Conservatism and censorship on whiteblaze.net

[longshank]

It a big problem with this site. Has anyone been censored for speaking their minds on whiteblaze? Please share your experiences...

[wacocelt]

Feel free to go elsewhere, in my opinion, sooner than later.

[longshank]

Feel free to go elsewhere, in my opinion, sooner than later.
I didn't ask your opinion.

[Lone Wolf]

It a big problem with this site. Has anyone been censored for speaking their minds on whiteblaze? Please share your experiences...
Start your own website and run it your way. you don't pay the bills here.

[Gray Blazer]

Didn't you get it the 1st time.....my apologies to all my friends at WhiteBlaze. Bear Bait II got baited again. Bad Bear BaitII!!

[longshank]

Start your own website and run it your way. you don't pay the bills here.
Neither do you. Don't tell me what to do.

[KirkMcquest]

absolutely longshank. This has happened twice to me, it seems as if people are alittle uptight while censuring the posts. Your last thread related to sex on the at, and people were speaking openly about a subject that is a natural part of life when the thread suddenly disappeared as if by divine intervention.

[wacocelt]

OK, then my answer is no, I've never been sensored here. Censorship isn't a big problem on WB, it's only a small problem, usually caused by small people with small minds and no morales. Namely people who think that under the priveleges of free speech and absolute annonymity of the interweb they can share thier tasteless urges on the rest of the world.

[dixicritter]

Enough already, if you don't like the way things are run here you are more than welcome to go elsewhere. If you want to participate in a constructive manner then by all means stick around and do so. However, it seems all you want to do is cause trouble and that will not be tolerated. So thank you in advance for doing the right thing and getting on with talk of hiking/backpacking/camping or the trail in general.

[hikerjohnd]

It a big problem with this site.

Is this a question or a statement? Were you censored for something? My time on this site has shown me that people are free to express their opinions, no matter what those opinions may be, as long as it is done without vulgarity.

[longshank]

OK, then my answer is no, I've never been sensored here. Censorship isn't a big problem on WB, it's only a small problem, usually caused by small people with small minds and no morales. Namely people who think that under the priveleges of free speech and absolute annonymity of the interweb they can share thier tasteless urges on the rest of the world.
Should I not be able to? No one is twisting your arm to participate. You have a CHOICE. The small minds on their moralistic high horses are the problem, not free thinkers and speakers.

[KirkMcquest]

Start your own website and run it your way. you don't pay the bills here.

very nasty response to longshanks, but thats no surprise from you. maybe you should be censured

[longshank]

Is this a question or a statement? Were you censored for something? My time on this site has shown me that people are free to express their opinions, no matter what those opinions may be, as long as it is done without vulgarity.
A statement. I've been censored no less than three times in the month since I joined this site. If people want to discuss topics that you don't like, then go to the next topic. Let the people who want to discuss these things do as they please, just as everyone else is allowed to. Don't pass moral judgement on me for my thoughts.

[Lone Wolf]

Go away little girl.

[wacocelt]

absolutely longshank. This has happened twice to me, it seems as if people are alittle uptight while censuring the posts. Your last thread related to sex on the at, and people were speaking openly about a subject that is a natural part of life when the thread suddenly disappeared as if by divine intervention.


You should be thankful that thread was deleted Kirk, I for one did read your post and think you are one of THE most dispicable people that has ever visited this site. Your description borderded very close on criminal and was without a doubt deviant. Seek help.

[KirkMcquest]

A statement. I've been censored no less than three times in the month since I joined this site. If people want to discuss topics that you don't like, then go to the next topic. Let the people who want to discuss these things do as they please, just as everyone else is allowed to. Don't pass moral judgement on me for my thoughts.

I agree with longshank . The discussions topics are posted and you don't have to go on those posts, why can't people talk about what they want?

[dixicritter]

I agree with longshank . The discussions topics are posted and you don't have to go on those posts, why can't people talk about what they want?

Because this is a hiking site, not a sex education site. We have minors that participate or at the very least read this site to gain hiking information. Again if you don't like the way WB is run you may leave at any time. However, if you are interested in discussing hiking/camping/backpacking or the trail in general the by all means you are welcome to do so. Again, thank you in advance for your co-operation.

[KirkMcquest]

absolutely longshank. This has happened twice to me, it seems as if people are alittle uptight while censuring the posts. Your last thread related to sex on the at, and people were speaking openly about a subject that is a natural part of life when the thread suddenly disappeared as if by divine intervention.


You should be thankful that thread was deleted Kirk, I for one did read your post and think you are one of THE most dispicable people that has ever visited this site. Your description borderded very close on criminal and was without a doubt deviant. Seek help.

You have the right to your opinion waco. I wouldn't stop you from criticizing me. i guess thats where we differ

[ed bell]

I think the Mission Statement for this website is clear. How about reading it? You know that there is a difference between moderated and unmoderated boards. Forums are open to all, which includes minors. Pretty easy to understand.:-? Beyond that I think your censorship whining is lame.

[KirkMcquest]

Because this is a hiking site, not a sex education site. We have minors that participate or at the very least read this site to gain hiking information. Again if you don't like the way WB is run you may leave at any time. However, if you are interested in discussing hiking/camping/backpacking or the trail in general the by all means you are welcome to do so. Again, thank you in advance for your co-operation.

Yes, I am aware that i can leave if I don't like it. The obvious implication is that you would prefer if I did. Thank YOU in advance for discontinueing your passive-aggressive remarks.

Longshanks asked WHY you are cesuring him, he did not ask you for his options

[longshank]

I think the Mission Statement for this website is clear. How about reading it? You know that there is a difference between moderated and unmoderated boards. Forums are open to all, which includes minors. Pretty easy to understand.:-? Beyond that I think your censorship whining is lame.
I think cenorship is lame, and besides, any kid old enough to figure out how to get to this site and participate in open discussion the intricacies of hiking the AT already knows about sex in depth from his friends, experience, and porn.

[longshank]

I think cenorship is lame, and besides, any kid old enough to figure out how to get to this site and participate in open discussion the intricacies of hiking the AT already knows about sex in depth from his friends, experience, and porn.
He's probably even got some good stories to share.

[AbeHikes]

Has anyone been censored for speaking their minds on whiteblaze?

Nope. Every hiking-related thread I've ever engaged in seemed primarily unobstructed. Even the off-topic responses I've seen and made have been tolerated. I suppose one would have to post something really objectionable or off-topic to be censored.

[Fiddler]

Thank you Dixiecritter for deleting such a tasteless post. Since we can also post pictures on WB Would that have been the next step?

[dixicritter]

Mission Statement can be found here... http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3654

[kyhipo]

I agree with longshank . The discussions topics are posted and you don't have to go on those posts, why can't people talk about what they want?You and longshank need to take a hike:banana ky

[Lone Wolf]

Mission Statement can be found here... http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3654
Just ban these two.

[MOWGLI]

Well, when you go on the women's forum and act like a neanderthal, you should expect to be censored. If (as a male) you post vulgar sexual remarks on this website that is visited by women and kids, you should expect to be censored. The first time Longquest was censored involved a veiled threat in response to one of my posts. That kind of BS is not and should not be tolerated.

Frankly, White Blaze is an extremely tolerant place. You have to pretty much go out of your way to be a jerk to get censored here. In other words, it has nothing to do with being Conservative, Libertarian or Liberal. It has everything to do with being decent and respectful.

