Pot choice

[liteweight]

I'm currently using the evernew pasta pot (largest one) that weighs 4.1 ounces. It's just too big for solo backpacking. I typically do knor sides or mashed potatoes in the pot and slide it into a cozy for twenty to thirty minutes. What's the smallest pot out there that I can use comfortably? Looks like short and wide is the way to go for fuel efficiency. I've been looking at the evernew .9 mug/pot at 3.5 ounces.

[Hikingjim]

You're looking at buying something 0.1 litres smaller and .6 ounces lighter? Doesn't seem too worthwhile
If yours seems much too big... then you might want to drop more than 100ml off the size

I use 850ml and it's fine for my purposes

[liteweight]

That's why I haven't bought it yet. I was hoping somewhere in the 750 range would work. Do you cook in your 850ml?

[capehiker]

I typically do knor sides or mashed potatoes in the pot and slide it into a cozy for twenty to thirty minutes. What's the smallest pot out there that I can use comfortably? Looks like short and wide is the way to go for fuel efficiency. I've been looking at the evernew .9 mug/pot at 3.5 ounces.

Sounds like you're doing a hybrid of freezer bag cooking but first using the actual pot. If you eliminate putting the food in the pot first, and do a traditional freezer bag cook method, you can drop more ounces by changing to a Toaks 550 (2.6oz).

[capehiker]

That's why I haven't bought it yet. I was hoping somewhere in the 750 range would work. Do you cook in your 850ml?


750 is really tight to cook in. I use the smaller Evernew pasta pot and it's really tough but I mostly do boil in the bag.

[QiWiz]

I personally like a 900-1000 cc pot for my cooking, so that I have enough water heated for both a hot drink and hot food in one "burn". Some people like a 750 cc and some even thrive with a 550 cc pot. Use your large pot to heat these type of volumes and see if you think they are big enough for you.

[Greenlight]

I'm currently using the evernew pasta pot (largest one) that weighs 4.1 ounces. It's just too big for solo backpacking. I typically do knor sides or mashed potatoes in the pot and slide it into a cozy for twenty to thirty minutes. What's the smallest pot out there that I can use comfortably? Looks like short and wide is the way to go for fuel efficiency. I've been looking at the evernew .9 mug/pot at 3.5 ounces.

4.1 ounces is a lot of pot to be carrying on the trail.


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[egilbe]

4.1 ounces is a lot of pot to be carrying on the trail.


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Its not that much. I carry a 1400ml snowpeak. It weighs 6.7 ounces with the lid, but its for two people.

[Greenlight]

Sorry it went over your head. Most places will leave you alone if you're carrying less than an ounce. ;)


Its not that much. I carry a 1400ml snowpeak. It weighs 6.7 ounces with the lid, but its for two people.

[AtWokman]

24oz tall boy can.

[bigcranky]

We used an 800ml mug on our last long hike, and it wasn't quite big enough for a Knorr side and a bag of chicken -- I had to be really careful that it didn't boil over or spill while stirring. We replaced it with a shorter 1 liter mug and that's perfect.

I also have a 700mm Snow Peak for solo use - same problem with Knorr meals, but mostly I just boil water to pour in a homemade freezer bag meal.

[Deadeye]

I use the MSR Titan kettle, 0.9 liter, and that's about as small as I can use and still be practical. If I'm actually cooking a meal in the pot (as opposed to boiling water to add to something), it's full.

As for the other pot - sensimilla

[egilbe]

Sorry it went over your head. Most places will leave you alone if you're carrying less than an ounce. ;)

Doh! Its legal here ;)

[cmoulder]

sensimilla

Shouldn't a weed smoker be able to spell that correctly? Just sayin'... :rolleyes:

[Engine]

Shouldn't a weed smoker be able to spell that correctly? Just sayin'... :rolleyes:

"...your buds are getting so big, I have to get you a training bra." - T.C.

