View Full Version : Vandal banned from national parks
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-graffiti-artist-sentenced---20160620-snap-story.html
jimmyjam
06-21-2016, 08:43
I hope she gets a heavy fine. And they should give her some graffiti like tatto STUPID across her forehead in big letters. People like her really piss me off.
colorado_rob
06-21-2016, 08:49
Yeah, horrible. 200 hours of public service ain't enough of a punishment, IMHO. "banned" from national parks? How they going to do that? ID's aren't checked on entry.
The worst defacement I've ever heard of is this classic white trash a-hole boy scout "leader" destroying a formation in Goblin Valley SP in Utah:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/18/goblin-valley-boy-scout-leaders-destroy-rock_n_4122488.html
She doesn't seem repentant or even regretful.
https://www.instagram.com/theofficialcreepytings/
Sarcasm the elf
06-21-2016, 09:31
Yeah, horrible. 200 hours of public service ain't enough of a punishment, IMHO. "banned" from national parks? How they going to do that? ID's aren't checked on entry.
The worst defacement I've ever heard of is this classic white trash a-hole boy scout "leader" destroying a formation in Goblin Valley SP in Utah:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/18/goblin-valley-boy-scout-leaders-destroy-rock_n_4122488.html
Former boyscout leader. The organization booted the men as soon as they learned of the incident.
Best part is that at the time if the incident Goblin toppler himself was suing someone "serious, permanent and debilitating injuries."" Relating to a car crash. He filed the suit just weeks before hiking into the desert and getting filmed pushing over a giant boulder.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/22/us/utah-boulder-boy-scouts/
It's certainly not a victimless crime. It's effing rude, ignorant and disrespectful.
But in the overall spectrum of criminality, I won't lose much sleep over it.
What kind of genetic coding malfunction makes people do this?
I wouldn't be surprised if she does it again.
Meanwhile, we are giving her the global notoriety she seeks. We are enablers.
Wayne
Old. Slow. "Smarter than the average bear."
GoldenBear
06-21-2016, 10:50
> "banned" from national parks? How they going to do that?
> ID's aren't checked on entry.
True, but note that this ban is part of her probation. If she's found within any area administered by the National Parks Service -- including Independence Hall or the Statue of Liberty -- she's violated the terms of her probation. Which means she goes to jail. This may not stop her -- after all, she obviously lacks any intelligence, decency, or morality -- but it does mean that the Park Rangers don't have to find her in the act of vandalism to throw her in jail, they just have to find her in a park.
She is a criminal. Hopefully she will change.
I didn't want to see petrogylphs behind a screened fence, so I asked where I could see petroglyphs untouched.
It was an intense experience, involving communication that relies on the vastness of the terrain, and, on the magnificence of the view. I had only seen photographs: actually seeing and experiencing the petroglyphs is an intense experience, with much more meaning than expected. It put me in touch with the people's lives, in unexpected ways.
I have seen other people take a look and pull away, I think because they reject something so different from their experience. It is not foreign, or alien, but a different perception of a place. Not frightening, just showing the viewer the particular place you are standing in, what it is to be standing where you are.
I saw one showing species of existing animals, if the land was verdant. It was verdant, when the thin mat of green they had to be able to see living and growing in a small patch "terraced" outdoors enrout up to a cliff dwelling National Monument, I visited next, that was growing on the Arizona desert before numerous livestock hoofs cut the land.
I had stayed there, most of the day, realizing what these animals travelled thru there and those animals were there and there as the position of the existing boulders and the petrogylph showed all that, as well as, revealing the lives of the people that lived near, actually where and how they lived - all without a diorama exhibit in a museum - that fails to connect to the living reality.
I felt transported to their experience.
The painted rocks are not "rock art" or "tagging" but are so much more. The communication to be experienced there is on a much deeper and more complete level than graphic art or illustration, and I started in graphic art.