[hikerjohnd]

Because this is a hiking site, not a sex education site. We have minors that participate or at the very least read this site to gain hiking information. Again if you don't like the way WB is run you may leave at any time. However, if you are interested in discussing hiking/camping/backpacking or the trail in general the by all means you are welcome to do so. Again, thank you in advance for your co-operation.

First, I have no idea what sparked this - I saw a thread about sex on the trail, but as a happily married man, I saw it didn't concern me so I skipped over it. You are right, this is a hiking site, and like it or not, adults go out on the trail and ocassionally adult things happen. Having a forum to discuss that seems reasonable. This site is member supported - therefore the members should be left to their own discresion about what they wish to discuss. As to the availibility of those discussions, you are absolutly right, there are minors who visit here. Perhaps a seperate forum, restricted by age, is in order. As I recall, this site has the ability to restoric forums.

Again, I do not know what sparked this discussion, but WB has always seemed to meet the needs of its members - perhaps rather than a knee jerk reaction, this need should be examined.

[Tha Wookie]

Conservatism is a big problem... so is liberalism. All the liberals are conservative and the conservatives are liberal.

Its a bigger mess than a jack-knifed water buffalo.

And equally confusing. :confused:

The only time I remember being censored was when I said I was putting Minnesota Smith on my ignore list. I'm not sure why it was deleted.

[dixicritter]

Yes, I am aware that i can leave if I don't like it. The obvious implication is that you would prefer if I did. Thank YOU in advance for discontinueing your passive-aggressive remarks.

Longshanks asked WHY you are cesuring him, he did not ask you for his options


I said nothing to indicate that I have an opinion either way. As a Moderator / Assistant Administrator on this site I wouldn't ask anyone to leave. My statements were to explain why certain posts got deleted or moved. As you may or may not know there are forums on WB that you must subscribe to (free of charge) to be able to see them or post to them. You can find said forums under the UserCP and then by clicking on Group Memberships.

[longshank]

First, I have no idea what sparked this - I saw a thread about sex on the trail, but as a happily married man, I saw it didn't concern me so I skipped over it. You are right, this is a hiking site, and like it or not, adults go out on the trail and ocassionally adult things happen. Having a forum to discuss that seems reasonable. This site is member supported - therefore the members should be left to their own discresion about what they wish to discuss. As to the availibility of those discussions, you are absolutly right, there are minors who visit here. Perhaps a seperate forum, restricted by age, is in order. As I recall, this site has the ability to restoric forums.

Again, I do not know what sparked this discussion, but WB has always seemed to meet the needs of its members - perhaps rather than a knee jerk reaction, this need should be examined.
Thank you.

[nerdishgrrl]

I didn't get to read the whole sex on the at thread, b/c it vanished while i was in the middle of reading it, but I feel that Longshanks has a point. I didn't see anything "deviant" about it. Its just asking a question about a part of everyday life....even on the trail. I feel like the thread shouldn't have been deleted, but maybe warned. I don't know, I always thought Whiteblaze was a great place to exchange information freely, unlike other hiking sites I've been to.

[longshank]

Well, when you go on the women's forum and act like a neanderthal, you should expect to be censored. If (as a male) you post vulgar sexual remarks on this website that is visited by women and kids, you should expect to be censored. The first time Longquest was censored involved a veiled threat in response to one of my posts. That kind of BS is not and should not be tolerated.

Frankly, White Blaze is an extremely tolerant place. You have to pretty much go out of your way to be a jerk to get censored here. In other words, it has nothing to do with being Conservative, Libertarian or Liberal. It has everything to do with being decent and respectful.
A veiled threat?! Gimmie a break.

[KirkMcquest]

Just ban these two.

This is a perfect example of something that might be stricken from the record,there is no intelligent discussion here. It is vulgar and belligerent why isn't this stopped. I happen to know that Lwolf gets away with this all the time

[dixicritter]

I didn't get to read the whole sex on the at thread, b/c it vanished while i was in the middle of reading it, but I feel that Longshanks has a point. I didn't see anything "deviant" about it. Its just asking a question about a part of everyday life....even on the trail. I feel like the thread shouldn't have been deleted, but maybe warned. I don't know, I always thought Whiteblaze was a great place to exchange information freely, unlike other hiking sites I've been to.

I don't know what thread y'all are talking about "sex on the at"? The only thread that I have seen recently on a similar topic was not deleted but moved to one of the forums I mentioned in my last post (the Sensitive Trail Subjects Forum).

[MOWGLI]

Let me refresh your memory. I said something like "ignore the troll, even if he lives under the 59th street bridge" :D, to which you responded something like, "yeah, cause he might beat the hell out of you." That kind of tone is the reason why your first post was deleted.

[dixicritter]

This is a perfect example of something that might be stricken from the record,there is no intelligent discussion here. It is vulgar and belligerent why isn't this stopped. I happen to know that Lwolf gets away with this all the time

I was in the middle of posting, taken care of.

[hikerjohnd]

the Sensitive Trail Subjects Forum.

Where is this located? I didn't even know this existed...

[Lone Wolf]

This is a perfect example of something that might be stricken from the record,there is no intelligent discussion here. It is vulgar and belligerent why isn't this stopped. I happen to know that Lwolf gets away with this all the time
Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it. A foreskin is is a biological term.:)

[dixicritter]

Where is this located? I didn't even know this existed...

See my post #31 for instructions on where to find this and other forums on WB that are not automatically visible to everyone. :)

[longshank]

I said nothing to indicate that I have an opinion either way. As a Moderator / Assistant Administrator on this site I wouldn't ask anyone to leave. My statements were to explain why certain posts got deleted or moved. As you may or may not know there are forums on WB that you must subscribe to (free of charge) to be able to see them or post to them. You can find said forums under the UserCP and then by clicking on Group Memberships.
I don't believe there to be any such forum. I think you are lying outright. Prove me wrong, please.

[CaptChaos]

Well, I am quite new to WhiteBlaze but I have not felt at all that I fear for my postings being reviewed and deleted. This website has input from a wide range of people and experiences and not all of us are going to play well all of the time.

I have to give WhiteBlaze credit here and point out that they do have a mission statement and it seems pretty valid to me. If the mission of this website does not fit into your life then I am sure that there are other sites that will do just fine.

I enjoy WhiteBlaze and the ideas and views expressed both positive and negative. By taking all of it in I feel that I am more able to come to my own conclusion better. Not being able to backpack as much as I would like I find WhiteBlaze a way to stay connected to some degree with a sport that I enjoy. And sometimes, I feel that I do have something to offer even with my limited experience.

[ed bell]

I don't believe there to be any such forum. I think you are lying outright. Prove me wrong, please.

Follow the directions, its there.

[longshank]

Follow the directions, its there.
My thread, however, is not.

[ed bell]

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle. Post away Shank.

[Seeker]

i've been disagreed with, sometimes rather hotly, by others, but that's fine... i've seen a few posts/comments i thought were inappropriate to a forum occassionally visited by minors, but again, that's ok... i'm very happy with the way the site is run, and have never felt 'censored' by the administrators. the few 'trolls' here generally get rooted out by the members and go elsewhere, at least for awhile... there are some 'hard' personalities too, folks who like to argue for arguments sake... nothing much wrong with that either. i like to discuss things, but not quite to the point of being confrontational. what i want from this site is to learn from the experience of others. i get that. the trolls don't bother me enough to cause me to want anything 'censored'.... if it finally gets to the point where the administrators feel they must step in and/or delete a post, it's always been past the point where i found it offensive, so i think their policy is actually quite liberal... guess it all depends on where you stand.

as for me, i'll stand over here, content with the way things are.