Sorry, just popped into my head...no control sometimes. ;)

[Deadeye]

Shouldn't a weed smoker be able to spell that correctly? Just sayin'... :rolleyes:

looked it up on Wikipedia, so it HAS to be right ;-)

[Secondmouse]

I'm currently using the evernew pasta pot (largest one) that weighs 4.1 ounces. It's just too big for solo backpacking. I typically do knor sides or mashed potatoes in the pot and slide it into a cozy for twenty to thirty minutes. What's the smallest pot out there that I can use comfortably? Looks like short and wide is the way to go for fuel efficiency. I've been looking at the evernew .9 mug/pot at 3.5 ounces.

Toaks Ultralight 900ml, 130mm diameter. Traildesigns says "This is the LIGHTEST 900ml pot you can buy!" -- https://www.traildesigns.com/cookware/toaks-900-ml-ultralight-titanium-pot

[cmoulder]

Uh, maybe look again (https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinsemilla), lol. ;)

[bikebum1975]

Small pot I use my usgi canteen cup sure a little tight but doubles as a bowl to eat/drink from. And yes itll hold a side packet and a tuna pouch

[hyperslug]

IMUSA, cheap aluminum mug that are not flimsy and cost a fraction of the titanium. Weights with handles sawed off:

.75 qt = 2.4 oz
1.25 qt = 3.05 oz

I have never bought into the titanium hype except for tent stakes.

[zelph]

Toaks Ultralight 900ml, 130mm diameter.

[ScareBear]

NOW you tell me....:p

[Saprogenic]

I find 900ml the best size for one person. Just enough room to do some actual cooking in as apposed to solely boiling water in it.
I tried titanium for a while, but just kept burning everything unless I was stirring every second it was on the stove. Went back to aluminum. Been using Olicamp pot. It's 900ml, anodized aluminum, measuring marks, flat bottom, long folding handle. The only thing I didn't like was the lid, but my titanium lid from fourdogstoves for my snow peak 900 fits perfectly. Weighs 6.2oz with ti lid.

[zelph]

12cm Aluminum Imusa Mug

[ScareBear]

On order...should come end of month...

[Odd Man Out]

I also like to boil food and water in the pot and then put in a pot cozy, then eat out of the pot. For this application, I like the pots that about equal height and diameter (neither short and wide nor tall and skinny). I've been using the Olicamp XTS. The anodized Al is easy to clean. The handles are near the top so they don't get hot. The heat exchanger gives fast boils with little fuel usage. But it is heavy. I've been thinking about that Evernew UL 900 mL mug pot. It is significantly lighter and just a little smaller (900 vs 1000 mL). And it is one of the few UL pots that has the same height to width ratio I like. But I give up the easy to clean anodized surface and heat exchanger. I also worry the handles will get hot. Not sure if it worth saving a few oz or not.

[Turk6177]

I use the snow peak soloist pot. It is a .82 liter pot with an accompanying cup and lid weighing in at 5.5 oz. The cup is also useful to measure your water and to gather water from shallow puddles when it is dry. It isn't short and fat, but I haven't had much of an issue if you use a canister stove. I did find the efficiency a little less with an alcohol stove just because the burner bloom was a little wider.

[Cheyou]

I have lately used an olicamp http://www.olicamp.com/products-cups-and-mugs/space-saver-mug

cheep , size works for me , easer to cook in then ti, weight is ok has graduated markings stamped on , it easy to clean . Four dogs makes a lid which I'm to cheep to buy. I had a lid that fit . I put silicone tubing on the handle. Less likely to burn myself .

Thom

[-Rush-]

A good Sativa/Indica blend always worked for me.

[gotts63]

evernew 900ml does everything

[DownEaster]

evernew 900ml does everything
You're sure about that? How about pancakes? They're my big motivator when my body feels creaky and I'm not enthused about hitting the trail.

[kayak karl]

Like Granny said, "Going to smoke some crawdads, but first I need a little pot"

[Elaikases]

You're sure about that? How about pancakes? They're my big motivator when my body feels creaky and I'm not enthused about hitting the trail.

Interesting how different people have different needs and solutions.

Which illustrates a lot.

When car camping with friends for the weekend, I carry cast iron and a couple camp stoves. Backpacking a Jetboy and the large pot for my wife and I.