Me? I have only once or twice seen "art" that even slightly compares: petroglyphs are not "art".
They are protected, because the only way to experience them is to be there.
JumpMaster Blaster
06-23-2016, 11:43
> "banned" from national parks? How they going to do that?
> ID's aren't checked on entry.
True, but note that this ban is part of her probation. If she's found within any area administered by the National Parks Service -- including Independence Hall or the Statue of Liberty -- she's violated the terms of her probation. Which means she goes to jail. This may not stop her -- after all, she obviously lacks any intelligence, decency, or morality -- but it does mean that the Park Rangers don't have to find her in the act of vandalism to throw her in jail, they just have to find her in a park.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if she ends up "forgetting" and posting pictures from another restricted site. She's an attention seeker, so no doubt there will be more "look at me" shenanigans to come.
IMO, this is not a forgivable offense. Banning from the park is one thing, but she should be slapped with fines for each defacement to send a message and bring LNT to the forefront. The last thing I want to see when climbing a peak or investigating a distant crag is this entitled little @#$@#$'s doodling on the landscape. The other thing is.. she's no Basquiat. Her "art" wouldn't even look good in a subway bathroom.
GoldenBear
06-23-2016, 12:26
> she should be slapped with fines for each defacement
As stated in the original article
"A hearing to determine the amount of restitution Nocket is required to pay will be held at a later date."
This is in addition to the 200 hours of community service she'll be required to perform. Personally, I'd love to see her cleaning out-houses in public parks, or producing a public service announcement about the disgusting evil of vandalizing national parks.
It's just another blaring sign of the total lack of respect epidemic that has infected our world.
Rain Man
06-23-2016, 12:59
At least what she did will fade (and I'm NOT condoning nor justifying her vile conduct). Climate change and mountaintop removal by the fossil fuel industry? Not so much. She grew up in a culture that says it's okay to defile nature.
rocketsocks
06-23-2016, 17:27
At least what she did will fade (and I'm NOT condoning nor justifying her vile conduct). Climate change and mountaintop removal by the fossil fuel industry? Not so much. She grew up in a culture that says it's okay to defile nature.ya know what's crazy about all that stuff though, it did happen on our watch and we grew up with it too, and in many cases they were givin' permits to remove said mountains, all nice and legal like, crazy ain't it.
Sarcasm the elf
06-23-2016, 17:45
At least what she did will fade (and I'm NOT condoning nor justifying her vile conduct). Climate change and mountaintop removal by the fossil fuel industry? Not so much. She grew up in a culture that says it's okay to defile nature.
If they have it their way they'll be destroying more soon:
http://www.outsideonline.com/2093281/great-public-land-heist-has-begun?
JumpMaster Blaster
06-23-2016, 18:16
If they have it their way they'll be destroying more soon:
http://www.outsideonline.com/2093281/great-public-land-heist-has-begun?
It parallels what Bill Bryson said about the National Forest Service in "A Walk in the Woods".
rocketsocks
06-23-2016, 20:58
It parallels what Bill Bryson said about the National Forest Service in "A Walk in the Woods".ya know, we could put a road in there.
It's just another blaring sign of the total lack of respect epidemic that has infected our world.
Defacing public areas with crappy art is nothing new.. (http://classicalwisdom.com/dirty-world-ancient-graffiti/).
I'd post some examples from Pompeii, but they are rather non-family friendly. (http://dangerousminds.net/comments/lewd_graffiti_from_ancient_pompeii) (Features a slightly NSFW Roman fresco)
Not excusing what Casey did, but it is not exactly the harbinger of the end times. Rather it shows there have, and always will be, knuckleheads. And that young people have not changed much in 2000 years.
Sarcasm the elf
06-23-2016, 21:45
Defacing public areas with crappy art is nothing new.. (http://classicalwisdom.com/dirty-world-ancient-graffiti/).