[ed bell]

My thread, however, is not.
Our moderator is nice enough to be filling in for SGT. Rock, who is in Iraq. Be patient or Personal message her about it.

[KirkMcquest]

I also followed the instructions and find that the post isn't there. This is either a proposterous lie or some error on dixiechics part. I would like to point out that when the topic disappeared no explanantion or instructions were given. This will not be swept under the rug

[ed bell]

I think you are lying outright.

Just a friendly suggestion, but you may want to apologize to Dixicritter for that.:cool:

[Footslogger]

This will not be swept under the rug
==================================
Well ...you could always just get fed up and refuse to post here any more.

'Slogger

[Ender]

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH....

Don't you have something better to get in a twist about? It's a moderated board, as it should be. Given your attitude here, I'm not at all surprised that you were moderated. Possibly some practice with self-moderation is in order.

[dixicritter]

The thread I mentioned moving wasn't longshanks thread. I do not know what happened to it, and FYI I am not the only one that moves and/or deletes posts/threads on this site. I gave you the resources to try and find it, if it's not there then you might try asking attroll if he knows where it went.

[wacocelt]

I also followed the instructions and find that the post isn't there. This is either a proposterous lie or some error on dixiechics part. I would like to point out that when the topic disappeared no explanantion or instructions were given. This will not be swept under the rug

This will not be swept under the rug


Oh thats rich. I almost hope the thread is reposted, just so that everyone else can read your post on it and see just exactly how much you need to be banned, encarserated or something else even more appropriate.

[AbeHikes]

This is either a proposterous lie

Preposterous! Preposterous, I tell you! Hrrmph! Why, the very idea! The shenanigans and tomfoolery that go on here... I never! Someone will receive a strongly-worded communication over this!

Geez.

A little dramatic, aren't we?

[Ender]

Preposterous! Preposterous, I tell you! Hrrmph! Why, the very idea! The shenanigans and tomfoolery that go on here... I never! Someone will receive a strongly-worded communication over this!

Geez.

A little dramatic, aren't we?

:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap

Seriously...

(and a remarkably funny post by-the-by!!!)

[dixicritter]

Preposterous! Preposterous, I tell you! Hrrmph! Why, the very idea! The shenanigans and tomfoolery that go on here... I never! Someone will receive a strongly-worded communication over this!

Geez.

A little dramatic, aren't we?

I'm shakin' in me boots......

Wait...

I'm not wearing any... :jump

[Ender]

Here's something a little more worthwhile to get all afluster over...

http://www.genocidewatch.org/SudanDarfurGenocideEmergency.htm
http://www.fema.gov/

Just a little more important than your bruised ego...

[Jack Tarlin]

A few quick words:

Some people here are getting WAY out of line. As someone has already pointed out, Dixiecritter has very graciously been helping out here on WB.....while her husband is serving his country overseas. I assure you she has more important things to do than waste time over petty squabbles and nonsense here. Every minute she spends on Internet bull**** is a minute she's not spending with her kids, or corresponding with Rock, or helping out other soldier's families, etc. Instead of people carping about her contributions here, how about thanking her instead, OK?

Anyone that has a problem with the way this site is administered can either start their own site, stop posting, or jump off a cliff.

This is NOT the time or place to be whining about how the site is run.

And incidentally, the way the site is being run is just fine, and this includes the very few times that objectionable or worthless comments are quite rightly consigned to the trash.

[AbeHikes]

I just can't help it, but I'm picturing Groucho Marx playing Captain Spalding in "Animal Crackers".




"If you're insulted, you can leave in a taxi. If that's not fast enough, you can leave in a huff. If that's too fast, you can leave in a minute and a huff."


... but that's from "Duck Soup".

[sherrill]

Once again, Jack nails it.

[Fiddler]

The thread I mentioned moving wasn't longshanks thread. I do not know what happened to it, and FYI I am not the only one that moves and/or deletes posts/threads on this site. I gave you the resources to try and find it, if it's not there then you might try asking attroll if he knows where it went.

I, for one, could care less where it went. At least it's not here, in the wide open, for my grandkids to see.

[attroll]

I don't think everyone saw this thread and I think they are confusing the thread with another one. This thread was titled Getting laid on the AT... Like Dixicritter said if you want to talk about something like that then take it to an adult site. This is a hiking site. If you think you going hiking just to try and get laid then you not on this web site for the right reasons. To clear this up I deleted this thread not Dixicritter. To answer someone else's question about banning this user. They are very, very close to it happening. Evidently they don't have a real life if that have to try and come here and start things of that nature.

[hammock engineer]

I agree. In places like this, your comments should be kept PG. You wouldn't (I hope) your kids to read something off color, so you should respect other's wishes that their kids do not.

AT Troll/dixie thanks for the hard work.

[Singe03]

I participate in alot of forums with widely differing rules on what is acceptable content. Arguements about censorship seem to arise on a regular basis on alot of them and I just want to make one point.

Whiteblaze is not a public forum, it is a private forum that Leif and Zipdrive make available to the public as a service to the AT community. While they do solicit donations to help bear the cost of hosting and bandwidth, donations are optional and it is still ultimately, their board and they have a right to make whatever rules regarding acceptable content they want.

The community has the right to not frequent a board with rules or content they find unacceptable, no one holds a gun to anyone's head and forces them to post or read here. I'd argue that no one donates to a board where they find the rules or content unacceptable.

The fact is that the popularity of a board is totally dictated by the quality of information and the desire of people to frequent it. The volume of traffic on this board and the fact that people do donate would indicate that the rules and moderation are just fine.

[the goat]

Whiteblaze is not a public forum, it is a private forum that Leif and Zipdrive make available to the public as a service to the AT community. While....

are you talking about trailforums???

[Lone Wolf]

I participate in alot of forums with widely differing rules on what is acceptable content. Arguements about censorship seem to arise on a regular basis on alot of them and I just want to make one point.

Whiteblaze is not a public forum, it is a private forum that Leif and Zipdrive make available to the public as a service to the AT community. While they do solicit donations to help bear the cost of hosting and bandwidth, donations are optional and it is still ultimately, their board and they have a right to make whatever rules regarding acceptable content they want.

The community has the right to not frequent a board with rules or content they find unacceptable, no one holds a gun to anyone's head and forces them to post or read here. I'd argue that no one donates to a board where they find the rules or content unacceptable.

The fact is that the popularity of a board is totally dictated by the quality of information and the desire of people to frequent it. The volume of traffic on this board and the fact that people do donate would indicate that the rules and moderation are just fine.
Wrong site. Leif and Zip are Trailjournals.com

[TN_Hiker]

Jack stated it perfectly.....With that said...THANK YOU Dixiecritter and sorry you had to put up w/ the BS. Not to overlook anyone (add kissing sound here) thanks for your efforts as well attroll. This is without a doubt one of the best hiking resource on the web

[Stoker53]

This thread is hillarious. I even suspect collusion or at the very least "team trolling". Longshank and KirkMcquest are both from NY. A coincidence? I think not.

Bet they are having a IM laughfest about responses to this thread. Why else would they get sooo torqued about a thread getting moved /deleted. The motive is simply to stir $hit up and sit back and enjoy the show.

