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akamai42
07-01-2016, 12:03
I'll be using a SnowPeak gigapower stove and need something to cook/eat in. This is something I could upgrade later, so I don't want to spend a fortune, but I also don't want something super heavy, so I'm looking for a balance. Any suggestions?

Do I need a windscreen if I'll be doing most of my cooking at shelters? What do you recommend?

Thanks in advance and happy trails!

MuddyWaters
07-01-2016, 12:14
You can get a small stainless cup at fleamarkets from china for $1, and use watter bottles and gear as windscreen. Without windscreen, fuel use goes thru roof in a breeze

cmoulder
07-01-2016, 12:45
With a topper type canister stove such as the Giga you've got to be careful not to use a windscreen that encloses both the stove and the canister, because the canister might overheat and explode at temps above approx 125°F (overall canister temperature!)

Best to use, as MW suggests, large items of gear or also natural items such as rocks, rock ledges, tree trunks etc.

August W.
07-01-2016, 13:00
GSI Soloist.

cmoulder
07-01-2016, 13:06
As for a pot, hard to know personal preferences but something like THIS (http://www.campsaver.com/lt-lightweight-pot?gclid=CjwKEAjwqdi7BRCL6Zmjk5-rsTwSJABmrVabmi8OlbFgLaFML4jepUURBZxqsLV84FCqMOJBK SzFHRoC0q3w_wcB) is pretty reasonable. Hard-anodized Aluminum is a good option and generally 1/3 the cost of titanium.

CarlZ993
07-01-2016, 13:38
Be very careful about using windscreens w/ canister stoves.

As for pots, GSI makes the aforementioned Soloist (1.1L) pot w/ bowl, spork, waterproof stuff sack, & stove protector (~ $45). For $15 less, they also make essentially the same pot but w/o all the fancy fixings. Both are good pots.

For the true budget hiker, Walmart sells the Umusa 12 cm mug/pot that is about 1L in size. I bought mine a couple years ago for $2.97. You'll need to make a pie-tin lid & use your bandana to insulate your hands when you take it off the stove.

Odd Man Out
07-01-2016, 13:52
As for a pot, hard to know personal preferences but something like THIS (http://www.campsaver.com/lt-lightweight-pot?gclid=CjwKEAjwqdi7BRCL6Zmjk5-rsTwSJABmrVabmi8OlbFgLaFML4jepUURBZxqsLV84FCqMOJBK SzFHRoC0q3w_wcB) is pretty reasonable. Hard-anodized Aluminum is a good option and generally 1/3 the cost of titanium.

I have the XLS version of this pot and it is awesome. Not UL, but bombroof. I like the anodized coating and the proprtions which are a 1 to 1 height to diameter ratio (approx). I don't like pots that are tall and skinny or short and wide. Mine has the heat exchanger which increases efficiency. I use it with an alcohol stove but have always thought it might work well with a canister stove. I thought the heat exchanger which extends about an inch below the perimeter might act as a bit of a windscreen in addition to capturing more heat. Would be curious if anyone had experience with this combo.

Connie
07-01-2016, 15:20
If cooking for two, I really like 1.5 liter cookware.

I suggest, make your selection based on heating two cups hot water, if cooking for one.

I have a 750 ml Vargo Titanium Sierra I like because I can heat 2-cups water with no boil-over, plus I can saute and use a spatula. If you like straight sides, Toaks has a titanium 600 ml with or without handles.

I have a titanium windscreen, because it "springs back".

I haven't purchased this, but the price is favorable. I paid more.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B017IE4B7S/ref=aw_wl_ov_dp_1_13?colid=1UJ8M0DU8TC9U&coliid=I35X0Q8HDHFEC5

I do not use aluminum foil because it deteriorates too rapidly to use more than a 2-3X, if that: heat makes it brittle.

Uriah
07-01-2016, 18:09
I do not use aluminum foil because it deteriorates too rapidly to use more than a 2-3X, if that: heat makes it brittle.

Aluminum roof flashing (like this (https://www.amazon.com/AMERIMAX-PRODUCTS-68306-Aluminum-Flashing/dp/B000BQUIIM/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1467410569&sr=8-4&keywords=aluminum+roof+flashing)) also works well and lasts infinitely longer than foil. It's also much, much, much cheaper than the titanium stuff.

