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soccpacker
07-06-2015, 15:28
I have a severe peanut allergy and looking at doing the trail next year and would love to see what people recommend I look into for food since I can't get my protein from nuts.
Pedaling Fool
07-06-2015, 16:04
Are you saying you're allergic to nuts, because you're allergic to peanuts? The peanut is not an actual NUT, rather it's actually a legume, i.e. like a bean.
I've heard a lot about peanut allergies and I never thought about it, but that doesn't mean you're allergic to nuts, right? Seems like if anything you're chances would be higher to be allergic to some other type legume or bean.
Pedaling Fool
07-06-2015, 16:06
Are you saying you're allergic to nuts, because you're allergic to peanuts? The peanut is not an actual NUT, rather it's actually a legume, i.e. like a bean.
I've heard a lot about peanut allergies and I never thought about it, but that doesn't mean you're allergic to nuts, right? Seems like if anything you're chances would be higher to be allergic to some other type legume or bean.Nevermind, I guess you do have to worry about tree nuts http://kidshealth.org/teen/food_fitness/nutrition/nut_allergy.html
soccpacker
07-06-2015, 16:08
I am severely allergic to Peanuts and have to carry and Epipen and allergic to tree nuts but not severely.
I have a severe cashew and pistachio allergy. Snack-wise, you could do sunflower seeds/dried fruit/granola/jerky. For meals, quinoa or black bean dishes are great options that have protein.
rocketsocks
07-06-2015, 16:20
Walnuts I'm allergic to, pecans not so much, go figur.
What's the difference between beer nuts and deer nuts?
rocketsocks
07-06-2015, 16:21
Sesame treats are awesome! Grew up eatin' them damn things, love em!
johnnybgood
07-06-2015, 17:07
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What's the difference between beer nuts and deer nuts?
Beer nuts are a buck twenty-five ...Deer nuts are under a buck :-)
Just Tom
07-06-2015, 17:59
Check out http://Candicefoods.com, they make nut free energy bars that actually taste good.
Just Tom
07-06-2015, 18:18
Expensive as hell, but another protein bar option can be found at http://bricksbars.com though at what point do you just pack some jerky?
And if you have a nut allergy I assume you are familiar with Sun Butter, stuff is awesome.
rocketsocks
07-06-2015, 19:08
Beer nuts are a buck twenty-five ...Deer nuts are under a buck :-)
Winner winner chicken dinner.
Stink Bug
07-06-2015, 19:54
I have a peanut allergy also and I thru hiked in 2013, only thing it meant for me was I couldn't eat the Snickers or Reeses that were in the trail magic! Food wise I ate plenty of quinoa, couscous, oatmeal and, of course stuffing my face in town!
Spirit Walker
07-06-2015, 22:26
My husband doesn't eat any kind of nuts (not allergic, just hates them). Protein was in cheese, sausage, spam, tuna, salmon, chicken, milk, and deli meats. If you're vegetarian or vegan, then it's harder. Snacks are usually nutless GORP (raisins, craisins and chocolate or butterscotch or M&Ms), dried fruit, chocolate bars, granola bars.
Mouser999
07-24-2015, 15:47
Due to allergies in the Pre-school where my daughter teaches, they use Sunbutter, though she says a lot of kids are not thrilled by it. Maybe you can see if they have a single size ample you can try
Just Tom
07-24-2015, 16:16
Sun Butter is great. I doubt, in a blind taste test, the majority of people could tell the difference.
Snacks are usually nutless GORP (raisins, craisins and chocolate or butterscotch or M&Ms), dried fruit, chocolate bars, granola bars.
So in other words, GOR? ;)
How about pumpkin seeds, and lentils have the same amount of protein as peanut butter. also greek style yogurt has the same amount for weight you will need to find it freeze dried which is not easy.
Check out this place. My son is severely allergic to nuts/tree nuts as well.
http://www.mygerbs.com/
MuddyWaters
09-29-2015, 07:46
You just have to avoid nuts, and things made in facilities that handle nuts (many candy bars, etc)
You can eat everything else . Oatmeal, poptarts, breakfast pastries, many cookies and crackers, cereal, nido, jerky, tortillas, tuna, humus, refried beans, soup mixes, beef sticks, cheese, pasta dinners, little debbie snacks, chocolate, dried fruit, precooked bacon, etc
Im not a big fan of the sun butter, but some scouts liked it in our crew at philmont, my son was one.
Im not a big fan of the sun butter, but some scouts liked it in our crew at philmont, my son was one.
I prefer Wowbutter to Sun butter, but my son won't eat either since it is too much like peanut butter. But sunbutter has small serving packs and wowbutter is jars only so you have to repack. If I go without the family it's all about the MRE peanut butter, just for old times.
How do you know you're allergic?
[Nicholas Christakis has said that measures taken (especially in schools) to ensure allergic children are not exposed to peanut allergens are disproportional to the actual risk of such exposure.[24][32] Dr. Christakis has also said that popular responses to the danger of peanut allergies "bear many of the hallmarks of mass psychogenic illness."]
My experience is that many who claim they're allergic need to examine their knowledge base. I'm not saying you're not allergic, as I wouldn't have any basis to make such a claim. I am saying that many that make such claims need to seriously examine whether there's a real basis to make such a claim.
rocketsocks
09-30-2015, 04:20
I have a severe peanut allergy and looking at doing the trail next year and would love to see what people recommend I look into for food since I can't get my protein from nuts.dried meat (jerky).