Never feed a troll.

LMAO

[Ender]

This thread is hillarious. I even suspect collusion or at the very least "team trolling". Longshank and KirkMcquest are both from NY. A coincidence? I think not.

Hey, I live in NYC right now... they're giving New Yorkers a bad name (not that it's that hard really). I swear though, we're not all like that. :rolleyes:

[Footslogger]

Very true. You don't need to be a psychologist to recognize that they have an unhealthy need for attention. Everytime this dynamic duo logs on and stirrs the ashes they get the attention they seek.

Takes 2 (or more) to have a discussion or argument. Don't dignify their posts with responses and they will lose interest.

'Slogger

[drsukie]

Preposterous! Preposterous, I tell you! Hrrmph! Why, the very idea! The shenanigans and tomfoolery that go on here... I never! Someone will receive a strongly-worded communication over this!

Geez.

A little dramatic, aren't we?

I am furrowing my eyebrows in disapproval as I type this, and muttering "tsk, tsk" in my apoplexy....I mean it now.... :bse Sue

[Tha Wookie]

This thread is hillarious. I even suspect collusion or at the very least "team trolling". Longshank and KirkMcquest are both from NY. A coincidence? I think not.



THEY? It's one person. So obvious.

What's also obvious is that they really DO need to get laid.

But like attroll said: This ain't the place!

This site is the Anti-lay!

[Gray Blazer]

Jack stated it perfectly.....With that said...THANK YOU Dixiecritter and sorry you had to put up w/ the BS. Not to overlook anyone (add kissing sound here) thanks for your efforts as well attroll. This is without a doubt one of the best hiking resource on the web

AMEN!!!!!!

[peter_pan]

Thank you to DixieCritter, Sgt Rock and AT Troll for a great site...

Thank you for moving the threads that get mean and off topic to a members only forum.... Thank you for the courage and good judgement to delete the threads and posts that are clearly beyond the mission of WB... These actions and the well intended on topic threads and posts are what keep WB friendly, open and welcoming to the ever growing nunber of folk who share a mutual interest in hiking and the AT... I think you are showing great judgement and more than appropriate tolerence to let folk have on topic, non-attacking freedom of expression...

Keep up the good work.

Pan

[Alligator]

THEY? It's one person. So obvious.


High probability given that they usually log out at the exact same time. 13:26 today.

[MOWGLI]

High probability given that they usually log out at the exact same time. 13:26 today.

Yup -figured that out weeks ago. Multiple personality disorder for certain.

[Singe03]

Wrong site. Leif and Zip are Trailjournals.com

Dunno what the hell I was thinking... I'd try to ninja edit and slink out quietly but then folks would wonder what the rest of the responses were about. My apologies.

[Moxie00]

This site is awesome. Dixi, Troll, Rock, you are the best. In another life years ago I was on a site that you could get tossed off for simply expressing an opinion different than the administrator. I forget his name, Wingsomething or Stinkfoot but Whiteblaze is like a breath of fresh air. Grey worn out old trail veterans and newbes exchange ideas and argue and fight and no one gets mad, or stays mad long. Many of us know each other and have hiked together or meet at gatherings. I have only seen very rare cases where a subject gets moved to a members only site and that is not censorship, just good judgement. It is still available to those that want to see it, Today a subject came up that was more suited to a site frequented by people who would be more comfortable with porn or voyeurism than hiking and Troll deleted it. Big deal, first time I've ever seen it happen and in this case I approve. There are plenty of sites for small mimds and gutter thoughts and Whiteblaze should never be one of them.
:dance

[Footslogger]

[quote=Moxie00]Grey worn out old trail veterans
===========================================
Hey now ...I resemble that statement !! ...all except for the "worn out" part.

'Slogger

[dizzyT]

Never seen so many different spellings for scentsoar.

Is anyone thinking of bypassing New York to protest longshanks comments. Just kidding......referring to my mistake of a thread.

Jack is right. There is no place for that here. That stuff takes away from the credibility of a good site and well intentioned hikers. Not to mention making women uncomfortable on the trail

[Ridge]

Never seen so many different spellings for scentsoar .... \

Sometimes you can edit sometimes you can't, I realized my electronic spelling was wrong as soon as I pressed the submit button, couldn't edit.

[saimyoji]

Perhaps longshanks and McQuest have served to remind us that there are 'alterior motive' hikers out there. I didn't see his last post on that thread, but from the reaction it sounds like women ought to do well to protect themselves from that type of behavior.

BTW: There are other hiking forums that do have sex-on-the-trail related content. It seems to me that if you can't find what you want here, trying going over there. ;)

Thanks Dixie/Troll for all your hard work. Any word from Rock lately?

[stupe]

I've never had anything of mine censored, and I've posted some pretty insulting stuff.
I think sex topics might be treated differently because they can bring unwanted attention to a web site. I don't know how the moderators work, but I'm sure somebody isn't sitting in a room reading everything as it's posted. If somebody from NAMBLA posted obscene words or graphics, it might not get dumped until it triggered an interest from the authorities.
If you read the "political" threads, I think you'll see that the moderators are most open minded.

[stupe]

A foreskin is is a biological term.:)
Depends on the context.

[dixicritter]

Thanks Dixie/Troll for all your hard work. Any word from Rock lately?

No problem. He's doing well, just hasn't had the time to log on lately with the schedule they have him on right now. Thanks for asking.

[Internegator]

Preposterous! Preposterous, I tell you! Hrrmph! Why, the very idea! The shenanigans and tomfoolery that go on here... I never! Someone will receive a strongly-worded communication over this!

Geez.

A little dramatic, aren't we?

http://www.gargaro.com/MaRvInWaVs/goody.wav

[Skidsteer]

The one time I have had a post deleted/sensored I did the dance of joy when I discovered it! I had typed a humorous response to a post on the women's forum by another man. I deemed the post by this man to be, ahem, unwise so to speak. Since his post was deleted, my posts would not have made sense if they remained. Don't know if it was Dixiecritter or Attroll and don't care; but whichever one it was, thanks for averting a sure enough flame war!

[The Desperado]

Thanks for your deletion, thanks for the job you do while Sgt Rock is doing his duty & thank god all that seems to be over.........

[Programbo]

Ugh..Speed records..Sex chat..Tattoo`s..Internet access points...HYOH...I`m getting more and more concerned about what the trial has become..A 2000+ mile Spring Break?

[rainmaker]

Ditto all the positive stuff said about Whiteblaze. This community does not need posters who do not respect basic rules of decorum and respect. BTW, is it just me or do the assumed trailnames appear just a little odd? Longshanks I believe was the nickname of the English butcherer of William Wallace the Braveheart, Edward I. Kirk McQuest must be his imaginary Highlands traitor and accomplice. Free Scotland.

[AbeHikes]

Groucho:

I sent the club a wire stating, "Please accept my resignation. I don't want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member."

(WhiteBlaze?)

Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.

I don't have a photograph, but you can have my footprints. They're upstairs in my socks.

and the one that got this all started...

Women should be obscene and not heard.

http://www.textfiles.com/art/groucho.art

[Tinker]

Longshanks, It isn't a conservative idea to make the decision that casual sex shouldn't be the topic of conversation on a public forum. To me, it's just common decency. As others have said, kids and young people have access to the information on this forum. Whiteblaze needs to take the high ground, morally.