It never occurred to me to try making pancakes when backpacking, we do it all the time car camping.

[Puddlefish]

My Evernew 750 weighs 3.2 ounces with the lid. Apparently the light colored one weighs less than the dark colored one.

I liked the capacity for freezer bag cooking. Enough for the meal, and a drink of hot cider... or the meal and enough hot water to disinfect my spoon, or wet a bandana and wash myself, or whatever. There's always a use for an extra cup of hot water.

[Five Tango]

The number of pots and alcohol stoves I have tried over the years would be embarrassing to list.Some too big.Some too small.The one I have settled on is the Imusa 12cm aluminum with a Fancee Feast with simmer ring and a Starlyte with stand for those times that I might want to have a stove that can't spill.Depending on what I have to eat it gives me the option of cooking in the pot or freezer bag cooking or cooking on fire.A bit easier to clean than titanium too.And it holds my coffee mug too with lighter and stoves.

[cmoulder]

For solo, I've been working my way down and have recently settled on a Toaks 550 Light with a Starlyte (with pot support) (https://www.amazon.com/Starlyte-Stove-by-Zelph-Stoves/dp/B004JVE6RE), Ti foil windscreen, MSR folding spoon, inCycle cup (4.5g), and matchbook which weigh 3.7 oz with CF stuff sack. 2.7 oz (volume) alky per day works for me.

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[Kaptainkriz]

Zelph did a version of this that I've pretty much settled on. Big enough for me. :)

For solo, I've been working my way down and have recently settled on a Toaks 550 Light with a Starlyte (with pot support) (https://www.amazon.com/Starlyte-Stove-by-Zelph-Stoves/dp/B004JVE6RE), Ti foil windscreen, MSR folding spoon, inCycle cup (4.5g), and matchbook which weigh 3.7 oz with CF stuff sack. 2.7 oz (volume) alky per day works for me.

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[cmoulder]

Hi, Kriz:

Seems that this is a popular size because we can boil 2 cups with a little headroom in the pot. I typically analyze everything to the Nth degree and perhaps it was inevitable that I would keep revising downward until I reached this point.

But I have done a few 1-, 2- and 3-night trips with the setup and am completely happy.

Not that the Titan and the Fancee Feest were some sort of grossly outsized kit, but I considered the way I use the system and reasoned that with a slight modification in the way I go about things I could cut a few ounces and pack volume with no loss of convenience.

I figured that the Ti foil (.003") windscreen and the Starlyte were a bit lighter than the cone setup and just as efficient, which some testing proved true.

[Kaptainkriz]

I ended up switching to a carbon fiber lid too. :)

Hi, Kriz:Seems that this is a popular size because we can boil 2 cups with a little headroom in the pot. I typically analyze everything to the Nth degree and perhaps it was inevitable that I would keep revising downward until I reached this point.But I have done a few 1-, 2- and 3-night trips with the setup and am completely happy.Not that the Titan and the Fancee Feest were some sort of grossly outsized kit, but I considered the way I use the system and reasoned that with a slight modification in the way I go about things I could cut a few ounces and pack volume with no loss of convenience.I figured that the Ti foil (.003") windscreen and the Starlyte were a bit lighter than the cone setup and just as efficient, which some testing proved true.

[Greenlight]

That's why I haven't bought it yet. I was hoping somewhere in the 750 range would work. Do you cook in your 850ml?

I have the Evernew 900 ml pot with frying pan lid, over a Caldara cone with the fissure insert, so I can cook with alcohol, tablets, or biomass. When I section hiked the AT in Virginia a couple of weeks ago I made a lot of soups in the evening but also used it for boiling water. Very efficient, and very versatile. I think I'll be using the set up for a while.


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[Venchka]

40 posts and nobody has mentioned Willie's Pot.
Wayne


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[cmoulder]

Willie's?

Maybe a link? I did a quick site search and google and could not find it.

[Greenlight]

Willie Nelson.

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[Venchka]

Look for Willie's Weed. I was in Colorado last September and a review in a small town newspaper caught my eye.
I found the links in one try. I'm not posting links in courtesy to our host.
Wayne


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[cmoulder]

Duh. Obviously I didn't get the joke.

