View Full Version : Anyone bought New 2017 GG One yet?
I have a 2009 version of this tent and am considering replacing with the new version.
i have been extremely happy with it to this point. But it is showing signs of wearing out.
Seven years with lots of use not bad. I'm sure it would last a couple more, but I am planning a long trip this year and I think it may be time for another tent.
i am looking for an assessment of the new tent, not necessarily other tent recommendations.
as I said before I really like my 2009 version of The One.
i could make this tent last one more year but it may be time to replace it.
Any reviews?
MuddyWaters
03-09-2017, 22:38
I really liked my 2010, great storm protection. It was a little fiddly but as long as I left the adjustments alone, it set up quit. I just migrated to more flexible and lighter options so I sold it.
It was hugely popular. But when they lost the spinnaker source, most potential customers went to zpacks, and now its a bit pricey for the wt imo.
I also have used lighter options, such as a Patrol shelter, which I still use on occasion. But for 10 days in the Winds in September I like to rely on my GG One as on four previous trips.
It's on sale now for $300
capehiker
03-10-2017, 11:37
There's a vid on YouTube of the new version and the guy is answering questions in the comments section.
ScareBear
03-10-2017, 15:40
I have a 2009 version of this tent and am considering replacing with the new version.
i have been extremely happy with it to this point. But it is showing signs of wearing out.
Seven years with lots of use not bad. I'm sure it would last a couple more, but I am planning a long trip this year and I think it may be time for another tent.
i am looking for an assessment of the new tent, not necessarily other tent recommendations.
as I said before I really like my 2009 version of The One.
i could make this tent last one more year but it may be time to replace it.
Any reviews?
I've looked at it and like it. It does have a couple of quirks, but has impressive weather capabilities. With the recent price drop, it really does become a viable player against Zpacks when price is a large factor...
Still leaning a bit towards the Tarptent ProTrail, though...
I think the TT notch is a better comparison plus access to 2 vertibules
TarpTent fabrics are 30D with 3,000 mm hydrostatic head.
The Gossamer Gear shelter is way behind.
Fabrics
Tent body: Custom-formulated 7d high tenacity nylon blended sil/pu coating waterproof to at least 1200mm.
Tent floor: Custom-formulated 10d high tenacity nylon blended sil/pu coating waterproof to at least 1200mm.
Wayne
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I was wondering about a old model verse new as well. My old eventually wore, out. patched it. Then gave it away. Haven't checked out the newest versions since GG went back on line having it available
Here ya Mike.
Before someone else says it I've always wished for GG to offer it in a .74 Dyneema Comp.
ScareBear
03-11-2017, 01:57
I think the TT notch is a better comparison plus access to 2 vertibules
I don't understand your comment. The One and the ProTrail are both single-door, single-vestibule, single-wall tents. The Notch is a double-door, double-vestibule, double-wall tent....:-?
ImAfraidOfBears
03-11-2017, 05:58
ordering it monday, ill let you guys know my impressions
MuddyWaters
03-11-2017, 09:14
TarpTent fabrics are 30D with 3,000 mm hydrostatic head.
The Gossamer Gear shelter is way behind.
Fabrics
Tent body: Custom-formulated 7d high tenacity nylon blended sil/pu coating waterproof to at least 1200mm.
Tent floor: Custom-formulated 10d high tenacity nylon blended sil/pu coating waterproof to at least 1200mm.
Wayne
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The GG is considerably lighter than the boat-anchor notch.
Or anything Shires has ever produced..
And you dont need to slather it with goop to seal seams.
The sil/poly u fabric is what allows taping to adhere, and is why mfgs like BA and others use it.
"The GG is considerably lighter than the boat-anchor notch.
Or anything Shires has ever produced.."
The Notch is good enough to take some strong winds and some wet snow too. Not designed for winter use but not bad either.
Tarptent could have lighter shelters too but Henry is not confident in using fabrics below our current 30d, in fact we have increased the weight in the last few years by going to stronger versions of silnylon.
Interesting that a 27oz shelter is now a boat anchor...(with stakes the One is about 6 oz lighter)
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e389/Francophoto/Tarptent%20Notch/Mt-Stirling-2.jpg
franco@tarptent
I meant "comfortable" not confident...
BTW, using the same stakes the One is about 4 oz lighter than the Notch.
ScareBear
03-12-2017, 22:53
I meant "comfortable" not confident...