[bfitz]

Never been deleted...always thought that whiteblaze is well moderated. I imagine you'd have to be quite out of line to warrant censorship on this site. Certainly the accusation that political statements are censored is false.

[stupe]

Ugh..Speed records..Sex chat..Tattoo`s..Internet access points...HYOH...I`m getting more and more concerned about what the trial has become..A 2000+ mile Spring Break?
Well, they did name the mountain at the start of the trail after Jerry Springer, didn't they?

[Tha Wookie]

Never been deleted...always thought that whiteblaze is well moderated. I imagine you'd have to be quite out of line to warrant censorship on this site. Certainly the accusation that political statements are censored is false.

Very true. The moderators not only do an excellent job, but they are rather good examples of how we should tolerate each other.

thanks Attroll, Rock, and Dixiecritter!

[sliderule]

Never seen so many different spellings for scentsoar.



Are you saying that sensor, censor and censure don't all mean the same thing?

Perhaps we should censure anyone who uses a sensor to censor.

[dizzyT]

perhaps.....perhaps......perhaps..

oh sorry..Just got done watching coupling.

[Nightwalker]

This site is the Anti-lay!
Hey! His trial just started yesterday...

[Nightwalker]

The one time I have had a post deleted/sensored I did the dance of joy when I discovered it! I had typed a humorous response to a post on the women's forum by another man. I deemed the post by this man to be, ahem, unwise so to speak. Since his post was deleted, my posts would not have made sense if they remained. Don't know if it was Dixiecritter or Attroll and don't care; but whichever one it was, thanks for averting a sure enough flame war!
One time I used the word f'ing in a post, with three stars in the middle instead of the tickmark. Troll changed it to freaking. As many times as I've lost my cool, that's the only censoring, and I think he only did it because he thought that I hadn't self-censored and put in my own asterisks.

You've gotta work to get censored here, but it's doable. Pretty dumb, though, speaking from experience...

[Rain Man]

One time I used the word f'ing in a post, with three stars in the middle instead of the tickmark. Troll changed it to freaking. ... You've gotta work to get censored here, but it's doable. Pretty dumb, though, speaking from experience...

Putting stars, dashes, or other marks inside profane words doesn't change them into acceptable words. They are still intended as profane and are still unacceptable in polite company. I often report posts that contain language I wouldn't want children subjected to, as this is a public site. I don't go back to double-check, but hope the moderators delete the posts or change the word.

There are elegant ways to express disdain. Profanity is not one of those elegant ways. It's more like illiteracy, except voluntary and unacceptable in public.

Probably a good thing I'm not a moderator, or some of the potty-mouths might be outright banned by now.

Rain:sunMan

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[dixicritter]

Actually there are certain words that have been put on a "filter" list, so the software automatically puts those *'s in. We don't have to do a thing with that.

[longshank]

Yup -figured that out weeks ago. Multiple personality disorder for certain.
I see there's been a great deal of chatter while we've been away. If any of you still have problems accepting the fact that we are two different people, you are welcome to engage us in a conference call and we can put this to rest once and for all, genius.

[longshank]

I don't have time to jump back into the fray just now, but I'll be back to share my feelings with the adoring public soon enough.

[Lion King]

very nasty response to longshanks, but thats no surprise from you. maybe you should be censured

I bet you guys are the smae idiot.

You dont know LW. If you did, you wouldnt be quite as mouthy.

Or Wacocelt for that matter...or a few others here for that matter.

Free speech is important, but if it strays from Trail too much or if it is stupidity and insulting, whats the point?

[Lion King]

I bet you guys are the smae idiot.

You dont know LW. If you did, you wouldnt be quite as mouthy.

Or Wacocelt for that matter...or a few others here for that matter.

Free speech is important, but if it strays from Trail too much or if it is stupidity and insulting, whats the point?

How funny...I didnt read all the posts and OTHERS KNOW you are the same person..LOL!

[AbeHikes]

you are welcome to engage us in a conference call and we can put this to rest once and for all, genius.

Sure. Have your assistant call our assistant to book a time. 2005 budget true-ups are due this week so we'll have to shoot for next. Of course, we'll need a project plan outlining critical path with a list of tasks, estimated durations, prioritites, milestones, resources, predecessors, constraints, WBS... We have to project an ROI with high percentages. We better order lunch in. I'lll have a turkey and cheese on wheat, mustard only.

We'll have to work late on this one.

[Moxie00]

How funny...I didnt read all the posts and OTHERS KNOW you are the same person..LOL!
I bet not many realize Baltimore Jack, Lion King and Lone Wolf are all the same person, a middle aged spinster from Honolulu who hasn't been off the island since the Nixon administration.

[Stoker53]

I see there's been a great deal of chatter while we've been away. If any of you still have problems accepting the fact that we are two different people, you are welcome to engage us in a conference call and we can put this to rest once and for all, genius.


I suspect they are conjoined twins.:bse

[Rainman]

Putting stars, dashes, or other marks inside profane words doesn't change them into acceptable words. They are still intended as profane and are still unacceptable in polite company. I often report posts that contain language I wouldn't want children subjected to, as this is a public site. I don't go back to double-check, but hope the moderators delete the posts or change the word.

There are elegant ways to express disdain. Profanity is not one of those elegant ways. It's more like illiteracy, except voluntary and unacceptable in public.

Probably a good thing I'm not a moderator, or some of the potty-mouths might be outright banned by now.

Rain:sunMan

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Well said Rain Man. BTW, I love the :sun in the middle of your user name. They'll never confuse us again now. Not that I could ever be you, or should we have a conference call to confirm that - LOL.

I have never been censored. But, I have been censured. I think it was the day I asked Troll to change my user name. Troll didn't mind and neither did Rain Man. Just a few people who got confused between a middle aged lawyer from Tennessee and a middle aged lawyer from Florida.

ATTroll, Dixiecritter, and Sgt Rock - thank you very much and keep up the good work.

[Rain Man]

Well said Rain Man. BTW, I love the :sun in the middle of your user name. They'll never confuse us again now. ...

Well, actually I do get a lot of replies to "rainman." I just reply to them anyway. Hope you don't mind! LOL

Somebody on here tried to insult me one day for being a litigator. I reckon they don't know any better, that some lawyers never set foot in a courtroom!

I do, however, set foot on the AT from time to time. :)

Rain:sunMan

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[KirkMcquest]

I bet not many realize Baltimore Jack, Lion King and Lone Wolf are all the same person, a middle aged spinster from Honolulu who hasn't been off the island since the Nixon administration.

They say he who smelt it, dealt it.

The truth is that me and longshanks are NOT the same person. He is, however, a friend of mine who I recommended the site to.

[KirkMcquest]

Perhaps longshanks and McQuest have served to remind us that there are 'alterior motive' hikers out there. I didn't see his last post on that thread, but from the reaction it sounds like women ought to do well to protect themselves from that type of behavior.

You didn't see his last post, yet you have an opinion

[wacocelt]

You didn't see his last post, yet you have an opinion


He's more than likely speaking about my reaction to YOUR last post in the thread which, I guarantee you, had more people have read you'de be banned right now. You should stop while you're ahead.

[KirkMcquest]

He's more than likely speaking about my reaction to YOUR last post in the thread which, I guarantee you, had more people have read you'de be banned right now. You should stop while you're ahead.