Never a pot smoker so I must plead ignorance, although Willie's adventures with weed are well known.

[Francis Sawyer]

Why do potheads jump up and down cheering and broadcasting their love for weed? I mean, jeeze; I love cheese but I don't run around preaching the gospel of aged cheddar to anybody who will,stand still long enough. Not hating just saying.

[Venchka]

Chill y'all. I'm in the not now not ever group. I thought the connection was obvious.
That said, I do have some on topic news.
Que the drum roll please.
I bought a new old stock JetBoil SOL at Gander Mountain today. The boiling container is 800 ml. In the same ballpark as most have recommended here. I plan to use it in place of my SVEA 123 and Optimus 1 liter solo cook set.
Dry weight savings: 11 ounces.
Wayne


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[cmoulder]

Get an alcohol setup and save yourself another 11 ounces LOL! :D

Hey, I'm luvvin' my JBs for winter but any other time I'm using something else. For 3-season, if you just gotta go canister at least get some sort of light topper canister stove... for example a BRS-3000T and a Titan kettle.

All my humble opinion, of course.

[Cheyou]

Get an alcohol setup and save yourself another 11 ounces LOL! :D

Hey, I'm luvvin' my JBs for winter but any other time I'm using something else. For 3-season, if you just gotta go canister at least get some sort of light topper canister stove... for example a BRS-3000T and a Titan kettle.

All my humble opinion, of course.

hay nice Summer kit . What's your water purification if any ??

thom

[cmoulder]

Hi Thom:

I am using the liquid Aqua Mira pre-mix method. I carry 2 10ml bottles with A and B parts and do a daily 3ml pre-mix. So for me this sub 1oz setup is good for about a week of water purification. Been using this for a few years with no problems... I have tried gravity filter, Sawyer and Steripen but always end up back with the liquid AM, and I also carry a few of the chlorine dioxide tabs just in case.

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[Cheyou]

I was on the AT section hike this year and got very sick . Wonder if I would have bin better off with Aqua Mira then a Squeeze ? Or bleach with filter. The Aqua Mira kills viruses I think.

Thom

[Kaptainkriz]

I have not researched this, but assume you may have... How does long does the pre-mix last? The drops say to wait xx min after mixing....but are silent on how long it can be in that state. That would save me a few minutes on my fill-ups each time.

Hi Thom:

I am using the liquid Aqua Mira pre-mix method. I carry 2 10ml bottles with A and B parts and do a daily 3ml pre-mix. So for me this sub 1oz setup is good for about a week of water purification. Been using this for a few years with no problems... I have tried gravity filter, Sawyer and Steripen but always end up back with the liquid AM, and I also carry a few of the chlorine dioxide tabs just in case.

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[cmoulder]

Thom: I don't know, and these huge debates about "best" water treatments have raged before... I think sometimes we can get sick no matter what we do, and unless there is actual lab testing involved we won't even know what made us sick and even if the pathogen is identified it is highly unlikely the source can be positively identified. Maybe if I get sick I'll change my mind, but I've consumed some pretty manky AM-treated water a few times and haven't been sick yet, knock wood. :o

Kaptainkriz: Everything I've read says the mix is effective as long as the color remains a strong, bright yellow. In my experience, in a sealed bottle this span of time is at least 48 hours. I once mixed a full 3ml bottle and left it on my desk at home and it remained yellow for a few days. However, on the trail I nearly always use up the 3ml mix in one day, in about a 12-14 hour time frame. A few times I have used it the following morning.

[Cheyou]

Thom: I don't know, and these huge debates about "best" water treatments have raged before... I think sometimes we can get sick no matter what we do, and unless there is actual lab testing involved we won't even know what made us sick and even if the pathogen is identified it is highly unlikely the source can be positively identified. Maybe if I get sick I'll change my mind, but I've consumed some pretty manky AM-treated water a few times and haven't been sick yet, knock wood. :o

Kaptainkriz: Everything I've read says the mix is effective as long as the color remains a strong, bright yellow. In my experience, in a sealed bottle this span of time is at least 48 hours. I once mixed a full 3ml bottle and left it on my desk at home and it remained yellow for a few days. However, on the trail I nearly always use up the 3ml mix in one day, in about a 12-14 hour time frame. A few times I have used it the following morning.


