Healty options & how good is freeze dried food for you?

[HelveticHiker]

I'm not a health nut and I will pack some candies and the occasional Snickers and M&M's, but I'm also looking for some healthy food options for my 500-Miles AT section hike.
Besides oats, jerkey, nuts & dried fruit what do you take?
And how good are freeze dried meals for you? I'm always a little bit concerned about highly processed food and too many preservatives...

[peakbagger]

Freeze dried is exactly what the name implies. It doesn't need any high processing or preservatives. The reason it lasts is the water is taken out of it so bacteria cannot grow. Sure you can buy packaged freeze dried meals with all sorts of additives to improve the taste or appearance but that's your choice. There are several suppliers of bulk dehydrated food with little of no preservatives. Get a vacuum sealer and if you want some oxygen absorbers although I find that as long as you keep dehydrated veggies dry in a ziplock they last for quite awhile.

My long term section hiking menu dinners were a Lipton (now Knorr) noodle mix with a bag of mixed dehydrated veggies and either a canned meat or a bag of dehydrated chicken along with some spices. Bring the lipton noodles up to a boil, simmer for a minute or two then dump in the dehydrated stuff and then wrap it up in fleece and let it sit for 10 minutes.

[StubbleJumper]

I say that you take the good with the bad. For me, a thru hike is almost always a great thing for my health as my stress levels disappear altogether after about 2 weeks, I drink only water on the trail rather than coffee and beer, and I consume far less red meat which reduces my saturated fat intake. I typically lose between 10 and 20 pounds on a thru, which might say something about how healthy I am when I'm not hiking.

So, turning to your question of freeze dried or other light foods, I'd say they're not ideal. It's hard to get a balanced diet on the trail. You never seem to get enough fresh fruit and veggies, probably you don't get enough fibre, and I suspect that you might not get the whole complement of vitamins on the trail. I find that stopping in town helps to fill out some of those gaps, but 5 days out of 6 my diet on the trail is sub-optimal. The dried food itself is perfectly safe, although it tends to be higher in sodium and is mainly carbs.

Overall, I really don't worry too much about it. I know in my heart that, for me, the overall health benefits of a thru-hike far exceed any temporary effects of poor nutrition.

[Spirit Walker]

I found that the freeze dried meals didn't fill me as much as Knorr pasta/rice and a protein add in. They made a nice change of taste though. Unless you dehydrate on your own, you will probably be sub-par on nutrition. When you get to town, you can fill up, but you'll be eating at diners, where vegetables tend to be the boil all day variety. Salads are iceberg. Mostly you'll be eating fattening garbage. I usually was able to get fruit and juice and milk, but decent vegetables were hard to find, aside from a few hostels that had vegetarian hosts.

[Odd Man Out]

I've never hiked with freeze dried meals (Ala Mountain House). One of my favorites is red lentis, basmati rice, curry powder, and salt. Bring 150 grams of this mix to boil in 2 cups water with a dollop of olive oil, let set in pot cozy for 15 min. Lentils amd basmati rice cook faster than other legumes and grains so you can save time and fuel by just bringing to boil.

[Tipi Walter]

The healthiest option would be to design and cook up and dehydrate all your backpacking foods at home before a trip. It's easy and cheap to do. I just finished drying all my food for a February trip and currently I'm on a cooked bean and quinoa jag, augmented with tempeh and Chao vegan cheese and the usual nut butters and pumpkin seeds etc.

You can cook up a big pot of organic pinto beans and a pot of quinoa and then blend the two together thoroughly adding water for easy blending. Then pour this mix onto your dehydrator trays and dry for the ziplocks. You can bake sweet potatoes and mash and dry and add later to cooked meals. Check out my backpacking drying ideas here---

https://tipiwalter.smugmug.com/keyword/kitchen/

[One Half]

The healthiest option would be to design and cook up and dehydrate all your backpacking foods at home before a trip. It's easy and cheap to do. I just finished drying all my food for a February trip and currently I'm on a cooked bean and quinoa jag, augmented with tempeh and Chao vegan cheese and the usual nut butters and pumpkin seeds etc.