I don't know what you're talking about. I related a story regarding the topic of the thread. If you are a prude, and ashamed of your sexuality, then why did you log on to a thread labeled 'getting laid on the at'

[generoll]

geeez guys, can we just ignore those two/that guy, whatever or whoever he/she/they are? i mean has anything been said by he/she/it/ that was worth all this response?

[KirkMcquest]

geeez guys, can we just ignore those two/that guy, whatever or whoever he/she/they are? i mean has anything been said by he/she/it/ that was worth all this response?

Your right! I'll begin ignoring those/that guy immediately:-?

[Frosty]

Are you saying that sensor, censor and censure don't all mean the same thing?

Perhaps we should censure anyone who uses a sensor to censor.Sounds sensi-ble to me!

[wacocelt]

I don't know what you're talking about. I related a story regarding the topic of the thread. If you are a prude, and ashamed of your sexuality, then why did you log on to a thread labeled 'getting laid on the at'


You related a story which, had you told the same in a court of law, would have gotten you a few years in jail.

I logged into the thread to make it know that the topic is absolutely not needed on this site. You can try and take cheap shots at my morales and sexuality all you like, it doesn't change the fact that you and your (imaginary?)friend are deviants and should be banned. Perhaps we can meet sometime and discuss these matters, I think that perhaps you'de be a bit more civil in person.

[KirkMcquest]

You related a story which, had you told the same in a court of law, would have gotten you a few years in jail.

I logged into the thread to make it know that the topic is absolutely not needed on this site. You can try and take cheap shots at my morales and sexuality all you like, it doesn't change the fact that you and your (imaginary?)friend are deviants and should be banned. Perhaps we can meet sometime and discuss these matters, I think that perhaps you'de be a bit more civil in person.

A. No I would not have gotten anytime in jail for engaging in consensual relations with an adult

b. Me and my 'imaginary friend' ( I assume you mean longshanks), only seem like deviants if your repressed and immature.
C. I would be glad to meet with you, where we could discuss your block-headedness in detail.

[Frosty]

Have there been and longshanks/mcquest posts dealing with hiking or the AT? Is there any purpose to these posts other than to disrupt discussions here at Whiteblaze?

I am not saying argument is bad - I enjoy lots of discussion here, even some of the more heated discussions, but they are about the AT, hiking, hiking philosophy, etc. Even the politicial rants are by members who generally contribute to meaningful hiking talk.

I cannot see that this person has the intent to do anything but try to insult people and get a rise out of others. I have seen no intention of participating in hiking forums at all.

Moderation is not censorship. A good moderator ensures that the vision and mission of the website is the primary goal, and takes action to ensure that mission is met, and vision realized.

No decison is a decision, and makes its own statement.

I know that everyone doesn't make a good first impression. Some people, myself included, can be real dinks at first and later turn out to be reasonably okay. Maybe I missed posts by this guy that showed something other than pre-adolescent name-calling. If so, I apologize. If not, modeators please consider giving them an old-fashioned "time-out."

[dixicritter]

Actually in spite of his rantings in this thread Mr. Mcquest has posted to some hiking related threads very nicely. Mr. Longshanks however hasn't. And yes I did my research before putting myself back into their sights to be verbally fired upon again.

Having said that I believe it's time to move on from this thread and get back to the topic of hiking elsewhere on the boards. Thank you ALL for your co-operation.

[Stix]

I’ve talked to wingfoot and he encourages such discussions. Yep, if I were you I would go over and drop those bombs over at trailplace. Hell ole wingding himself just might give you a signed copy of the Handbook.<o:p></o:p>

[longshank]

Sure. Have your assistant call our assistant to book a time. 2005 budget true-ups are due this week so we'll have to shoot for next. Of course, we'll need a project plan outlining critical path with a list of tasks, estimated durations, prioritites, milestones, resources, predecessors, constraints, WBS... We have to project an ROI with high percentages. We better order lunch in. I'lll have a turkey and cheese on wheat, mustard only.

We'll have to work late on this one.
Sounds good.

[longshank]

Actually in spite of his rantings in this thread Mr. Mcquest has posted to some hiking related threads very nicely. Mr. Longshanks however hasn't. And yes I did my research before putting myself back into their sights to be verbally fired upon again.

Having said that I believe it's time to move on from this thread and get back to the topic of hiking elsewhere on the boards. Thank you ALL for your co-operation.
That's where you're wrong, Dix. I've responded to a a few threads and staeted one questioning pro's/con's of hammoks vs. bivvy's. Your stament is farcical. Period.

[Ender]

That's where you're wrong, Dix. I've responded to a a few threads and staeted one questioning pro's/con's of hammoks vs. bivvy's. Your stament is farcical. Period.

Wow, you're a real SOB, ain't ya?

Couldn't just say, "sorry but I did post a couple times relating to hammocks" and leave it at that. Nope... had to be an (insert preferred naughty word here) about it.

Seriously dude. Lighten up a bit. It'll save you a heart attack before the age of 40.

Period. (see how much cooler saying that makes me sound?)

[tiamalle]

L Wolf and BJ talk about stirring the pot!this one got out his themometer.I bet he's bustin up pissin people off.:jump :jump :jump :jump :jump :jump :jump

[Lone Wolf]

L Wolf and BJ talk about stirring the pot!this one got out his themometer.I bet he's bustin up pissin people off.:jump :jump :jump :jump :jump :jump :jump
Longstockings is just a cupcake.:D

[longshank]

Wow, you're a real SOB, ain't ya?

Couldn't just say, "sorry but I did post a couple times relating to hammocks" and leave it at that. Nope... had to be an (insert preferred naughty word here) about it.

Seriously dude. Lighten up a bit. It'll save you a heart attack before the age of 40.

Period. (see how much cooler saying that makes me sound?)
No, I don't see how much cooler you are, quite the contrary. You are more rude and abrasive than I could ever hope to be. The differnce is that I don't look for newbies asking innocent questions to serve as whipping posts. I go after full-grown opponents.

[longshank]

No, I don't see how much cooler you are, quite the contrary. You are more rude and abrasive than I could ever hope to be. The differnce is that I don't look for newbies asking innocent questions to serve as whipping posts. I go after full-grown opponents.
Sorry, I got you confused with wolf. Didn't mean you.

[KirkMcquest]

here, here!!

[longshank]

Sorry, I got you confused with wolf. Didn't mean you.
I should've realized that Wolf is incapable of such an eloquent and thought-out reply.

[longshank]

Wow, you're a real SOB, ain't ya?

Couldn't just say, "sorry but I did post a couple times relating to hammocks" and leave it at that. Nope... had to be an (insert preferred naughty word here) about it.

Seriously dude. Lighten up a bit. It'll save you a heart attack before the age of 40.

Period. (see how much cooler saying that makes me sound?)
But I still don't see how much cooler that makes you sound.

[icemanat95]

That's where you're wrong, Dix. I've responded to a a few threads and staeted one questioning pro's/con's of hammoks vs. bivvy's. Your stament is farcical. Period.

All you are doing is burning up whatever last shreds of credibility you may have had. Insulting the Admin, especially when that admin is the wife of Sgt. Rock, is just plain dumb. It may just be your rude and obnoxious New York City attitude, or maybe you are just a bonafide troll. You have been warned by ATTroll already.

[longshank]

All you are doing is burning up whatever last shreds of credibility you may have had. Insulting the Admin, especially when that admin is the wife of Sgt. Rock, is just plain dumb. It may just be your rude and obnoxious New York City attitude, or maybe you are just a bonafide troll. You have been warned by ATTroll already.
I'm not insulting anyone, I'm stating fact. I was the one who was defamed by an untrue statement, not her.