I thought the Aqua Mira would kill Norrovirus. But your are right might not have bin the water , may have poisoned my self. I'm going to try the Aqua Mira . I'm weak minded so the placebo effect will work on me. ;0) .

thom

[cmoulder]

Well, we could always boil it in our 550ml pots (back on topic, lol!!), although that is huge waste of time and fuel.

re placebo... that's the thing about the "I use this and I've never been sick" claim, no matter who makes it... how do you know you wouldn't have been sick with zero treatment? Or that you have some natural resistance or higher contamination threshold that others might not have?

I did the Black Forest Trail in PA in early April with some friends and did not treat my water at all. No problem. But that means nothing, really—maybe I just got lucky.

[Cheyou]

Yes on topic !! Boil in a olicamp space saver or just drink beer.


thom

[zelph]

I just read recently that water below beaver dams for sure must be treated before drinking. Drink from a Toaks Light 700 pot ;-)

[LittleTim]

Well, we could always boil it in our 550ml pots (back on topic, lol!!), although that is huge waste of time and fuel.

re placebo... that's the thing about the "I use this and I've never been sick" claim, no matter who makes it... how do you know you wouldn't have been sick with zero treatment? Or that you have some natural resistance or higher contamination threshold that others might not have?

I did the Black Forest Trail in PA in early April with some friends and did not treat my water at all. No problem. But that means nothing, really—maybe I just got lucky.

I'll leave my sawyer at home next month and report back. With a sample size of two, noone can debate the results. :rolleyes:

Then again, it's been years since my last run on antibiotics and I drink kombucha daily, along with dry cured salami about weekly and walk barefoot in the yard every chance I get. :D

And my pot choice is some 1.1L deal I picked up at REI, it fits my homebrew alkey stove, silicone scraper and windscreen all under 8 oz. Does what it is supposed to, boil water for FB meals, nothing more. Someday I'll get more sophisticated, but for now variations of ramen, cous cous, and instant oatmeal are good enough sustenance. :bse

[cneill13]

Lighten up Francis.

It's a joke you don't understand.

[zelph]

Toaks Light 700 double boiler :-)

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[hipbone]

GoatBone cook kit stuff sackGoatBone 7.5 oz Mini Soda Can Stove (Pro 12 Version)GoatBone Chicken Wire Pot Stand (4x16 for TOAKS 550ml pot)GoatBone Reflectix pot cozy (550 ml Toaks pot)GoatBone Stove Ground Heat ShieldGoatBone Beer Can Wind Screen (TOAKS 550) GSI Folding SporkGSI Silicone Pot GripperLight load towel (quartered)Lighter (cook kit)TOAKS Light Titanium 550ml lidTOAKS Light Titanium 550ml pot without handle

Total: 5 oz

GoatBone means its home made. We dehydrate meals before we go out. 125 grams of dehydrated meal and enough water to cover it and a little head room for boil in the pot is all I get. I feel like this is about as bare bones as I can get. The stove weighs 7 grams and the pot stand weighs 7 grams...I can leave the pot stand at home and use tent stakes or rocks as a pot stand but I would be giving up a lot of convenience to drop 7 grams...

anybody want to buy one of these alcohol stoves? I've been making them for years and I must have 50 sitting around. They are hand-made up-cycled usable hiking art!! :)

(yellow book is full of boil times for almost every stove I've made...yeah I'm weird like that)


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[hipbone]

GoatBone cook kit stuff sackGoatBone 7.5 oz Mini Soda Can Stove (Pro 12 Version)GoatBone Chicken Wire Pot Stand (4x16 for TOAKS 550ml pot)GoatBone Reflectix pot cozy (550 ml Toaks pot)GoatBone Stove Ground Heat ShieldGoatBone Beer Can Wind Screen (TOAKS 550) GSI Folding SporkGSI Silicone Pot GripperLight load towel (quartered)Lighter (cook kit)TOAKS Light Titanium 550ml lidTOAKS Light Titanium 550ml pot without handle