You can cook up a big pot of organic pinto beans and a pot of quinoa and then blend the two together thoroughly adding water for easy blending. Then pour this mix onto your dehydrator trays and dry for the ziplocks. You can bake sweet potatoes and mash and dry and add later to cooked meals. Check out my backpacking drying ideas here---

https://tipiwalter.smugmug.com/keyword/kitchen/

Hey Tipi, are you vegan?

OP - freeze dried MEALS definitely have tons of preservatives in them as well as way too much sodium. And if you don't care about that part then I would say bring those and eat them as you can afford. I used to eat a lot of the commercial ones. However, we no longer eat food processed/cooked/preserved by others. I now freeze dry my own meals. I'll include the link to my thread on it at the bottom of this post. Someone mentioned buying just the components of meals in bulk - veggies and meats etc. That's a good option. You may even be able to try various vendors in "sample packs" or at least smaller serving packs to see which vendor you prefer. I have several friends who prefer Wise, others prefer Harmony House, and I will say that when I ate them I actually liked the MH ones. I "think" Wise meals are "flatter" and thus pack easier IIRC.

I do find it funny, whenever we have a thread about food, the people who chime in and say - you're going to be missing nutrients and/or you'll get bored if you prebuy and mail/carry your meals ahead of time. LOL cause Ramen and Knorr weeks on end are great! I remember "years ago" there was a survey conducted (more taxpayer $ going to waste) that found almost all people eat the same 5 dinners, week in and week out. Dehydrating your own is also a good way to go and add some variety.

Here's my freeze drying thread FYI
https://whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/121541-Harvest-Right-Freeze-Dryer-my-results?highlight=

[bamboo bob]

500 miles is just four weeks. I doubt it matters what you eat for a few months let alone just four weeks.

[Tipi Walter]

Sort of vegan except for the occasional egg---but no dairy and of course no meat/fish.

I know nothing about freeze-drying versus home dehydration. But if I see something worth eating on a trip I'll slap it in the dehydrator and see what happens. I dried about everything possible including sliced mushrooms and whole burritos sliced thin and fruit smoothies and even yogurt.

Plus there ALWAYS OATMEAL!!! When things get confused I always return to my oatmeal dinners---cooks fast in the field with sea salt, raw honey, black walnuts and/or peanut butter and no wait time. Available everywhere.

[Feral Bill]

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. You can bake sweet potatoes and mash and dry and add later to cooked meals. [/QUOTE]

You have my attention with this one:)

[HelveticHiker]

500 miles is just four weeks. I doubt it matters what you eat for a few months let alone just four weeks.

Four weeks? I was planing six! But I'd like to start slow and take my time... and yes it might not matter what I eat for this period, you are right... I usually don't think so much about food... but since my body will have to work so much harder than it normaly has to, I want to add some good "fuel"....

[Tipi Walter]

You have my attention with this one:)

https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpack-2016-Trips-171/17-Days-with-the-Cranberries/i-7zjNVHG/0/XL/TRIP%20173%20008-XL.jpg
Here is a sweet potato baked and mashed onto a drier tray and just finished drying. Add this in the field to soups to thicken etc.

[Dogwood]

I always get hungry reading Tipi and Vegan Hiker's trail foods.

Growing movement of people wanting to know how and where their food is sourced, what's in it, and how it gets to the table. I'm like Tipi, I'm one of them. I like designing my own food both on and off trail. I will not defer my choice of food options or food prep to the food "science" lab specialists( almost married one) who design food like products we are led to believe is food. Want better health avoid highly processed highly refined prepackaged food like products.

I get better trail food quality by aiming to eat more whole foods - foods in there as natural least processed least refined state. I always include having an assortment of fresh "living" - non enzymatically denatured food on trail. Four main ways this is accomplished 1) I tend to resupply more often to lower overall food wt but imbalance it out so to include heavier fresh produce like vegetables, fruit, herbs(cilantro, parsley, dill etc.), garlic, ginger, turmeric, seafood, whole least refined grains(quinoa, millet, whole oats, groats, amaranth, buckwheat, etc), seeds(pumpkin, sunflower, chia, HEMP!, flax, sesame, etc), nuts(often sprouted and raw), etc 2) creating my own meals rather than rely on prepackaged. For example, I'd rather tweak my own oat meal adding what I want for optimal nutrition and taste rather than consuming often high sugar and preservative "flavored" oatmeal packets. 3) I mail some resupply boxes containing a variety of self created foods. I will hybrid resupply approach by also buying some along the way at predetermined farmers's markets, large grocery stores, Food Co-Ops, and Health Food stores. Easy enough on LD hikes on the AT! 4) grow fresh sprouts to add to food or eat alone as a snack ON TRAIL as I hike. This is accomplished with a hemp fabric seed sprouting kit sold inexpensively by Outdoor Herbivore https://outdoorherbivore.com One of the best Christmas gifts I ever received!