[longshank]

Longstockings is just a cupcake.:D
Hope I see you on the trail in '07, wolf.

[Ender]

OK, so I'm asking you this honestly, and without any ill will. Doesn't the fact that everyone here, everyone (at least that I've seen. If I've missed someone, please let me know) disagrees with you two on this topic, tell you something? That your attitude here is not considered appropriate by the others on this site? Doesn't the fact that everyone else is happy with the way the site is run also tell you something?

I can understand not agreeing with certain aspects of something, but the response of the community should at least lead you to a different understanding than what you already hold. And if you continue to disagree with the policies, then why would you continue to return?

Again, if I've missed anyone, let me know. And again, the question is meant honestly and without ill will.

[Stoker53]

Many years ago there was this big garbage dump in Yellowstone NP. Well we all know how much brears, black and grizzley, love garbage. The dump attracted so many bears that people started showing up in droves to watch the bears eat the garbage.

So many people showed up that the NPS built bleachers so that the people could have a nice place to sit. Even a parking lot was built.

I have it much better than these tourists of a bye-gone era. I can sit in complete comfort watching trolls getting fed. Very entertaining.:bse

[longshank]

OK, so I'm asking you this honestly, and without any ill will. Doesn't the fact that everyone here, everyone (at least that I've seen. If I've missed someone, please let me know) disagrees with you two on this topic, tell you something? That your attitude here is not considered appropriate by the others on this site? Doesn't the fact that everyone else is happy with the way the site is run also tell you something?

I can understand not agreeing with certain aspects of something, but the response of the community should at least lead you to a different understanding than what you already hold. And if you continue to disagree with the policies, then why would you continue to return?

Again, if I've missed anyone, let me know. And again, the question is meant honestly and without ill will.
Frankly, more than a few have agreed with us, and at least one member that I'm aware of has discontinued his membership to the site for the same reason. When people have an opinion that goes against the grain on this site, they are belittled by small-minded ingnorants like l.wolf and co., even made to feel stupid for their most innocent hiking questions as though they are something to be irritated by. The fact that certain antagonists seem to get by is largely due to personal friendships with moderators of this website, as has been stated to myself and McQuest directly by them. This seems unjust and makes me want to go at it with these characters. At this point you can see what ridiculous lengths these battles drag out to, countering out any claim to moral high ground or mature course of action on the part of the other participants. Mc Quest and I have been away for a week on a hike, and returned to pages and pages on this thread insulting and belittling us. We'll let it go if they will, but it never seems to happen. This is no longer a matter of difference of opinion, it's devolved to a plain old fight now. THAT'S whats going on here, and nothing else.

[Gray Blazer]

It's a North/South thing. Go back to your corners.Que Tal, Ya'll!

[Footslogger]

This is going to be my one and only post to the thread.

It's my observation that in general it's not WHAT has been said but rather HOW it has been said/worded. The posts that engender negative reaction typically do so because of the tone and language used and not the substance.

Anyway ...for what it's worth.

I'm outta here ...

'Slogger

[KirkMcquest]

It's a North/South thing. Go back to your corners.Que Tal, Ya'll!

As usual longshanks hit this nail right on the head. Maybe this is a north/south thing, since our place of residence continues to be an issue. Every time things get heated, new york takes it on the chin by these yokels.

[generoll]

seems that dixie answered his question and then gave him his options gratis. as much as you speak about censoring one would have thought that by now you would have learned how to spell it. are you perhaps talking about something entirely different? in another tongue perhaps?

[bigmac_in]

Should I not be able to? No one is twisting your arm to participate. You have a CHOICE. The small minds on their moralistic high horses are the problem, not free thinkers and speakers.

My guess is - you are NOT the free thinker you believe that you are....small minds think only of theirselves, and not of others.

By the way, I am far from a conservative, but a free thinker, I suppose....

[Moxie00]

They say he who smelt it, dealt it.

The truth is that me and longshanks are NOT the same person. He is, however, a friend of mine who I recommended the site to.
Sure, and "Brokeback Mountain" is the story of your lives...:jump

[neo]

i feel i have been able to speak my mind on this site:cool: neo

[neo]

i feel i have been able to speak my mind on this site:cool: neo

hammock hanging is the only way to fly:cool: neo

[QHShowoman]

Okay, this is getting silly.

The implication that this is a north/south thing is just ridiculous. I just moved to VA from NYC (and there is seldom a day I don't regret it) and no, not all New Yorkers are rude and obnoxious and no, what prompted the moderation of some of Longshank's/Kirk's posts had nothing to do with some leftover Civil War angst. To think otherwise is just silly.

Secondly, the constant implication that Kirk/Longshank are gay, lovers, etc. is just plain ignorant AND disrespectful AND offensive to those of us who are gay and want to participate in this community without being subjected to our sexual orientation being used as an insult. Those of you who make such comments and believe you are wise and cunning in doing so are no better than Longshank and Kirk. The master's tools shall never dismantle the master's house ...

Finally, I reported some of Longshank's posts to the moderators of this community, particulary some of those made in the Women's Forum. (In fact, Longshank, you joined this community on 1/4 and I reported you on 1/12 -- so it didn't take you very long to get yourself in trouble).

Longshank, while you may have authored a handful of constructive (or at least not directly offensive) posts in this forum, since the day you joined WhiteBlaze, you seemed intent on disrupting this BBS. You are like the obnoxious kid in class who cannot seem to keep his mouth shut for five minutes and digs himself deeper and deeper into a hole each time he speaks. Some of your posts in the women-specific threads were downright vulgar (and I am no Mother Theresa ... it takes a LOT to raise my eyebrows) and detrimental to creating a supportive, non-threatening space in which female hikers could raise valid questions and concerns about hiking the AT. The last thing a nervous female hiker wants to read is about some schmuck wanting to instill mandatory bikini wax checks along the AT. Funny? Perhaps in the correct context it is, but you can't seem to understand that there is a time and a place for everything.

I suggest that you discontinue this ludicrous anti-censorship crusade and instead, think about what you are writing a little longer before you post. When there is an interesting thread going on, don't disrupt it with immature comments and bathroom humor -- contribute constructively as you have in other threads. Learning to think before you speak (or write) will only serve you well when interacting with others on the trail, if you even make it to the trailhead.

[gargamel]

........

Well said. Hats of.

[Mags]

Maybe this is a north/south thing, since our place of residence continues to be an issue.
..as Footslogger and I look on from the Rockies. :)

Think the west pretty much sat out the US Civil War anyway.

Back to lurking on this thread...

(just a joke folks..nothing to see here. Carry on!)

[icemanat95]

I suspect that there are less than ten or twenty people who have ever been members of this site, who have been banned or have left because they felt that the policies here were too stringent.

I've had some rip-roaring arguments online with some folks here and no-one has had as much of a hissy fit over it as these two guys. Which is why I suspect they'll never wind up on a thru-hike because they lack the self-control and mental endurance to suck it up and drive on. They'd rather whine about the perceived injustices against them and drag everyone else down around them. Couple of never-will-be's looking for excuses.

[dixicritter]

That's where you're wrong, Dix. I've responded to a a few threads and staeted one questioning pro's/con's of hammoks vs. bivvy's. Your stament is farcical. Period.

