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wtrenda
09-19-2016, 20:41
Is anyone else finding that friends and family are tired of hearing about the gearing you have, are planning to buy or dream of owning?

I would like to take this opportunity to begin the conversation and compare strategies, etc.

Here is my main set up for a mid June SOBO. I don't have weights for everything. Please feel free to critique or give advice where you feel necessary:

ULA Ohm 32.5oz
EE Revelation 30' 17.1oz
Thermarest Xlite 12oz
Lightheart Gear Solo 30oz
Big 4 total= ~5lbs 10oz

Beer can stove/windscreen 2oz
Snow Peak Trek 700 4.8oz
Alpha Light Long Spoon. .4oz
Sawyer Squeeze 3.5oz
BD Spot Headlamp 3.25
Melanzana Micro Grid(warm season) 11oz
Patagonia Nano Puff(cold season) 13oz
Rab Flashpoint 7oz
Patagonia Cap 1 or random synth shirt ~3oz
Patagonia Cap 2 Bottoms 5.5oz
Patagonia Baggies 7.5oz
Melanzana Beanie no idea
Swiftwick/Darn Tough Hiking socks not sure
Thick wool socks Doesn't matter

My total weight from what I've calculated/estimated is about 16lbs before food and water. I'd like to cut another pound or two somehow

I haven't weighed electronics(phone charger/external battery), first aid kit and whatnot.
I am curious what everyone else is doing for a first aid kit... I'm interested in a DIY ultralight kit.



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TJ aka Teej
09-19-2016, 20:55
Head net & bug juice.
There's a sobo forum you msy want to check out, and here's my annual tip sheet for sobos starting at Baxter:
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/118015-2016-Baxter-State-Park-and-Katahdin-info-for-southbounders?highlight=

Engine
09-20-2016, 06:53
First aid kits are a bit of a conundrum. Typically, our packs tend to get heavy because of "what-if" items, and that defines a first aid kit. But, it's the one what-if item that might save your bacon if you end up in a tight spot. As a former career paramedic, I used to carry a ridiculous 2+ pound first aid kit on family trips. Over the years I looked critically at what we used and didn't use, paring away items which fell into the latter category. Below is a list of the minimal items I carry now for 2 people on long trips on the AT. If we were going to be on a more remote trail, such as the CDT, I would probably add a few items.

Zip-lock to hold items
Rx meds
12 Benadryl
12 Imodium (dysentery sucks...)
30-40 Ibuprophen
Neosporin (small tube)
1" tape (1/2 roll)
3-4 4x4s (sterile)
4-6 bandaids (various sizes)

Note: Most items I carry serve more than one purpose. We don't carry moleskin because I have duct tape wrapped around my hiking pole and it does a better job with blisters anyway. I don't carry an ACE wrap because I can cut my buff and do the same thing if I need to. I carry a small sewing/repair kit and the needle in that can be sterilized for blister duty if needed. Etc...

HeartFire
09-20-2016, 07:18
I have 2 Melanzana micro grid skirts - I love them!

DuneElliot
09-20-2016, 08:56
The 700 SP stove is not a great choice for an alcohol stove since it has a very narrow base. Have you tried it out? My 900SP Trek is barely suitable and I still have flames coming up the side. Maybe a beer-can stove is different from a FF stove regarding flames, and if so ignore this thought, but that was the first thing that stuck out to me. I'd like a wider and shorter pot than I already have, but I don't want to make yet another koozy.

wtrenda
09-20-2016, 09:22
The 700 SP stove is not a great choice for an alcohol stove since it has a very narrow base. Have you tried it out? My 900SP Trek is barely suitable and I still have flames coming up the side. Maybe a beer-can stove is different from a FF stove regarding flames, and if so ignore this thought, but that was the first thing that stuck out to me. I'd like a wider and shorter pot than I already have, but I don't want to make yet another koozy.

I have tried it out. That's something I am looking at changing because flames are all up the sides of that pot. I'm in the same boat as you though...my 700 already has its pot kozy and I don't want to make another. I am just shopping around for other pots right now. The Toaks pots seem like a good deal but ever new seems to be the hot item?


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DuneElliot
09-20-2016, 09:45
I already made three. I've got enough reflectix to make another one, but they are time consuming and a pain. Maybe next year!

q-tip
09-20-2016, 09:58
If interested I have an extensive gear list u/l to 3-season 13 -16 lbs. Total. Send pm with email and I will forward,

cmoulder
09-20-2016, 10:02
The Toaks pots seem like a good deal but ever new seems to be the hot item?

The Toaks 900ml wide bottom (https://www.amazon.com/TOAKS-Titanium-900ml-130mm-Diameter/dp/B00F4MR9I0) (130mm) is a good choice.