[Dogwood]

500 miles is just four weeks. I doubt it matters what you eat for a few months let alone just four weeks.

Try eating nothing but coconut chips or slugging down Parkay margarine or Whey for several days. ;) Never had the idea that my performance wasn't affected by what I consume.

[devoidapop]

I've never hiked with freeze dried meals (Ala Mountain House). One of my favorites is red lentis, basmati rice, curry powder, and salt. Bring 150 grams of this mix to boil in 2 cups water with a dollop of olive oil, let set in pot cozy for 15 min. Lentils amd basmati rice cook faster than other legumes and grains so you can save time and fuel by just bringing to boil.

I also love lentils for camp dinners. I soak mine with a cinnamon stick, cloves, cardamon, etc in a ziploc while I hike. Then all you have to do is add a little more water, some oil, some dry veggies, bring to a quick boil and let it steep for 5 minutes.

Thumbs up to everybody who wants to eat a little better on the trail.

[Dogwood]

I also love lentils for camp dinners. I soak mine with a cinnamon stick, cloves, cardamon, etc in a ziploc while I hike. Then all you have to do is add a little more water, some oil, some dry veggies, bring to a quick boil and let it steep for 5 minutes.

Thumbs up to everybody who wants to eat a little better on the trail.

One simple real life healthier solution.

Before someone sees problems with lentil cook/food prep times I'll offer this solution - Lentils come in several forms including already cooked and with much the prep done. Example being Tasty Bites Madras and Bombay Lentil options. Resupply more often, the wt and some fresh veggies, ginger, added coconut milk powder, fresh turmeric, green onion, or fuel time is offset. Could be a viable option.

[Dogwood]

http://tastybite.com/product_type/indian-entrees/

Please chime in Another Kevin. You make some tasty Indian/Asian on trail meals!

[Deadeye]

Harmony House http://www.harmonyhousefoods.com/ has great dehydrated (not freeze dried) vegetable selections and samplers. Just like at home, I like to make a meal with veggies and lean proteins, and on the trail will add more starchy foods like potatoes, noodles, or rice. On trail, they just tend to be more of a one-pot preparation. A typical trail dinner meal for me would be to pre-soak some dehydrated broccoli, peas, and onions, while setting up camp, bring it all to a boil, add mashed potatoes and a packet of chicken meat (or freeze-dried chicken). There are a couple gazillion starch/veggie/protein combinations. With a little effort and planning, you can eat reasonably "clean" on the trail. Makes up for all the pop-tarts :-?

[Odd Man Out]

The red lentils are very small and cook fine with 15 to 20 min in a cozy after coming to boil. Same witn basmati rice. No need to buy pre cooked or dehydrated. The more common brown lentils and wregular rice cook slower but also work. They might just be a bit al dente.

[Dogwood]

Love that wregular rice you waskily rabbit.

[Tipi Walter]

Try eating nothing but coconut chips or slugging down Parkay margarine or Whey for several days. ;) Never had the idea that my performance wasn't affected by what I consume.

This coincides to what "expert" backpacker Lawton Disco Grinter has to say---

"It took me the bulk of 10,000 miles of long-distance hiking to really grasp the concept that junk food and carrying less food to save overall pack weight works against you both in the short-term and the long run."

See source---

http://sectionhiker.com/trail-food-the-most-important-piece-of-gear-in-your-pack-by-lawton-disco-grinter/


http://tastybite.com/product_type/indian-entrees/

Please chime in Another Kevin. You make some tasty Indian/Asian on trail meals!

Several years ago I went the whole Tasty Bites experience and ordered a beaucoup amount for my various backpacking trips. At first I used to carry the pouches as is---10 or 12 at a time---at 10-12oz each they got heavy. Then I started drying them at home and reconst. in the field. Here's a pic of a tasty bite pouch on a trip from about 4 years ago---

https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpacking2009/A-5-Day-Autumn-Tease-Trip-101/i-KDfcrNb/0/L/TRIP%20101%20050-L.jpg

Now I can make better meals at home and dry them for every trip.