Pedaling Fool
10-09-2015, 08:48
Interesting article on possible solution to the peanut allergy issue https://www.inverse.com/article/6444-aranex-biotech-is-genetically-engineering-a-hypoallergenic-peanut
P.S. If this comes to be true, it won't be anytime soon, but interesting little read and there's a video on the link.
Feral Bill
10-09-2015, 12:18
How do you know you're allergic?
[Nicholas Christakis has said that measures taken (especially in schools) to ensure allergic children are not exposed to peanut allergens are disproportional to the actual risk of such exposure.[24][32] Dr. Christakis has also said that popular responses to the danger of peanut allergies "bear many of the hallmarks of mass psychogenic illness."]
My experience is that many who claim they're allergic need to examine their knowledge base. I'm not saying you're not allergic, as I wouldn't have any basis to make such a claim. I am saying that many that make such claims need to seriously examine whether there's a real basis to make such a claim.
Some years ago a child on a school trip died when given food with peanuts. He had a known alergy. Lawyers had a field day. This in Spokane, WA. That's why schools are hyper vigilant.
I work with lots of immigrants and many years ago I started to wonder about illnesses and how they're related to cultural expectations. The subject came up after someone mentioned illnesses related to race. I asked people from different cultures and nations what illnesses were common here but unheard of in their home countries. I was surprising how much is culturally related. Chinese almost have never heard of peanut allergies. Yet here we carry on as it's a real medical condition. Just casually looking at various sites will cause one to question if it's psychosomatic. Recently a family from Denmark of African origin whose extremely allergic to peanuts visited my residence. They didn't notice the peanuts, but claimed that merely being in a residence with peanuts would cause a reaction. I didn't tell them that they failed the test. Many parents are convinced their children have allergies, but never notice that the children are eating the foods without reaction. Several relatives claimed certain allergies yet consume the foods inadvertently without reactions until i'll point out their favorite whatever contains the food their allergic to. Instead of accepting that their not allergic they'll announce that it only affects them when combined with certain other foods. Hence my skepticism.
Feral Bill
10-10-2015, 01:33
I agree that many people's allergies are not real. Some, however, are very real. Even gluten is dangerous to a portion of these who fancy themselves gluten intolerant. Food and health idiocy abounds, regardless.
From what I understand they actually may finally have a treatment to dramatically decrease the response to the peanut fungus to where its not life threatening anymore.
I'm allergic to wheat, peas, carrots (parsley, celery, etc), but not peanuts or soybeans. Mine allergy is a delayed reaction main symptom is that my immune system starts attacking my esophagus. Pretty annoying, lived with it for decades until a few years ago. The allergy doesn't show up on a scratch test, you have to "wear" the food for several days for a reaction to register.
Also annoying is when I ask people if something has wheat in it they'll tell me "its gluten free" at which point I typically say "If doesn't have the gluten I don't want it!". I guess having more choices because of the gluten inteolerant people isn't a bad thing. I just hate asking direct questions about wheat then getting an answer that's not about wheat.
MuddyWaters
10-11-2015, 15:14
[Nicholas Christakis has said that measures taken (especially in schools) to ensure allergic children are not exposed to peanut allergens are disproportional to the actual risk of such exposure.[24][32] Dr. Christakis has also said that popular responses to the danger of peanut allergies "bear many of the hallmarks of mass psychogenic illness."]
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Im no allergy specialist, but it does seem overblown. Some people are allergic to almost anything and everythin. At some point it just sucks to be you.
Wheat
Gluten
Soybean
Eggs
Dairy
Fish
Shellfish
Nuts
Spices
Chocolate
Cut grass
Down
Latex
Insects
Animal dander
Dust
Ive encountered school concession stands at ball games that didnt sell peanut mms or snickers due to peanuts. Didnt want to be responsible for some kid eating something they shouldnt.
Whats left schools can serve kids to eat? Engineered crapola.
I find it amazing that the human race didn't disappear from the face of the earth shortly after we took up residence in caves.
Wayne
Sent from somewhere around here.
I find it amazing that the human race didn't disappear from the face of the earth shortly after we took up residence in caves.
Sent from somewhere around here.
Just because allergies couldn't be diagnosed didn't mean they didn't exist. What we don't know is the extent that allergies may or may not have gotten worse in modern times.
By today's numbers, infant mortality:
afghanistan: 187.5 per 1000 births
united states: 5.2 per 1000 births
Between 1950 and today south korea's infant mortality went from 137.95 to 3.76 deaths per 1000 births.
Some percentage of these saved lives is due to identification of childhood allergies, amongst many other factors.
MuddyWaters
10-11-2015, 20:57
Darwins might say, by coddling our weak and allowing them to mature and reproduces, we are weakening our species ourselves. In many ways. Modern society has short-circuited natural selection and we are regressing. We protect and support the intellectually inferior, and the natural weaknesses.
Feral Bill
10-11-2015, 21:39
Darwins might say, by coddling our weak and allowing them to mature and reproduces, we are weakening our species ourselves. In many ways. Modern society has short-circuited natural selection and we are regressing. We protect and support the intellectually inferior, and the natural weaknesses.
But he did not. He was a social progressive in many ways, and would have been appalled. The gross and immoral consequences of this line of thought are all too well documented.
MuddyWaters
10-11-2015, 21:49
But he did not. He was a social progressive in many ways, and would have been appalled. The gross and immoral consequences of this line of thought are all too well documented.
Stating an obvious effect that happens, and espousing policy based on it, are two entirely separate things.