Total: 5 oz

GoatBone means its home made. We dehydrate meals before we go out. 125 grams of dehydrated meal and enough water to cover it and a little head room for boil in the pot is all I get. I feel like this is about as bare bones as I can get. The stove weighs 7 grams and the pot stand weighs 7 grams...I can leave the pot stand at home and use tent stakes or rocks as a pot stand but I would be giving up a lot of convenience to drop 7 grams...

anybody want to buy one of these alcohol stoves? I've been making them for years and I must have 50 sitting around. They are hand-made up-cycled usable hiking art!! :)

(yellow book is full of boil times for almost every stove I've made...yeah I'm weird like that)


40164To the people asking about these stoves via PM's...please make sure you can receive PM's from others so I can respond :)

[squeezebox]

So I know Ti does not do heat transfer as well as AL or steel. So I went and bought a cheap Ti Chinese pot with heat exchanger. I'm guessing that the heat exchanger will save wt in fuel. Does anybody have any knowledge or experience in this area?

[hipbone]

So I know Ti does not do heat transfer as well as AL or steel. So I went and bought a cheap Ti Chinese pot with heat exchanger. I'm guessing that the heat exchanger will save wt in fuel. Does anybody have any knowledge or experience in this area?I really feel like if you're doing nothing but heating water or cooking a hiking meal in normal 3 season weather then a regular titanium pot works as good as anything. Heat exchangers and different metal pots are trivial when it comes to weight savings and most of the time just adds unnecessary weight. (I'm sure some people will have a different opinion)

[Cheyou]

So I know Ti does not do heat transfer as well as AL or steel. So I went and bought a cheap Ti Chinese pot with heat exchanger. I'm guessing that the heat exchanger will save wt in fuel. Does anybody have any knowledge or experience in this area?
cmoulder has lots of info on heat exchanger pots and fuel savings. private message him.

thom

[HooKooDooKu]

So I know Ti does not do heat transfer as well as AL or steel. So I went and bought a cheap Ti Chinese pot with heat exchanger. I'm guessing that the heat exchanger will save wt in fuel. Does anybody have any knowledge or experience in this area?
While I can't say anything for yourChinese pot and heat exchanger... I can say I noticed this past weekend just how fast the JetBoil is...

I generally take my SnowPeak LiteMax and my MSR Titan Kettle for weekend hikes to save on weight.

But this time, temperatures were foretasted to dip to freezing, and I've had issues using the LiteMax at those temperatures. So took along my heavier JetBoil MiniMo because it is listed as operational down to 20º.

I noticed a distinct difference in how fast the water was boiling with the MiniMo compared to the LiteMax/Titan Kettle.

I had previously used the MiniMo on a JMT thru, and I was quite surprised when a typical 4oz canister lasted 12 days from Red's to Whitney Portal... and then required about 10 minutes at full blast to burn off the remaining fuel so that I could dispose of the canister. The fuel had been used every night of the trip to boil water for meals, as well as to warm some water for a sponge bath each night.

I don't think my LiteMax and Titan Kettle could have ever performed that well.

[cmoulder]

So I know Ti does not do heat transfer as well as AL or steel. So I went and bought a cheap Ti Chinese pot with heat exchanger. I'm guessing that the heat exchanger will save wt in fuel. Does anybody have any knowledge or experience in this area?

Do you have a link for that Chinese Ti pot with heat exchanger?

I've seen plenty of aluminum ones but not titanium.

Thanks!

[zelph]

This Inferno HX pot is looking pretty good:

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[zelph]

Modified Toaks Light 700 with esbit, another good choice,

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[rocketsocks]

This Inferno HX pot is looking pretty good:

41078finally someone used a copper wick to facilitate

[rocketsocks]

Vapor pressure

[zelph]

finally someone used a copper wick to facilitate

Copper wick works great in cold weather to help alcohol to ignite. The XL3 burner is awesome.

http://www.woodgaz-stove.com/starlyte-xl3.php