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Spacelord
10-05-2015, 08:06
Leaving tomorrow for a sixty mile hike and I'll be taking a set of Black Diamond trekking poles. Never used a set before, got am cheap and hope that they will come in handy for creek crossings (like most in the east we've got a lot of rain this week) and some steep, muddy downhills. Any advice from the experienced ?

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Gambit McCrae
10-05-2015, 08:15
I would say don't try and rely on the too much. I mainly carry them, not lean on them when hiking. They help me with balance, I don't know if there was 1 stream crossing in the first 550 miles of the trail that I have needed my poles for. Probably are a lot in Maine but I use them for balance in rocky places.

I use them for my shelter as well.

Odd Man Out
10-05-2015, 08:24
Make sure you know how to use the straps correctly. I have BD poles and they have very nice straps. On my first trip with them I considered getting rid of rhe straps however I did a test first and hiked one day with them and one day without them. I was surprised to find how much they helped. However you a also hear that there is a correct rhythm to use. I ignore that most of the time and just move the poles at random times not coordinated with steps. The exception is on a steel uphill I will pole with every step.

Traveler
10-05-2015, 08:46
Strap adjustment and getting your hands into them properly is probably the most important aspect to trekking poles. The straps should allow you to let go of the poles and let your hands hang by the wrist at or near where you would grip the handles. Pole height should be set so your arms are at 90 degrees to your body when you grip them.

Don't worry about rhythm for a while, in fact you can easily overthink pole use and get tangled up when you first start using them. They are the most Zen tool you have, the less you think about them, the more naturally you will use them. Much as Odd Man Out said, I use them on most every step going up steep inclines as a way to keep cadence.

If you stand on a scale and place hold the poles on the floor, you'll likely see your weigh decrease. Put slight pressure on them, weight decreases more. This is probably the best demonstration of how your weight transfers to the poles and to ground. This effect is what helps joints and tendons withstand some of the routine pounding that steep downhills can produce. Research suggests between 20% and 30% of the impacts in hiking are absorbed by these tools. I know they have added at least a decade to my hiking career, if not more.

atmilkman
10-05-2015, 08:59
After taking a break don't walk off leaving them leaning up against a tree. I've seen many people do this that were using poles for the first time. A couple of miles down the trail once or twice will be a good cure though.

rafe
10-05-2015, 09:10
On level or gently sloping terrain, the poles are mostly for balance.

On steep ascents or descents, they're a way to get your upper body into the picture -- either lifting you up the hill, or easing you down as the case may be.

On extreme steeps, you may need to fold up the poles and use your hands. Occasionally you'll find (for example) ladders or rebar, or steps notched into steep rock faces. (Eg., Beaver Creek trail down the north slope of Mt. Moosilauke.)

Or, on extreme steeps, you might just loop the poles around your hands and let them drag. Or if it's a short steep descent -- throw the poles ahead so your hands are free for the gnarly part.

On a recent hike on some pretty nasty terrain (Mahoosucs in southern Maine) I tried a hybrid one-pole approach. This leaves one hand free to deal with the terrain, and one hand with a hiking pole.

Whatever happens, don't be afraid to experiment and give yourself time to learn. For me, poles were a no-brainer, but that might be because I've skied since I was a kid.

elray
10-05-2015, 09:42
All great advice but don't overthink them, adjust them to the length that feels most comfortable and try not to kick them, after a day you'll be an expert.

squeezebox
10-05-2015, 10:15
Put your name address phone number on them, maybe one of those return address tags with clear tape over it.

donthaveoneyet
10-05-2015, 11:23
I started using poles about three years ago. After some back and forth, and reading, and after falling down once with my hand caught in a strap, I took the straps off. Recently bought a new pair and immediately took them off. Phillip Werner did a post on this topic a while back, which is kind of interesting. Obviously a personal choice.

http://sectionhiker.com/reader-poll-do-you-use-trekking-pole-straps/

paule
10-05-2015, 11:34
Yes good point,also don't leave them leaning on your truck when driving away after your hike.

Odd Man Out
10-05-2015, 12:04
...On extreme steeps, you may need to fold up the poles and use your hands. Occasionally you'll find (for example) ladders or rebar, or steps notched into steep rock faces. (Eg., Beaver Creek trail down the north slope of Mt. Moosilauke.)...

