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I posted a thread a couple months ago about having trouble opening a tightly packed cuben fiber sleeping bag. When I opened the box I had inadvertently scratched and thereby tore a frail and very easily cut material that I had zero previous experience with. Numerous posters on this site crucified me for not using a spoon or a thumb and not having their expertise in unpacking camping gear from cottage industry/mom and pop companies.
I recently got an ultralight tarp from Gossamer Gear and Lo and Behold!!!! They attach a warning on the OUTSIDE of their box saying not to use a knife.
So I stand by my original premise that the other company at the end of the alphabet could have done a better job packaging and could have done a better job standing behind their stated warranty on their webpage of "complete satisfaction." I am not bitter with the company that packed the sleeping bag. In fact I even inquired and was looking to buy their bivvy sac but they don't have it in stock and they won't be available until April because they don't have the materials.
so a very sincere, Thank you Gossamer Gear.
Hikingjim
12-08-2016, 15:53
The coffee I just bought also says "Caution. Hot!" on it. Thanks to them, otherwise I would have risked pouring it on my leg
I have noticed similar warnings from other companies on fragile gear. A nice courtesy, but shouldn't be required
With cuben material for big $$, you'd think (as a manufacturer) that most people have a basic idea about it.
The Solemates
12-08-2016, 15:56
as a manufacturer myself, I'd think the manufacturer wouldnt pack it so tightly. i know our customers would force us to replace it in a similar situation. we hire packaging engineers for a reason.
Not bitter but you start another post about the same subject.
Thom
saltysack
12-08-2016, 17:25
I ordered a gorilla just after your first rant....laughed when I saw That warning label as I thought of you!!! GG is a great company though....
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G, Z, H or U are all great companies.
It's hard to make it idiot proof.
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Flounder940
12-08-2016, 18:43
Good Lord, let it go. It was your dumbass fault that you cut your Zpacks tarp, or stuff sack or whatever it was. Just.....let....it.....go. Everyone had forgotten about you, but you went and reminded us all what a dumbass you are. Thank you for that.
cmoulder
12-08-2016, 18:51
So I stand by my original premise that the other company at the end of the alphabet could have done a better job packaging and could have done a better job standing behind their stated warranty on their webpage of "complete satisfaction."
Seriously? You slice it and it's their fault??
I've gotten a package or two from Zpacks and Enlightened Equipment and just figured I should be really, really careful opening them. Call me crazy but it has worked pretty well so far.
So here's the suggested warning: "DON'T USE A KNIFE. DUH"
Sandy of PA
12-08-2016, 18:53
I love boxes from Moosejaw, they say "do not use a knife, open with your teeth!".
That was months ago and you still can't move on? I feel bad for any old flames that dumped you...
That was months ago and you still can't move on? I feel bad for any old flames that dumped you...
Probably not his fault.
ScareBear
12-08-2016, 22:21
Probably not his fault.
LMAO and refraining from making any tiny knife joke...just sayin....
SWODaddy
12-08-2016, 22:32
Yeah, and grocery bags have warnings to not put them over your head. That doesn't absolve a presumably fit person from suffocating themselves absent a warning.
fastfoxengineering
12-09-2016, 05:36
Wait... What? ZPacks is awesome. Isn't a lot of gossamer gears stuff outsourced from overseas? Besides the point. Why would you open what you know is extremely expensive and delicate gear with a blade. Hell, I won't even cook within ten feet of my cuben fiber tarps or down bags. Yeah I understand poor packaging. But if it arrived poorly packaged, wouldn't you be more careful opening it? I don't get it. But knives and cuben fiber don't mix. Lesson learned.
ScareBear
12-09-2016, 07:53
Knives and tents don't mix. Period. Stoves and tents don't mix. Period. Cigs and tents don't mix. Period.(Read Jon Kraukauer's hilarious tale off how he burned his tent down by smoking a joint on his first expedition!)
But, I suppose you have to put it in writing for the perpetually clueless. Like Moosejaw. They had Lear in mind when they made their warning label.....just sayin....
[QUOTE=Lear;2110469]I posted a thread a couple months ago
Numerous posters on this site crucified me
I recently got an ultralight tarp from Gossamer Gear and Lo and Behold!!!! They attach a warning on the OUTSIDE of their box saying not to use a knife.
So I stand by my original premise
I am not bitter
If I could, politely, suggest, that you view several of these fine video's;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9pPyKYgcBk
clusterone
12-09-2016, 17:37
Good Lord, let it go. It was your dumbass fault that you cut your Zpacks tarp, or stuff sack or whatever it was. Just.....let....it.....go. Everyone had forgotten about you, but you went and reminded us all what a dumbass you are. Thank you for that.
Unbelievable... +1
rocketsocks
12-10-2016, 04:10
Ya can't fix ridiculous!
coach lou
12-10-2016, 10:28
Ya can't fix ridiculous!
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imscotty
12-10-2016, 10:31
Probably not his fault.
Post of the day!
left52side
12-12-2016, 06:54
That was months ago and you still can't move on? I feel bad for any old flames that dumped you...
Probably not his fault.
BWAAAHAAAHAA ,I think I just pissed myself....
But seriously bro let it go.
You screwed up opening A box deal with it.
The outer shell and inner liner of Zpacks bags are actually ripstop nylon, easily repairable. The inner baffles are cuben. What you tore was ripstop nylon.