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Bronk
03-22-2016, 10:15
http://www.backpacker.com/view/videos/survival-videos/survival-school-how-to-eat-your-hiking-partner/

illabelle
03-22-2016, 10:25
Haha!
Haha!
Haha!

nsherry61
03-22-2016, 11:49
Well done!

displacedbeatnik
03-22-2016, 12:50
More reason to solo hike.

tiptoe
03-22-2016, 13:28
Click-bait alert! I bet this gets picked up by Gawker or Twitter. I guess I too will continue hiking alone.

Mr. Sparky
03-22-2016, 19:59
Ha Ha!!! Hilarious!

AlyontheAT2016
03-22-2016, 20:51
oh dear...

Diamondlil
03-22-2016, 21:41
Hehehehe!


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Sarcasm the elf
03-22-2016, 22:03
He was using a Bear Grylls knife so you know he meant business.
:banana

rocketsocks
03-22-2016, 23:09
Eat Me! :D

rocketsocks
03-22-2016, 23:19
Anyone got a good recipe for cheek meat?

tflaris
03-23-2016, 10:30
http://www.villagevoice.com/restaurants/4-easy-to-make-cannibal-recipes-6546041


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zelph
03-23-2016, 22:27
Take small bites!

Cannibalism amoung the Donner Party has been highly exaggerated, but it is something that did occur. However, assumptions have become a part of general knowledge.

The Donner Party possibly did not resort to cannibalism at least until February or early March, except the Forlorn Hope, but appearantly everyone was thinking of the subject at least before the Forlorn Hope had left Truckee Lake. This is based on the first mention of cannibalism ever written, in Patrick Breen's Diary from February 26th, 1846: "...Mrs.Murphy said here yesterday that [she] thought she would commence on Milt and eat him. I don't think she has done so yet, [but] it is distresing. The Donno[r]s told the California folks that they [would] commence to eat the dead people 4 days ago, if they did not succeed in finding their cattle then under ten or twelve feet of snow & did not know the spot or near it, I suppose they have [cannibalized] ...ere this time."

However one account involves cannibalism just after the Forlorn Hope left the lake, stating the Donners partook of the reamains of Sam. Shoemaker. However, some consider the accounts of Alder Creek shady, as many of the informants were very young children at the time, and few adults who stayed at Alder Creek survived.

We know the the Forlorn Hope, the Breens, Graves and Donners at Starved Camp, and those who were at the lake after the first relief, esp. the Murphys and Lewis Keseberg survived by cannibalism. It is possible those at the lake and perhaps Alder Creek who left with the First Relief never ate the dead. When William Eddy discovered that the bodies of his family had been mutilated by Keseberg, he threatened to kill Keseberg if they ever met again. The bodies were mutilated but identifiable, not bad considering people had survived on them for long over a month. Furthermore, most were careful to avoid eating the bodies of their family. Not nearly as morbid as many people believed the story of the Donner party to be.

To know who cannibalized is hard, as few were brave enough to admit the grotesque act, and our knowledge of cannibalism mostly comes of the accounts of others who "didn't" cannibalize and the discovery of terribly mutilated corpses by the rescuers. Some supposedly found it too hard to eat of the others, though this could be an exaggeration.

The only characters that have been known to have avoided cannibalism are those who died in or before December, as well as James Reed and William McCutchen. The two Indians, Luis and Salvadore, are also said to have avoided eating the bodies of the dead with the Forlorn Hope. A fair estimate said that at least half the Donner Party survived by cannibalism, however most of the survivors were in this half. (Only about half of the Donner Party survived.)

Mortality:
There were 91 in the Donner Party, including those who died before the winter, e.g. Sarah Keyes; and those who joined the party later, e.g., Luis & Salvadore. Of the 91, 44 died, and 47 survived. Ages taken from July 31, 1846.

Minos
03-23-2016, 23:14
Take small bites!