[Dogwood]

https://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/123112-Healty-options-amp-how-good-is-freeze-dried-food-for-you/images/Eloquent/miscgreen/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Dogwood https://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/123112-Healty-options-amp-how-good-is-freeze-dried-food-for-you/images/Eloquent/buttonsgreen/viewpost-right.png (https://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/123112-Healty-options-amp-how-good-is-freeze-dried-food-for-you/showthread.php?p=2125231#post2125231)
Try eating nothing but coconut chips or slugging down Parkay margarine or Whey for several days. https://whiteblaze.net/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif Never had the idea that my performance wasn't affected by what I consume.



This coincides to what "expert" backpacker Lawton Disco Grinter has to say---

"It took me the bulk of 10,000 miles of long-distance hiking to really grasp the concept that junk food and carrying less food to save overall pack weight works against you both in the short-term and the long run."

And Lawton "Disco", and also his LD backpacking wife Felicia "P.O.D - Princess of Darkness", are in very good athletic shape. Nice couple too.

Not everyone has the healthy/healthier food bug but Heather "Anish", Liz "Snorkel", Scott Williamson, Aria Zoner "Whole Foods Hiker", Scott Jurek, and a longer list of others maintain that healthier food options translate into better performance. Obviously we both agree Tipi.

[Venchka]

Throw some tofu in the Mountain House pouch and call it good. [emoji106][emoji41][emoji1]
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[Patrickjd9]

Try eating nothing but coconut chips or slugging down Parkay margarine or Whey for several days. ;)

That just gave me the really strange reminder of seeing hikers in the 90s carry a pound of liquid Parkay in a plastic bottle. Younger me found it strange, old man me is grossed out.

[Tipi Walter]

That just gave me the really strange reminder of seeing hikers in the 90s carry a pound of liquid Parkay in a plastic bottle. Younger me found it strange, old man me is grossed out.

This reminds me of the time I went on a backpacking trip to Slickrock Creek and met up with Johnny Molloy and it was like going back to the 1970's. He whipped out his gear and showed me his food stash---including an entire box of hungry jack pancake mix---

https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpacking2011/Tipi-Walter-and-Johnny-Molloy/i-5bD8w2Z/0/XL/TRIP%20125%20100-XL.jpg

[QiWiz]

I'm not a health nut and I will pack some candies and the occasional Snickers and M&M's, but I'm also looking for some healthy food options for my 500-Miles AT section hike.
Besides oats, jerkey, nuts & dried fruit what do you take?
And how good are freeze dried meals for you? I'm always a little bit concerned about highly processed food and too many preservatives...

Freeze dried food should be just about as nutritious as fresh.

[Dogwood]

Johnny Malloy, the trail author?

[roys]

This thread is very timely for me. It has re-motivated me to get back to dehydrating. Thanks for starting the thread. And Tipi, great stuff as usual.

[Tipi Walter]

Johnny Malloy, the trail author?

Yes, the king of bag nights. WARNING Thread Drift---

https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpacking2011/Tipi-Walter-and-Johnny-Molloy/i-TVB4CSH/0/L/TRIP%20125%20086-L.jpg
Here's Johnny Molloy's campsite on Slickrock Creek. He only uses a tarp and never carries a stove and so he always builds a small fire under or near his tarp for cooking . . . . his . . . . pancakes.


This thread is very timely for me. It has re-motivated me to get back to dehydrating. Thanks for starting the thread. And Tipi, great stuff as usual.

Home food prep and drying has radically changed the way I view food on my trips. It opens up a wide range of options too complicated to actually discuss here.

[Patrickjd9]

This reminds me of the time I went on a backpacking trip to Slickrock Creek and met up with Johnny Molloy and it was like going back to the 1970's. He whipped out his gear and showed me his food stash---including an entire box of hungry jack pancake mix---
and a whole jar of salsa.

[Slo-go'en]

Four weeks? I was planing six! But I'd like to start slow and take my time... and yes it might not matter what I eat for this period, you are right... I usually don't think so much about food... but since my body will have to work so much harder than it normaly has to, I want to add some good "fuel"....

