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llittle_llama
01-20-2017, 02:03
Trying to decide on gloves. Some people tell me it's a waste of money and others tell me it's not. I hate having cold hands and want them but I'm not really sure what type of gloves to get. I assume some nice pre-bent fingers, and nothing for skiing but other than that I don't know if I should do fleece or what.
Manzella Cascade Convertable Uniform Gloves are my favorite for dry winter weather conditions. Before that it was some cheap 40g thinsulate glove mittens from Walmart. I need to get some event rain mitts for wet winter weather.
BTW. I usually start wearing gloves when it gets around 30°. Convertable gloves keep my fingers warmer because they are part mitten, and when your hands feel a little too warm you can easily vent them by folding back the mitten part. Also makes it easy to operate cell phone, gps, zippers, etc. with your fingers. You don't have to take off the whole glove.
Given a start date in mid March, you will see freezing weather...bring gloves.
fastfoxengineering
01-20-2017, 06:34
If your planning on thru hiking the AT, some USGI army wool glove liners are a good option. Light, warm, cheap.
They aren't the most durable. But been using mine for 4+ seasons.
You won't always need them. But I never send my fleece beanie or gloves home. 2.5 ounces of safety gear imo.
They cost me like $4.50 at a surplus store.
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jjozgrunt
01-20-2017, 06:57
I use possum fur/merino blend gloves from New Zealand, and Zpacks sell them to I think. Incredibly warm even when wet and light my large size are 1.13 ozs for the pair. I team them up with some mittens from MLD when it's raining. Not likely to be using either of them, whilst walking, unless it's very cold and/or wet. For those that are interested my beanie of the same material is only 0.42ozs.
jimmyjam
01-20-2017, 07:17
A thin pair of the smartwool gloves and some over mittens like those from MLD will work in a wide variety of conditions.
Traveler
01-20-2017, 08:05
A thin pair of the smartwool gloves and some over mittens like those from MLD will work in a wide variety of conditions.
+1 these are my go-to gloves for just about all cold weather conditions. Incredibly light, wicking and breathable, quick drying, they work very well for not a lot of money. Consider as well some fingerless gloves used for kayak and canoe paddles (NRS or similar type) especially if you are using trekking poles. You can wear these over the smart wool gloves or alone. I am usually comfortable down to about 35 degrees with just the fingerless gloves. They are padded, help prevent blisters (very useful when poles are wet), provide hand protection for rock scrambles, and dry exceptionally fast.
ScareBear
01-20-2017, 08:30
You will need gloves for any number of reasons. The eVent rain mitts by MLD and others are a +1. But, that isn't all you are going to want...
Look for a pair of polypro gloves. Mine are a simple, light and cheap pair of Nike jogger gloves, with no rubber on the palm/fingers. Just polypro and a reflective Nike logo. Worn under mitts, your hands should be warm enough for any AT temps. Also, a little mentioned fact is that a lot of folks sleep with liner gloves or gloves like mine. You would be surprised at how much difference gloves makes when you sleep in 20 degree weather! Mine were on sale at Kohl's for 10 bucks. Before that I used my Lowe alpine mitts with removable wool glove liner. Too freaking heavy and too freaking warm...just sayin...
Yes, a pair of thin fleece gloves are well worth the weight.
llittle_llama
01-20-2017, 09:08
How are these: https://www.rei.com/rei-garage/product/889752/gordini-fall-line-ii-soft-shell-mittens-mens
Paired with these: https://www.rei.com/product/873158/smartwool-liner-tech-compatible-gloves
llittle_llama
01-20-2017, 09:09
And not glove related, but I ran across these two coats and wanted some opinions ;)
Merrell Transcendic Down Puffer Jacket - Men's (https://www.rei.com/product/898546/merrell-transcendic-down-puffer-jacket-mens) (green sulfur)
Merrell Wildgarst Down Puffer Jacket - Men's (https://www.rei.com/product/898568/merrell-wildgarst-down-puffer-jacket-mens)
And this rain jacket: https://www.rei.com/rei-garage/product/103806/mountain-hardwear-ampato-rain-jacket-mens
Yes, bring gloves. I have been using these light synthetic gloves for a decade of backpacking now:
https://hestragloves.com/sport/en/gloves/liners/34130-multi-active-man-woman-five-finger/350/
Pastor Bryon
01-20-2017, 09:24
+1 to MLD gear, plus it supports your local economy!
llittle_llama
01-20-2017, 09:29
+1 to MLD gear, plus it supports your local economy!
HOLY CRAP!!! They're here in ROA! I might just have to stop in and grab a set :D
llittle_llama
01-20-2017, 09:32
Smartwool ordered :) Now to get the covers. Really feeling the MLD now that I know they're local ;)
ScareBear
01-20-2017, 10:01
How are these: https://www.rei.com/rei-garage/product/889752/gordini-fall-line-ii-soft-shell-mittens-mens
Paired with these: https://www.rei.com/product/873158/smartwool-liner-tech-compatible-gloves
The mittens are insulated. Feh.