Cannibalism amoung the Donner Party has been highly exaggerated, but it is something that did occur. However, assumptions have become a part of general knowledge.

The Donner Party possibly did not resort to cannibalism at least until February or early March, except the Forlorn Hope, but appearantly everyone was thinking of the subject at least before the Forlorn Hope had left Truckee Lake. This is based on the first mention of cannibalism ever written, in Patrick Breen's Diary from February 26th, 1846: "...Mrs.Murphy said here yesterday that [she] thought she would commence on Milt and eat him. I don't think she has done so yet, [but] it is distresing. The Donno[r]s told the California folks that they [would] commence to eat the dead people 4 days ago, if they did not succeed in finding their cattle then under ten or twelve feet of snow & did not know the spot or near it, I suppose they have [cannibalized] ...ere this time."

However one account involves cannibalism just after the Forlorn Hope left the lake, stating the Donners partook of the reamains of Sam. Shoemaker. However, some consider the accounts of Alder Creek shady, as many of the informants were very young children at the time, and few adults who stayed at Alder Creek survived.

We know the the Forlorn Hope, the Breens, Graves and Donners at Starved Camp, and those who were at the lake after the first relief, esp. the Murphys and Lewis Keseberg survived by cannibalism. It is possible those at the lake and perhaps Alder Creek who left with the First Relief never ate the dead. When William Eddy discovered that the bodies of his family had been mutilated by Keseberg, he threatened to kill Keseberg if they ever met again. The bodies were mutilated but identifiable, not bad considering people had survived on them for long over a month. Furthermore, most were careful to avoid eating the bodies of their family. Not nearly as morbid as many people believed the story of the Donner party to be.

To know who cannibalized is hard, as few were brave enough to admit the grotesque act, and our knowledge of cannibalism mostly comes of the accounts of others who "didn't" cannibalize and the discovery of terribly mutilated corpses by the rescuers. Some supposedly found it too hard to eat of the others, though this could be an exaggeration.

The only characters that have been known to have avoided cannibalism are those who died in or before December, as well as James Reed and William McCutchen. The two Indians, Luis and Salvadore, are also said to have avoided eating the bodies of the dead with the Forlorn Hope. A fair estimate said that at least half the Donner Party survived by cannibalism, however most of the survivors were in this half. (Only about half of the Donner Party survived.)

Mortality:
There were 91 in the Donner Party, including those who died before the winter, e.g. Sarah Keyes; and those who joined the party later, e.g., Luis & Salvadore. Of the 91, 44 died, and 47 survived. Ages taken from July 31, 1846.

Were they serving kebabs at said party?

zelph
03-24-2016, 14:05
Were they serving kebabs at said party?

I suspect sushi style ;-)

zelph
03-24-2016, 14:16
1972 Andes flight disaster

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Andes_flight_disaster

Cannibal
05-31-2016, 17:04
Take small bites!
Along with many, many grains of salt. Forced confessions, later recanted, can hardly be called evidence. ;)
My "name" is due to the Donner family being right there on my family tree. So I'm about as biased as the stories of cannibalism...but I do like the name. :D

Connie
05-31-2016, 18:30
The video won't play.

Maybe the server won't handle the announcement made here?

I hike alone.. anyway.

newtgirl
05-31-2016, 20:53
I remember watching an episode of "I shouldn't be alive" or something along those lines. This young man is lost in the Amazon with his dog. He finally reaches that point and kills the dog, attempts to eat it, and finds the thought so vile he vomits it all back up.

This disturbed me on a deep level, and has never left me.

zelph
06-03-2016, 07:59
Along with many, many grains of salt. Forced confessions, later recanted, can hardly be called evidence. ;)


A quote from the above report:


To know who cannibalized is hard, as few were brave enough to admit the grotesque act, and our knowledge of cannibalism mostly comes of the accounts of others who "didn't" cannibalize and the discovery of terribly mutilated corpses by the rescuers. Some supposedly found it too hard to eat of the others, though this could be an exaggeration.

swjohnsey
06-03-2016, 13:18
Is this another Miley Cyrus thread?

kayak karl
06-03-2016, 13:47
Feed me :) https://youtu.be/L7SkrYF8lCU

Sarcasm the elf
06-03-2016, 13:54
Is this another Miley Cyrus thread?