The reality is most of us get by with Lipton "sides" (noodle or rice with a dry sauce) with a packet of tuna mixed in for protein. I like corn chips for lunch, with some nuts. Massive sugar rush in the morning with a honey bun or other sweet Danish like junk food. Chocolate is good, but doesn't do well in the heat, but that's only a concern in the mid summer.

If you want to go meat and potato's Spam and instant mashed. I like Spam burgers - fried piece of spam with cheese and ketchup on a bagel.

All of the above is commonly available and at low cost.

[Tipi Walter]

Back in the old days (1982) me and my buddies would carry a 2 quart pot with the handle cut off and actual bags of lentils and brown rice. Cheap. Then we'd get to camp and fire up the Svea stove and actually slow cook a half pound of lentils or rice and wait an hour no problem. I'd throw in a hunk of cheese or cream cheese and add a handful of wild edibles (chickweek, violets, wild mustard, lamb's quarters etc).

We were dirt poor but still wanted to live outdoors on $40 a month and dangit we did so. A big box of oatmeal and a box of raisins and peanuts and we were set. The meat-eaters in the group preferred hauling out cans of dinty moore beef stew and putting it right on the campfire.

None of us EVER bought Pasta-Cides (death by pasta?) or god forbid the mountain house / dehydrated crap. We were too poor. Buy in bulk, cook slow and long, carry alot of white gas. Back then a gallon of coleman fuel cost about $2.

[saltysack]

I've never hiked with freeze dried meals (Ala Mountain House). One of my favorites is red lentis, basmati rice, curry powder, and salt. Bring 150 grams of this mix to boil in 2 cups water with a dollop of olive oil, let set in pot cozy for 15 min. Lentils amd basmati rice cook faster than other legumes and grains so you can save time and fuel by just bringing to boil.

Sounds good...you mind elaborating about brand choices etc.....


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[Odd Man Out]

Sounds good...you mind elaborating about brand choices etc.....

I dont think brands matter much. We have a few ethnic grocery stores in town which are gold mines. I got Madras curry powder (thats,a style, not a brand) from the Indian grocery store. You can buy kg size bags for what you would pay for oz size jars of generic curry at our local store. They carry about a dozen brands of basmati rice. I just buy what they tell me to buy. We also have a Mediterranean grocery that has an entire aisle with every kind of pulse (i.e. legume) known to man. Also a good place to get the really good Turkish style Baklava. Not sure it would pack well, but what a trail treat that would be. I also found a package of dehydrated soup vegetables at the Dutch import store. You can also get 5 gal buckets of almond paste and bulk salt licorice if you're into that. I've been buying California olive oil as they say a lot of the Italian oil is adulterated my the mafia. I mix 75 each of rice and lentis. Add a spoon full of dried soup veggie flakes and add curry and salt to taste. The oil is a calorie boost.

[Venchka]

Even in the East Texas piney woods Wilderness we have an Asian market with abundant lightweight goodies. Dried mushrooms, Korean Ramen, every form of coconut you can imagine, and more things I need to learn how to use.
Shop outside the big box stores.
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[Patrickjd9]

We just got an Aldi near our house. I need to go back and take down some specifics, but it looks promising for hiking food that won't break the bank.

[Venchka]

Trader Joe's for trail mix ingredients including freeze dried fruit.
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[BonBon]

I ate Knorrs side dishes and other commercially prepared stuff like that for the first half of the hike and then a friend gave all of her dehydrated home cooked meals to me for the second half. What a difference! More filling, better tasting, no chemicals or excessive sodium. I physically felt so much better. I will dehydrate my food for future bp trips. I tried to do this for my trip originally, but I had a cheap dehydrator so it was slow and frustrating. I will invest in a really good one when I make meals for my next hike.

[BonBon]

38170
Also- this is GREAT. You can find it in Walmart. I would cook this -it cooks pretty fast if you have a lid- (did not try it in a freezer bag) and throw in a tuna pack, ramps, cheese, olive oil or butter, fresh garlic. Very filling. My favorite was the 3 cheese. I got the tip from someone called Beast Bison. I believe she finished the whole trail in about 4 months. She was an elite athlete, I met her in NOC, and she gave me good carb loading tips.