The liners are fine, don't get them too small. I prefer polypro over wool, though...
ScareBear
01-20-2017, 10:16
And not glove related, but I ran across these two coats and wanted some opinions ;)
Merrell Transcendic Down Puffer Jacket - Men's (https://www.rei.com/product/898546/merrell-transcendic-down-puffer-jacket-mens) (green sulfur)
Merrell Wildgarst Down Puffer Jacket - Men's (https://www.rei.com/product/898568/merrell-wildgarst-down-puffer-jacket-mens)
And this rain jacket: https://www.rei.com/rei-garage/product/103806/mountain-hardwear-ampato-rain-jacket-mens
I don't know the weights of the down jackets, but I'd say go with option #1, as it has 800FP down. Do you want the hoodie is the big question here....
The MH Ampato is a unique rain jacket. It has a "liner" which makes it really well suited to "shoulder" weather(snow/freezing rain/sleet). However, it is heavy at 18 ounces. Twice as heavy as the Marmot Precip. And, that matters...
llittle_llama
01-20-2017, 10:21
The MH Ampato is a unique rain jacket. It has a "liner" which makes it really well suited to "shoulder" weather(snow/freezing rain/sleet). However, it is heavy at 18 ounces. Twice as heavy as the Marmot Precip. And, that matters...
Might as well stick with the GoreTex at that point...
llittle_llama
01-20-2017, 10:26
Do you want the hoodie is the big question here....
I DO want the hoodie and didn't notice the Sulfur didn't come with one :( The jacket I just bought doesn't have a hood either and that's why I'm looking to get another one. I want something for the first part of the hike when it will be cold as hell! Engine pointed this jacket out to me: REI Co-op Down Jacket - Men's (https://www.rei.com/product/878092) that I scooped up for $48.83 but I need something a bit warmer.
ScareBear
01-20-2017, 10:27
No. Just get the Precip...you can always find it on sale....
https://marmot.com/products/details/precip-jacket-new?gs-us=1&utm_term=889169839658&mr:referralID=6519c3a0-df1c-11e6-b294-0050569406b5&gclid=Cj0KEQiAh4fEBRCZhriIjLfArrQBEiQArzzDAagD5kyo ta3eUudPjuG4NgFF4LwQLCVPZDJ_4RLK828aAnX08P8HAQ
swisscross
01-20-2017, 10:49
I don't know the weights of the down jackets, but I'd say go with option #1, as it has 800FP down. Do you want the hoodie is the big question here....
The MH Ampato is a unique rain jacket. It has a "liner" which makes it really well suited to "shoulder" weather(snow/freezing rain/sleet). However, it is heavy at 18 ounces. Twice as heavy as the Marmot Precip. And, that matters...
Precip weighs over 13 oz.
I started my thru in mid April. I took a pair of cheap fleece gloves I brought for a few $. Glad I did. Later on I just discarded them. Bring gloves, for the extra weight you won't be sorry.
saltysack
01-20-2017, 11:08
Smartwool ordered :) Now to get the covers. Really feeling the MLD now that I know they're local ;)
Get with Ron at MLD before you order crap from Rei garage sale...I love Rei but Ron can point you in the right direction way better than any employees at REI. Top notch gear and company...
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saltysack
01-20-2017, 11:40
Forgot to mention. If your trying to save some money bread bags work good over liner gloves for rain.
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trailmercury
01-20-2017, 14:16
Forgot to mention. If your trying to save some money bread bags work good over liner gloves for rain.
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How do they work with poles?
I would think not well.
I will be carrying possum down gloves and the Zpacks Challenger Mits
swjohnsey
01-20-2017, 14:23
Zpak makes some really cool cuben mitten shells with fleece liners that aren't that expensive.
The REI fleece gloves are very decent for the price. If you combine these with a shell mitt you'll be good for whatever you face during thru-hiker season.
HOLY CRAP!!! They're here in ROA! I might just have to stop in and grab a set :D
To my knowledge Ron doesn't have a store to walk into, just a production location. That said, he's a great guy to deal with. If you ever do any local running, he's at the majority of the Tuesday and Thursday evening pub runs.
Liner gloves / light shell combo.
Versatile, not expensive, not heavy.
Sarcasm the elf
01-20-2017, 16:44
Liner gloves / light shell combo.
Versatile, not expensive, not heavy.
This.
I recommend wool liners over synthetic as well. I've had various stoves flare up at me in winter conditions while I was wearing gloves and I'd much rather have singed wool gloves than have synthetic gloves melted to my skin.
saltysack
01-20-2017, 16:56
How do they work with poles?
I would think not well.
I will be carrying possum down gloves and the Zpacks Challenger Mits
Honestly I've only needed them a few times out west and few on AT worked great w a rubber band above wrist and put them on before rain your shell...I also wear as camp shoes at night if nature calls...dual purpose...