MtDoraDave
07-01-2016, 18:19
The Gigapower has its own custom windscreen. They are $10. Get one! Some complain that they aren't Titaniun, but the stainless steel is only a couple ounces.
For cookware, I like something about 5" wide, as the flames sort of spread out from the stove rather than blasting straight up.
If you have a good outfitter near you, try out different sized pots to see how well you can nest the windscreen, fuel cans and possibly your stove.

MtDoraDave
07-01-2016, 18:22
https://www.backcountryedge.com/snow-peak-gigapower-windscreen.html?gclid=CPjtw8-m080CFZKGaQod-d4NjQ

saltysack
07-01-2016, 23:48
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160702/e7429169a6f1093f3af04e1ae5754e2b.jpg
This diy beer can windscreen works good.. Cheap greese pot or I like my SP600 but not cheap...


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cmoulder
07-02-2016, 07:17
Well I learned something new — I never realized Sierra Nevada Pale Ale came in a can. :)

With any of these close-fitting windscreens, quite often the turbulence behind them is still going to be pretty bad, enough to blow out the burner. What is needed is a wind-sheltered AREA of calm air, which is why stacking up a fairly large rock shield or pack items helps so much. If actual wind-worthiness were my top priority I'd definitely be looking at the MSR Windboiler, which operates extremely well in direct, gale-force winds.

saltysack
07-02-2016, 08:34
Well I learned something new — I never realized Sierra Nevada Pale Ale came in a can. :)

With any of these close-fitting windscreens, quite often the turbulence behind them is still going to be pretty bad, enough to blow out the burner. What is needed is a wind-sheltered AREA of calm air, which is why stacking up a fairly large rock shield or pack items helps so much. If actual wind-worthiness were my top priority I'd definitely be looking at the MSR Windboiler, which operates extremely well in direct, gale-force winds.

Yep sure do....best part of this diy was emptying the cans[emoji482]...I've had good luck with this windscreen as I used it on top of max patch in heavy unprotected wind with no issues.


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theoilman
07-02-2016, 10:31
I use a section of an Al disposable baking pan - heavier than foil, lighter than roof flashing. With care (not getting it too close which may cause the canister to overheat) and going about 3/4 the way around it will last for weeks. I carry it rolled inside my pot.

Venchka
07-02-2016, 22:04
Be very careful about using windscreens w/ canister stoves.

As for pots, GSI makes the aforementioned Soloist (1.1L) pot w/ bowl, spork, waterproof stuff sack, & stove protector (~ $45). For $15 less, they also make essentially the same pot but w/o all the fancy fixings. Both are good pots.

For the true budget hiker, Walmart sells the Umusa 12 cm mug/pot that is about 1L in size. I bought mine a couple years ago for $2.97. You'll need to make a pie-tin lid & use your bandana to insulate your hands when you take it off the stove.

I just checked Walmart online. Unusable 12 cm mug is gone. Unavailable.
Wayne


Old. Slow. "Smarter than the average bear."

Venchka
07-02-2016, 22:05
Imusa mug. Autospell. Yuck


Old. Slow. "Smarter than the average bear."

cmoulder
07-03-2016, 07:07
Yep sure do....best part of this diy was emptying the cans[emoji482]...

Gotta love any project that starts off "Step One: Drink 2 beers":sun

Many of my alcohol stove projects start off with "Feed the dog some cat food."

cmoulder
07-03-2016, 07:21
Imusa 12cm (http://www.amazon.com/Imusa-Aluminum-Mug-1-25-Quart-12/product-reviews/B004444XMY) still available thru Amazon, of course!

One-stop shopping for Imusa in general is Minibulldesign Cult. If the 10cm Imusa (https://www.minibulldesign.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=123) (which holds about 2.5 cups) is good enough, you can also get a lid for it (https://www.minibulldesign.com/productcart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=10) from Minibulldesign. Getting a tad spendy for both at $17 +shipping, but light and durable enough.

saltysack
07-03-2016, 08:00
Gotta love any project that starts off "Step One: Drink 2 beers":sun

Many of my alcohol stove projects start off with "Feed the dog some cat food."

Haaaa that's exactly what I did several years ago when I made a super cat stove...only alchy stove I ever built....dogs love cat food and cat crap.....nasty animals....[emoji23]


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LIhikers
07-03-2016, 23:05
I've been using the Stanco grease pot for years.
Last time I looked it was still less than $10 at K-Mart.
It's cheap, light, and bigger enough for 2 people when you need it.
You can see it HERE (https://www.amazon.com/Stanco-Non-Stick-Grease-Strainer-Black/dp/B000MVTIOQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467600983&sr=8-1&keywords=stanco+grease+pot)