[Venchka]

Tortolini and couscous are no brainers. A benefit of being old I guess.
Every pallet is different. I can't abide Knorr Sides. I like quality ramen. Yes, quality and ramen can go together. Look for the Korean variety.
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[Slo-go'en]

38170
Also- this is GREAT. You can find it in Walmart. I would cook this -it cooks pretty fast if you have a lid- (did not try it in a freezer bag) and throw in a tuna pack, ramps, cheese, olive oil or butter, fresh garlic. Very filling. My favorite was the 3 cheese. I got the tip from someone called Beast Bison. I believe she finished the whole trail in about 4 months. She was an elite athlete, I met her in NOC, and she gave me good carb loading tips.

Yea, I like dried tortellini a lot too, but it seems to be hard to find down south with the possible exception of Walmart for some reason. I haven't really found a decent sauce to go with it. Typically I'll add in pepperoni and a beef flavored bullion cube.

[Venchka]

Is there a just add water Italian sauce similar to the instant gravy products? For the dehydrated sauce at home challenged?
I actually wouldn't mind using instant gravy and some of the tortellini water. On a home trial basis. Experiment.
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[Odd Man Out]

I've used Knorr Parma Rosa sauce mix with La Piana Mezzaluna which you can get at World Market.
http://m.knorr.com/product/detail/246091/parma-rosa

http://www.worldmarket.com/product/mobile/la+piana+mezzaluna+pasta+with+pesto+filling.do

[NoChance]

I love freeze dried meals. I create my own. Instead of buying popular pre made brands ( mountain house) I buy individual products. For example. a container of FD Chicken or FD ground beef and combine with couscous, mashed pot's, or instant rice and then add FD veggies and various dried sauces and spices. I make chicken curry, thanksgiving meals, spaghetti meals, etc, all without added salt or soy, etc. Its much easier to count calories and most importantly, i reduce the amount of preservatives and salt. Most prepackaged meals are loaded with salt and is unnecessary. Depending on your individual needs, you can add the amount of protein, carbs, and fiber (very important!) and fat that you feel is necessary. Pasta can be bought dehydrated or FD. I specifically shop at The Ready Store as they do give VIP service to those who buy frequently. There are several websites online for various recipes and will inspire you to simply create your own. FYI: I found FD ground beef much more pleasant than FD diced beef:) and I stay away from FD eggs as the texture in my mouth felt like vomit. Sorry! I now know to stick to oatmeal or Fig Cookies; delicious for breakfast....full of fiber.....just sayin'

[rickmurph]

Tortolini and couscous are no brainers. A benefit of being old I guess.
Every pallet is different. I can't abide Knorr Sides. I like quality ramen. Yes, quality and ramen can go together. Look for the Korean variety.
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+1 on the good ramen
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[Venchka]

+1 on the good ramen
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Yep. That be right good ramen noodles in a right good pot. Kudos to you!
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[lesliedgray]

Freeze dried foods lose very little nutritional value.. the trick is just to PLAN sensibly.. from what i've read, people tend to live off of poptarts and ramen noodles. I realize that not everyone can buy their own freeze dryer, but the advantages are immense! Freeze dry your leftover meals or dabs of meals and take them. They don't require that much water to rehydrate, and the choices are as wide as your tastes. I don't own one yet, but plan to, and my wish to hike long trails is a motivating factor. I currently dehydrate fruits and vegetables, but they do lose some nutrition during the process


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[saltysack]

Yes, the king of bag nights. WARNING Thread Drift---

https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpacking2011/Tipi-Walter-and-Johnny-Molloy/i-TVB4CSH/0/L/TRIP%20125%20086-L.jpg
Here's Johnny Molloy's campsite on Slickrock Creek. He only uses a tarp and never carries a stove and so he always builds a small fire under or near his tarp for cooking . . . . his . . . . pancakes.



Home food prep and drying has radically changed the way I view food on my trips. It opens up a wide range of options too complicated to actually discuss here.

Love his books...I really enjoyed his Everglades guide...actually just looked at again a few days ago for my upcoming trip.


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[RockDoc]

Noodles aren't my first choice

http://siberiantimes.com/science/opinion/features/f0289-first-ever-cases-of-obesity-in-arctic-peoples-as-noodles-replace-traditional-diet/