I was halfway down the steep scramble from Dragon's Tooth before I realized the poles were hurting more than helping. Note to self....

Fredt4
10-05-2015, 23:13
I started using poles about three years ago. After some back and forth, and reading, and after falling down once with my hand caught in a strap, I took the straps off. Recently bought a new pair and immediately took them off. Phillip Werner did a post on this topic a while back, which is kind of interesting. Obviously a personal choice.

http://sectionhiker.com/reader-poll-do-you-use-trekking-pole-straps/

Some people never learn to use their equipment properly. The straps are there for a reason. Your hands go up into the straps not down into them. Trekking poles are some of the best pieces of hiking gear you'll carry.

cycle003
10-05-2015, 23:48
Some people never learn to use their equipment properly. The straps are there for a reason. Your hands go up into the straps not down into them. Trekking poles are some of the best pieces of hiking gear you'll carry.

I agree. Using the straps this way should allow the pole to slip off if you fall. I'm a fairly new trekking pole user, and I now find myself missing them if I don't have them.

Rmcpeak
10-07-2015, 16:52
keep your grip loose and let 'em swing


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Neemor
10-08-2015, 01:44
It's kinda like walking, but your arms move too. [emoji57]

Casey & Gina
10-08-2015, 02:33
We use the heck out of ours - rarely is there a brief spell where they get carried. They just make everything easier and gentler on the body. I especially appreciate them on descents where they really give me a feeling of having 4 legs and make me feel both very secure and reduce the stress on my sensitive knees. We also use them to pitch our tent. Last weekend we forgot the poles at the house, which made things interesting. It was manageable but more strain on the legs slowed us down. Had to find a couple trees the right distance apart to pitch the tent using paracord tied to the trees rather than poles, which worked out just fine but took a while to locate. I was tempted to cut off the straps at first but then learned the correct way of using them at which point they also became something I really appreciate as a distinct benefit, rather than finding useless. I carry a fair amount of weight though - often around 50 pounds with food and water - and wear very minimalist shoes, so they probably benefit me more than average.

wormer
10-08-2015, 08:53
About a year ago I switched to putting my hands down through the straps. On the 100 MW I fell forward and the strap tightened around my wrist keeping the pole upright so I could regain my balance. If my hand would have came off the grip, I am sure I would have fallen. I would recommend you experiment with what works best for you and HYOH

tflaris
10-08-2015, 09:38
keep your grip loose and let 'em swing


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+1. That's how I like them.


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Spacelord
10-09-2015, 21:35
Well, on day one I stumbled around like a drunk sailor.
On day two I spent most of the day staring down watching were the poles touched down. Day three and four things are much smoother, I have the straps adjusted much better, not focused solely on the poles has helped.

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Kulliman
10-11-2015, 17:37
Trekking poles are awesome!!!
-They make it easier getting up hills
-They make it easier getting down hills
-They give you balance and extra legs while stone stepping across streams
-They give you support with those gnarly steep steps that are often also muddy
-They give you assistance in maneuvering blowdowns
-They are useful in moving prickly vines and sticky spider webs
-They keep your hand from swelling
-They prevent you from slipping too far on the mud
-They catch you from spraining your ankle on little dips and holes
-They make great tent poles
-Using the stickPic with trekking poles you can take awesome selfies

Disco
10-11-2015, 18:21
When I get tired or short of breath or feeling like I'm going to pass out, I like to rest for awhile by leaning over and placing my hands/pole handles against my upper chest and letting the trekking poles hold me up. Beats sitting down, especially if there isn't a good place to sit. Poles have saved me from falls, too. Mine are very inexpensive, but do their job.

Hummy585
10-11-2015, 19:32
I'm on my second season with a set of BD Distance Carbon Z-Poles and I feel they help a lot. I use them pretty all the way except on steep sections (up or down) where I feel I need my hands. I'm full of metal plates, pins and screws, I need all the help I can get...Funny thing, I met my first real AT hikers three years ago and they explained the poles thing to me.

poolskaterx
11-19-2015, 00:40
Take your time and get aquainted with them; uphill pole use is very different from down hill. Gripping the top of your poles vs hands down on the grips also make your poles act differently. I like my straps tight enough that my hand strength is not what keep them in place and I can let them float in my hands between strides. I like lightwieght mtb gloves when I use poles, the provide a little protection from grip and keep my hands from feeling gritty. Just my .02