the edge of the trail.

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=5827&c=665&userid=41

http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/vbg/showimage.php?i=5826&c=665&userid=41

For some reason this camo stuff reminded me of a few things, one was when someone once said that they weren't any snakes along the trail... because they hadn't seen any, of course. I pointed out to them that just because they didn't see any snakes doesn't mean that snakes didn't see them.

That camo tarp would be 9'x9' by its rectangular dimensions, right or 9 yd^2?

Bjorkin
12-03-2005, 14:37
"Well? We're waiting!" - Judge Smails, Caddyshack

Sirrahd
12-03-2005, 14:51
I still have 0.0439 oz to spare, though...:jump

21.744 oz:bse

rpettit
12-03-2005, 15:08
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That camo tarp would be 9'x9' by its rectangular dimensions, right or 9 yd^2?[/quote]

The camo tarp is 9'x9'. The stuff sack is made out of the same material as the tarp and it comes with 4, 11-1/2 foot guylines with guyline tensioners. The guylines and tensioners are black, so the whole package is definitely low vis. I agree that it is a good idea to make yourself visible during deer hunting season, while hiking or camping, but in the off-season I'm not concerned about it.

Bjorkin
12-03-2005, 15:13
For us non-hunters, when is deer season?

rpettit
12-03-2005, 15:22
Deer season
Bow season Sept 10-Oct 7
Muzzle loaders Oct 8-Oct 14
Gun season Oct 15-Jan 1

Bear season Nov 7-12
Dec 5-17

This is in North Carolina.

neo
12-03-2005, 15:56
Hmm. This is getting deep. But yes: if I'm there, I can't be anywhere else... from my experience, anyway. :o

Oh, and my money is on 21.7oz... just waitin' on Neo-->:cool:
-Mark

my tarp weighed in at 1 lb 5.8 oz on the scale at the post office
which means 21.8 oz

my sniper parka sleeping bag wieghed in at 2 lbs 14.6 oz

not bad for excellent budget priced gear.:cool: neo

Patrick
12-03-2005, 16:38
neo, sounds good. Thanks a lot for getting that weight. Does that include the guy lines?

Just Jeff
12-04-2005, 04:21
my tarp weighed in at...21.8 oz

Holy crap - beat out by 0.0001 oz!

Sirrahd, PM me your address and I'll send your lollipop...

Big Guy
12-04-2005, 11:50
Neo: Any idea as to waht the cold weather rating is on the sniper parka/sleeping bag?

neo
12-04-2005, 15:52
neo, sounds good. Thanks a lot for getting that weight. Does that include the guy lines?

yes,but i cut them shorter,:cool: neo

hammock engineer
12-07-2005, 12:44
I was looking at everyone's tarp picks. On my HH, I am going to start trying the tarp directly to the trees as opposed to the hammock. I think that this will make setup and takedown easier, especially in the rain. It will also do away with the need for self tensioning modifications to the tarp.

For the other people who do this, do you run a new ridgeline across the 2 trees, or do you tie the ends of the tarp directly to the tree? Trying the tarp directly to the tree would do away with the need to attach it to the ridgeline, and you would be able to use less rope.

neo
12-07-2005, 15:53
Neo: Any idea as to waht the cold weather rating is on the sniper parka/sleeping bag?

i can go way lower than most people,right clothing and pad 20 degrees for me,for most people mid 30,s:cool:

neo
12-07-2005, 15:55
I was looking at everyone's tarp picks. On my HH, I am going to start trying the tarp directly to the trees as opposed to the hammock. I think that this will make setup and takedown easier, especially in the rain. It will also do away with the need for self tensioning modifications to the tarp.

For the other people who do this, do you run a new ridgeline across the 2 trees, or do you tie the ends of the tarp directly to the tree? Trying the tarp directly to the tree would do away with the need to attach it to the ridgeline, and you would be able to use less rope.

i always tie off to tree's with my tarp,in the rain first thing i do is get my tarp up,and when breaking camp last thing i do is take my tarp down:cool: neo

Tinker
12-07-2005, 15:58
But I borrowed some ideas from the Speers Hammock website, and came up with this:

http://community.webshots.com/album/237103382ByZIeG

Only problem is that the down migrates with gravity, and the top gets cooler as the night wears on. The tighter the bag fits around the hammock and user, the less this happens. A synthetic bag would cure the problem altogether.

neo
12-07-2005, 16:06
But I borrowed some ideas from the Speers Hammock website, and came up with this:

http://community.webshots.com/album/237103382ByZIeG

Only problem is that the down migrates with gravity, and the top gets cooler as the night wears on. The tighter the bag fits around the hammock and user, the less this happens. A synthetic bag would cure the problem altogether.

cool pics tinker:cool: neo

Sirrahd
12-09-2005, 22:15
Holy crap - beat out by 0.0001 oz!

Sirrahd, PM me your address and I'll send your lollipop...

Wow, that's the first thing I've ever won! I'm going to Disney World!

I'll just pick one up at the bank next time I'm there and consider it my parting gift. Plus it would just get broken through shipping.

Just Jeff
12-10-2005, 00:23
Haha...enjoy your prize!

neo
07-06-2006, 15:11
i am going to use this tarp, http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=97247 with this hammock:cool: neo

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=274990&pn=7

Ewker
07-06-2006, 15:20
that is the one I asked you about. I want to see your setup when you get it up. I am still thinking about ordering that myself. It is cheap and I don't want to spend big bucks on something I may not like

jazilla
07-07-2006, 11:15
Neo,
on the the Anti-Mosquito Ultra-light Hammock, Camo where do you tie the insect net lines when using a tarp?

neo
07-07-2006, 11:20
Neo,
on the the Anti-Mosquito Ultra-light Hammock, Camo where do you tie the insect net lines when using a tarp?

connect them to each end of the tarp with elastic cord:cool: neo

jazilla
07-07-2006, 16:16
[quote=neo]connect them to each end of the tarp with elastic cord:cool: neo

And this works for you to keep the net out of your face. I ask cause its a present for my brother and I want him to be satisfied with it. He wanted a Hennessey and I love him but not that much. Oh I'm a twin.

neo
07-07-2006, 17:12
[quote=neo]connect them to each end of the tarp with elastic cord:cool: neo

And this works for you to keep the net out of your face. I ask cause its a present for my brother and I want him to be satisfied with it. He wanted a Hennessey and I love him but not that much. Oh I'm a twin.


:D it works for me:cool: neo

jazilla
07-10-2006, 13:43
cool thanks a lot Neo