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saltysack
01-20-2017, 16:58
How do they work with poles?
I would think not well.
I will be carrying possum down gloves and the Zpacks Challenger Mits
Obviously I'd rather have ZPacks or MLD mits but I'm not spending the $$ as don't use them often enough as liners alone are usually sufficient for me.
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AfterParty
01-20-2017, 19:39
I have some rei gortex that are nice had them for years
Christoph
01-20-2017, 21:51
Started my hike mid April and there were a few nights I put my Smartwool socks to dual purpose use.
SubSquid
01-20-2017, 22:23
I just switched to these fox river glomitts and really like them. Being able to have the ability to use your finger tips is great.
https://www.amazon.com/Fox-River-Layer-Glomitt-Large/dp/B000J00WBI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1484964966&sr=8-3&keywords=fox+river+mittens
Precip weighs over 13 oz.
My Marmot Precip Large weighs 10oz 283g
My Montbell UL Doown Jacket weighs 8.3oz 236g in Stuff sac 8.55oz.
Dang, the Thread is about Gloves...
Yes for me, 1oz Polypropylene Glove Liners, Wristies, and I have DIY Wool Mittens for Camp.
Elaikases
01-21-2017, 01:42
I tried some black diamond fingerless with a flash dry liner -- the liner just did not work. I'm going to give the smart wool a shot. I was actually warmer without the flash dry north face gloves as a liner.
Really appreciate the suggestions here.
gollwoods
01-21-2017, 05:04
And not glove related, but I ran across these two coats and wanted some opinions ;)
Merrell Transcendic Down Puffer Jacket - Men's (https://www.rei.com/product/898546/merrell-transcendic-down-puffer-jacket-mens) (green sulfur)
Merrell Wildgarst Down Puffer Jacket - Men's (https://www.rei.com/product/898568/merrell-wildgarst-down-puffer-jacket-mens)
And this rain jacket: https://www.rei.com/rei-garage/product/103806/mountain-hardwear-ampato-rain-jacket-mens
DRY Q is very nice. I have a MH jacket with Dry Q. Make sure it has pit zips too. If you are in wet weather and hiking your going to get clammy, this will help.
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squeezebox
01-21-2017, 05:29
And I thought the opossam fur was a joke.
jjozgrunt
01-21-2017, 06:23
Not a joke and its possum fur no O. Introduced pest in New Zealand with hollow fur like a polar bear. Combined with merino wool for the feel. Very light and very warm. Have the beanie and gloves and they are very warm, even when wet. Dry pretty quick as well. https://mohairpossumstore.com/product-category/possum/gloves/
Elaikases
01-21-2017, 11:49
https://www.amazon.com/Black-Diamond-Half-Finger-Climbing-X-Large/dp/B01KH5ECEM/ref=sr_1_22?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1484977560&sr=1-22&keywords=black+diamond+half+gloves is what I have that worked for me. The flash dry gloves/liners I wore under them I returned to REI.
G-FOURce
01-21-2017, 11:58
http://www.mountainhardwear.com/mens-power-stretch-glove-1552761.html?cgid=mens-accessories-gloves&dwvar_1552761_variationColor=090#start=13
I havent found a glove I like as much as those
I use possum fur/merino blend gloves from New Zealand, and Zpacks sell them to I think. Incredibly warm even when wet and light my large size are 1.13 ozs for the pair. I team them up with some mittens from MLD when it's raining. Not likely to be using either of them, whilst walking, unless it's very cold and/or wet. For those that are interested my beanie of the same material is only 0.42ozs.
Exactly! :)
poolskaterx
01-21-2017, 21:17
I use mtb full finger gloves all the time, hiking, in camp; I like the protection from sun and elements; enough warmth for me into the 30s if I am active. Still looking for rain protection.
Problem I had with power stretch/ fleece is they don't hold up when using poles and tactile feel is just not there for doing tasks in camp. I do have a pair of fleece gloves I wear when I sleep, I think they are NorthFace.
Pretty sure my comment was not much help.
MtDoraDave
01-29-2017, 16:59
Talking to a friend of mine who used to work for the railroad up north, she said the wet suit gloves (scuba diving) were the only thing that kept her hands warm and still allowed her to "work" . I am going to look further into this idea. Anyone else use wet suit neoprene gloves? A quick google showed me they come in 3 mm or 5 mm thicknesses.
Pondjumpr
01-30-2017, 18:01
+1 for Green military glove liners. I know they are offered in wool and maybe you will find some in Acrylic. I wear them hunting and they are great when it's not raining.
When I hike, I use the newer liners that are very think polypropylene. My wife uses very thin thinsulate gloves and she runs in them.
When you are active, thin and lightweight is often fine. I do, however, make sure that my down jacket has pockets. Sometimes you just need to warm your hands up on those cold mornings.