More of a Game of Thrones discussion.

gotts63
05-26-2017, 10:06
way too funny

Tipi Walter
05-26-2017, 10:31
Zelph---Regarding the Donner party---Don't forget the two Indians who were murdered just so they could be eaten.

zelph
05-26-2017, 17:42
Give us a link to where we can read they were murdered to be eaten, please.

Ethesis
05-26-2017, 20:05
You need this cookbook from the Amra guys:

https://www.amazon.com/Serve-Man-Cookbook-People/dp/1880448823

Crazy Larry #1
05-26-2017, 20:30
http://www.backpacker.com/view/videos/survival-videos/survival-school-how-to-eat-your-hiking-partner/

Won't load for me............

Tipi Walter
05-26-2017, 21:52
Give us a link to where we can read they were murdered to be eaten, please.

See---
A Donner Party member murdered two people for use as food. During the “Forlorn Hope” expedition, the hiking party included a pair of Indians named Salvador and Luis, both of whom had joined up with the Donner emigrants shortly before they became snowbound. The natives were the only members of the group who refused to engage in cannibalism, and they later ran off out of fear that they might be murdered once the others ran out of meat. When the duo was found days later, exhausted and lying in the snow, an emigrant named William Foster shot both of them in the head. The Indians were then butchered and eaten by the hikers. It was the only time during the entire winter that people were murdered for use as food.

Source---
http://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-should-know-about-the-donner-party

Also this from Wiki timeline---

January 9, 1847: Snowshoers: About this time, the surviving snowshoers come upon Luis and Salvador, lying exhausted and near death. William Foster shoots them; their bodies provide food for their erstwhile companions.

From---
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donner_Party_timeline

zelph
05-27-2017, 08:52
Thank you :-) Now to do more reading.

Tipi Walter
05-27-2017, 09:08
Thank you :-) Now to do more reading.

Back in December 2003 I pulled a long backpacking trip and got stuck in a butt cold rain for 4 days at one spot near Citico Creek in TN and luckily brought this book to kill the time---
http://images.gr-assets.com/books/1347582584l/542429.jpg

Ever after this campsite has become known as the Donner Camps.

zelph
05-27-2017, 09:27
Ok, now it's more clear how this is related to "how to eat your hiking partner" read more:

During the “Forlorn Hope” expedition, the hiking party included a pair of Indians named Salvador and Luis, both of whom had joined up with the Donner emigrants shortly before they became snowbound. The natives were the only members of the group who refused to engage in cannibalism, and they later ran off out of fear that they might be murdered once the others ran out of meat. When the duo was found days later, exhausted and lying in the snow, an emigrant named William Foster shot both of them in the head. The Indians were then butchered and eaten by the hikers. It was the only time during the entire winter that people were murdered for use as food.

zelph
05-27-2017, 09:36
How did the facts in the book you read match up with the facts given in the above link?

Your four days of rain gave you time to think about the hard times early pioneers had.

It was interesting to read that they ate the leather from their saddles. (horse hide jerky)

Luna Anderson
11-06-2017, 22:41
wow, I'd rather hike alone next time. It's scary :mad:

Old Hiker
11-07-2017, 09:22
wow, I'd rather hike alone next time. It's scary :mad:

Worst possible scenario. Now, you're ALONE with no helpful defenders to ........uh, defend you. Plus, with partners, you can always run FASTER than your partners, circling back to take advantage of the leavings after the "unfortunate incident".

rocketsocks
11-07-2017, 13:57
I always carry a couple packets of ketchup for just such an occasion.