DuneElliot
09-20-2016, 10:40
The Toaks 900ml wide bottom (https://www.amazon.com/TOAKS-Titanium-900ml-130mm-Diameter/dp/B00F4MR9I0) (130mm) is a good choice.

And here I was thinking I was done buying camping gear....bwah ha ha haaaaa! :jumpYeah, right!

cmoulder
09-20-2016, 11:06
Ever since the demise of the Open Country 3-cup hard-anodized aluminum pot, this is one of the very few (perhaps only) options left in that niche.

I use the OC 3-cup pot with a Fancee Feest and this combo, along with a decent windscreen, yields a boil of 3 cups of cold water with 30ml denatured alcohol (I use Klean-Strip).

trailmercury
09-20-2016, 12:03
If you switched to a Zpacks pack (Arc) and shelter (Plex), you have just saved your "pound or two"....
Just sayin'
the microgrid and nanopuff are relatively heavy, consider Montbell down instead, very reasonably priced and lighter...Superior down jacket is 7.3 oz and is only 149.00 retail
small knife?
lighter?
compass/whistle?
Trowel?
foodbag/hanging kit?
z-seat or similar?, you'll want that for sure!

wtrenda
09-20-2016, 12:46
I've looked into the ZPacks stuff... I'm waiting for the budget to allow those upgrades. I may see if I can find a used one somewhere. I always hear good things from Montbell... Did not realize they had a few things in that price range. Will look into that as well.

As for the other stuff, I have all of that... Those were the random bits of miscellany that I have factored into an excel sheet that I've created that calculates weight but did not feel the need to add on here. I forego a trowel...sturdy sticks work fine. I have Zpacks bear bag kit and dry bags and I'm in between using my Neoair Xlite or my Zlite... haven't officially decided yet.

trailmercury
09-20-2016, 13:14
Deuce of spades trowel is well worth the 0.6 oz.... YMMV
The z seat is for rest stops and such, certainly if you take the z-lite you could carry it on the outside of the pack for sitting at rest stops.

Guyler
09-20-2016, 15:08
Have you tried using Lighter Pack? I've found that to be a great tool for planning.

https://lighterpack.com/r/g9bf23

Fireplug
09-20-2016, 20:06
Zpacks gear is awesome. I use it plus I'm 37 miles from their shop so I just go there and talk with Matt or Red Beard.

wtrenda
09-20-2016, 20:14
I have all of their dry bags and wish I had the funds to do all of their stuff because I like it a lot and my carried weight falls well within what they can carry. I am trying to keep an eye on their bargain bin.


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DuneElliot
09-21-2016, 09:09
As mentioned in your WTB post, they often wait for a pile up of returns on backpacks and tents and stuff and then list them all at once and announce it on their FB page. I love my Arc Haul...I think it's the slightly better option for only 2oz more, but that's only because I was willing to add the 2oz for double the durability. Super comfortable pack though...but I did have to add some extra padding to the belt, the added lumbar pad just wasn't quite enough for a skinny gal like me.

trailmercury
09-21-2016, 20:07
+1 on the Arc Haul in Dyneema...My single favorite piece of gear.

Heliotrope
09-22-2016, 15:31
The Ohm is an awesome pack why change a good thing? Though at a glance I didn't see that your gear was 16lb. With your big 4 at 5 lbs I see no reason that you wouldn't be closer to a 10lb base with clothing for 3 season use.



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Martzy
09-22-2016, 16:10
Thanks for that, Guyler, I'd never heard of that site and I just had a lot of fun with it! Got a great idea of where my weight is, within my gear.

ccchans
09-29-2016, 15:10
Zpacks gear is awesome. I use it plus I'm 37 miles from their shop so I just go there and talk with Matt or Red Beard.

What's their new address?

The Roaming Gnome
09-29-2016, 16:05
Admin please remove post. Thanks

Guyler
10-03-2016, 19:10
Thanks for that, Guyler, I'd never heard of that site and I just had a lot of fun with it! Got a great idea of where my weight is, within my gear.

No problem, I'm still working on my list curious to see what your gear list ends up like. Keep me updated if you come across lists you really like.

Martzy
10-07-2016, 00:28
Sure thing, I'm waiting to purchase a few clothing items, a new sawyer squeeze, and a scale to get exact weights. Once I do, I'll be sure to link it here for you guys. Base weight is sitting at about 14.5 lbs right now (which I am fine with considering I'm going with a hammock).

FiftyNine
10-17-2016, 23:17
Let's see
My main stuff....(off the top of my head)
Osprey AG 65
Enlighten Equipment Quilt
Warbonnet Blackbird w/Superfly
jetboil minimo
Sawyer Squeeze
Zpack kilt- plan on using it more for a ground cover under tarp for pack and shoes.