OK, going back and looking through ALL 129 of your posts you have made 19 posts that pertain to hiking that were actually made in a civilized manner. Sorry for my misstatement, I was wrong. I should've looked further.

[dizzyT]

Trust me longshank.......I think there a lot of people here that hope they meet up with you on the trail.

[dixicritter]

This thread has long surpassed it's usefulness or the lack there of (whichever side of the camp you, the reader, are on). The policies of WhiteBlaze are in effect for a reason and this thread will not change those policies. ALL administrators and moderators on this site are expected to treat ALL members with the same respect, and we do. I personally have edited some of L. Wolf's posts for vulgarity, among others (not trying to single out L. Wolf as the only one here).

This site is viewed by Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts and probably Girl Scouts as well as other minors (two of which live in MY house). Therefore we (the administrators) strive to keep WhiteBlaze at a PG rating at the highest. We aren't asking for a G rating, just keep the adult humor where it belongs, on adult sites. I appreciate a good adult joke as well as the next person, in the RIGHT company.

Making this out to be a North vs. South issue is as far from the truth as you can get. I don't care where you live. I'm sure since Attroll lives in Maine he doesn't have an issue with folks from the North, and from all indications I have from speaking with him he doesn't seem to have issues with people from the South either. So let's just drop the Civil War BS, shall we?

Very few people care about your sexual conquests here either, and for those that wish to know there's always the private message option. By using this option you can say whatever you wish to your friends. No one, not even the administrators of the site have access to your private messages but you and the person/people you send them to.

So in closing, having apologized for my wrong statement, can we Please let this thread come to a close? Seriously, enough is enough already.

[tiamalle]

Trust me longshank.......I think there a lot of people here that hope they meet up with you on the trail.I don't believe he is a hiker"I think he is busting up laughing at pissing people off".:jump :jump :jump

[longshank]

Trust me longshank.......I think there a lot of people here that hope they meet up with you on the trail.
I'll be waiting....

[Stoker53]

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Trust me longshank.......I think there a lot of people here that hope they meet up with you on the trail.
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I'll be waiting....


dizzyT.......Be very careful crossing bridges on the trail. Ya never know what/who might be lurking under them:o

[icemanat95]

Enough of the threats and veiled threats. We are not a bunch of street thugs here.

[Gray Blazer]

I was kidding about the North/South thing.:rolleyes: Que tal, Ya'll

[Stoker53]

I was kidding about the North/South thing.:rolleyes: Que tal, Ya'll


Yea I've put " the war of Northern aggression" behind me too.

[KirkMcquest]

I've pretty much had enough of this thread myself. It is funny to see how many hipocrits have launched filthy gutter attacks in the name of righteousness. It is also amazing how many people will resort verbal offense when faced with a different point of view ( even veiled threats). That is the type of low-life that exists on this site. These are the types of dummies that I have objected to from the beginning. These people have created a cynical atmosphere on this site.

And NO moron, I will not be moving on to trailplace or some other site.

Whiteblaze.net is an informative and fun site to visit, I've gotten alot of good tips and given some in return. Some of us just feel it would be even better if the ignorant element were put in thier place.

[MOWGLI]

Some of us just feel it would be even better if the ignorant element were put in thier place.

I before E, except after C, or when sounding like A, as in neighbor or weigh. ;)

[KirkMcquest]

I before E, except after C, or when sounding like A, as in neighbor or weigh. ;)

type-o sorry...... their, thats better

[the goat]

Some of us just feel it would be even better if the ignorant element were put in thier place.


I before E, except after C, or when sounding like A, as in neighbor or weigh. ;)

mowg, quit putting the ignorant element in their place!!:D

[StarLyte]

Common sense always tells me what I shouldn't say.

Lone Wolf is right - start your own list.

This is someone else's house.

Time for a different thread....:jump

Marsha

[general]

type-o sorry...... their, thats better

nope still stupid, there that's better.

[MOWGLI]

type-o sorry...... their, thats better

Actually the correct word would have been there - not "their." And "thats" should have an apostrophe. But then again, what would I know?

[mdionne]

funny this thread started. i was just censored the other day for making fun of three "trail legend's" names. i didn't realize but by my third post i was almost getting booted. i have no particular beef with any of the people i was making fun of. considering the fact that children frequent this site i would say my posts were way over the line. i must say though, all the bickering that goes on between people on this site, is more hurtful to children than deleting an explicative or two.

With that said, my posts from now on will be in consideration of the wee wittle wones...:)

[Dances with Mice]

I've pretty much had enough of this thread myself. It is funny to see how many hipocrits What do large semi-aquatic African mammals have to do with it?

[KirkMcquest]

nope still stupid, there that's better.

Their, thats better was a joke. Keep showing me how stupid you all are. You obviously have nothing substantial to say so you'll pick on type-o's. Are you sure your old enough to be on whiteblaze unsupervised?

[Doppleganger]

Their, thats better was a joke. Keep showing me how stupid you all are. You obviously have nothing substantial to say so you'll pick on type-o's. Are you sure your old enough to be on whiteblaze unsupervised?

I'm new to the site but have read a bit on this thread. Y'all sure are cantankerous around here. Not just you Mcquest ( don't come after me now).

By the way, I got the joke.

[Skidsteer]

Their, thats better was a joke. Keep showing me how stupid you all are. You obviously have nothing substantial to say so you'll pick on type-o's. Are you sure your old enough to be on whiteblaze unsupervised?

They're not picking on typos, they're picking on you.

[Marta]

When you offer people respect, you usually get respect in return. When you stalk around with a big chip on your shoulder, you can usually find someone who's more than willing to help you remove it.

[KirkMcquest]

When you offer people respect, you usually get respect in return. When you stalk around with a big chip on your shoulder, you can usually find someone who's more than willing to help you remove it.


Can you play that on your banjo?

[Heater]

You obviously have nothing substantial to say so you'll pick on type-o's.

I am type O-negative. Nobody is picking on me.

[Doppleganger]

Can you play that on your banjo?


I like to root for the underdog. Mcquest is taking on the whole dern site! The funny thing is I think he's winning:clap

[MOWGLI]

I like to root for the underdog. Mcquest is taking on the whole dern site! The funny thing is I think he's winning:clap

McQuest is obviously a frustrated Mets fan. That makes him a Loser. :rolleyes:

[KirkMcquest]

I like to root for the underdog. Mcquest is taking on the whole dern site! The funny thing is I think he's winning:clap

Its not really fair. A battle of wits with unarmed opponents. Why do they keep trying?

[MOWGLI]

Its not really fair. A battle of wits with unarmed opponents. Why do they keep trying?

You left out an apostrophe again Professor. :p

[KirkMcquest]

You left out an apostrophe again Professor. :p

Thanks Mowg, checked out your journal and was surprised to see that you have most of your teeth. That combined with your superior spelling skills must make you the hit of the local hoe-downs ( did I spell that right?).

[Skidsteer]

( did I spell that right?).

No, you spelled "that" correctly.

[dixicritter]

Enough is enough. This tread has degraded to childish name calling, veiled threats, and Macho BS. This is the third or fourth time I've said it, so with that this thread is now closed. Move along people.

I believe that I am playing right into Mr. McQuest and Mr. Longshank's hands by closing this thread. I believe it was their intent from the start of this thread to be as rude and hateful as possible to cause this so they could point and say "see I told you so!" However, I also feel it is in the best interest of WhiteBlaze that this thread be closed and slip down the page.