I'd post some examples from Pompeii, but they are rather non-family friendly. (http://dangerousminds.net/comments/lewd_graffiti_from_ancient_pompeii) (Features a slightly NSFW Roman fresco)
Not excusing what Casey did, but it is not exactly the harbinger of the end times. Rather it shows there have, and always will be, knuckleheads. And that young people have not changed much in 2000 years.
I'd like to emphasize the phrase "crappy art" in this particular instance. I recently broke down and looked photos of Knockett's handiwork and it looks like construction paper and a refrigerator door would have been more appropriate mediums and locations for display.
squeezebox
06-24-2016, 12:11
I think a bunch of wire brushes and being forced to remove all damage would be appropriate.
I think a bunch of wire brushes and being forced to remove all damage would be appropriate.
I was thinking maybe a toothbrush, soft, with the handle cut off.
Tuckahoe
06-24-2016, 18:51
I think a bunch of wire brushes and being forced to remove all damage would be appropriate.
How about we just leave the restoration work to the professionals with the proper tools and just charge her for the expense.
How about we just leave the restoration work to the professionals with the proper tools and just charge her for the expense.
Professional rock scrubbers? That's a thing?
How about we just leave the restoration work to the professionals with the proper tools and just charge her for the expense.
Well if the government does it , they will be done around 2077 after spending $2B. Best to let nature take it's course
Sarcasm the elf
06-24-2016, 19:49
Professional rock scrubbers? That's a thing?
They prefer the term Geological aesthetics specialist. :D
Given that she used acrylic paint I wonder if the sun and weather would take care of most of it within a few years?
They're G15's, get hazardous duty pay for working in a high VOC environment.
what a friggin' self-absorbed SELFISH loser
should give her an orange vest and put her out picking up trash along the highways for at least 6 months
Rex Clifton
06-25-2016, 14:20
I don't know, the girl looks pretty hot! She can come to my house and write all the graffiti she wants!
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rocketsocks
06-25-2016, 18:05
I don't know, the girl looks pretty hot! She can come to my house and write all the graffiti she wants!
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalki wouldn't even let her pointillism me.
squeezebox
06-25-2016, 18:16
I don't know, the girl looks pretty hot! She can come to my house and write all the graffiti she wants!
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Geez!! turn on your brain before you say stuff like that.
MuddyWaters
06-25-2016, 18:31
I know forest service has brought in pressure washers to remove graffiti before. Its effective with least damage most likely. Recall a couple dumba$$ that spray painted their names. Local cops knew who they were immediately.
They should have chopped off the womans fingers.
They should have chopped off the womans fingers.
Good that none of us have ever made mistakes...Throwing the first stone and all.
rocketsocks
06-25-2016, 20:34
I know forest service has brought in pressure washers to remove graffiti before. Its effective with least damage most likely. Recall a couple dumba$$ that spray painted their names. Local cops knew who they were immediately.
They should have chopped off the womans fingers.damn, that's some Old Testament stuff there.
MuddyWaters
06-25-2016, 23:45
Good that none of us have ever made mistakes...Throwing the first stone and all.
Deliberate acts arent mistakes.
Deliberate acts arent mistakes.
Errors of Judgement?
I am not condoning her actions. I, as were most others, was incensed at her actions. However, "unforgiveable"(?) or worthy of having her fingers "chopped off"? These seem like proclamations of those who don't recognize in themselves the capacity to make an "error in judgement".
If you harbor this belief in yourself, I agree that your profile specified location is precisely accurate.
Lighten up Francis! (FYI- Stripes reference for the younger crowd)
i wouldn't even let her pointillism me.
It took like forever, but I finally got to see a Seurat up close and personal. The dude rocks!
Wayne
Old. Slow. "Smarter than the average bear."
rocketsocks
06-26-2016, 18:20
It took like forever, but I finally got to see a Seurat up close and personal. The dude rocks!
Wayne
Old. Slow. "Smarter than the average bear."ya I like him too.