BTW, using the same stakes the One is about 4 oz lighter than the Notch.
And the One is 30 inches wide at the ends. The Notch is only 20 inches wide at the ends, yes? And 2 square feet less floor space in the Notch.
I can't use any tent that is only 20 inches wide at both ends...that's a bivvy...with headroom...
At least the Notch isn't the brick that SD's new Skurka is at 37 ounces...
The Notch takes a 25"x77" mat, good enough for most.
Yes it is 20" wide at the ends but 34" in the middle, the ends are 84" apart.
ImAfraidOfBears
03-13-2017, 10:01
That's why I'm going GG One instead of the notch, the notch seems like a coffin for my 6'3" frame. The extra weight savings are just icing on the cake.
ScareBear
03-13-2017, 10:23
That's why I'm going GG One instead of the notch, the notch seems like a coffin for my 6'3" frame. The extra weight savings are just icing on the cake.
As much as I like the One, I also like the ProTrail...
For me, I also have to put the Nemo Hornet 2P in the running. 32 ounces, double-wall, double-door, double-vestibule, free-standing, almost enough space for two, a palace for one. That weight includes the tent's pole structure! Granted, it's 12 ounces more than the One, but only 6 ounces more than the ProTrail...A hundred bucks more money than the ProTrail...but it is already fully waterproof....the seams have been taped...
It will be a specialist tent for me and the dog, or just me. For me and the dog, there isn't really any debate, it's the Nemo Hornet 2P.
For just me...kinda leaning towards the One...
Although, if I didn't have a 3P tent already, I'd get the BA FCUL3. It's on close-out now at STP for 299. And, the 25percent STP coupon works, bringing the price of a fantastic 3P tent down to....$225. Unreal. If you need a big tent, grab this bad boy up. Mine has 300 something trail miles on it and shows no wear, no flaws, no issues. I replaced the guy lines with better/lighter and replaced the stakes with Ti hooks, it comes in at 3 pounds 5 ounces, all in...
GG's a good company and the One is a proven design. Happy Trails!
That's why I'm going GG One instead of the notch, the notch seems like a coffin for my 6'3" frame. The extra weight savings are just icing on the cake.
6'-3" frame?
LightHeart Gear Solong 6.
Wayne
capehiker
03-13-2017, 16:46
That's why I'm going GG One instead of the notch, the notch seems like a coffin for my 6'3" frame. The extra weight savings are just icing on the cake.
Various anecdotal posts on the web suggest you may be cramped with your height. The creator of The One is 6'4" and says he sleeps comfortable in it but one has to take that with a grain of salt.
Conflicting reports of how people of the same height fit or not inside a tent sometime just have to do with the type of mat in use (an extra couple of inches of loft can make the difference) and or how we sleep, that is curled up or stretched out.
ImAfraidOfBears
03-14-2017, 02:21
Various anecdotal posts on the web suggest you may be cramped with your height. The creator of The One is 6'4" and says he sleeps comfortable in it but one has to take that with a grain of salt.
That is actually exactly what I was going by, I saw a video of him going over the tent and figured, nice, its something I could fit into.
TarpTent fabrics are 30D with 3,000 mm hydrostatic head.
The Gossamer Gear shelter is way behind.
Fabrics
Tent body: Custom-formulated 7d high tenacity nylon blended sil/pu coating waterproof to at least 1200mm.
Tent floor: Custom-formulated 10d high tenacity nylon blended sil/pu coating waterproof to at least 1200mm.
Wayne
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I am really considering one of these quite strongly, and the sale doesn't hurt either, but this fabric scares me a bit. 7D silnylon walls and 10D floors. My goodness that seems tender. I worry about the water-proof-ness of this also.
Right now my alternative is the TT Notch. I would probably grab a SMD Lunar Solo if they were in stock. I don't hate LHG SoLong 6 either, sigh. . .
What to do?
ScareBear
03-15-2017, 09:50
That is actually exactly what I was going by, I saw a video of him going over the tent and figured, nice, its something I could fit into.
Take a look at the tent. It is a rectangle sleeping area in the net, 30 inches wide and 83 inches long. It is possible that you will have to shift so your feet to the very end of the tent in order to gain as much headroom lying down as possible. You only have 7 or 8 inches to spare at your height.
I am really considering one of these quite strongly, and the sale doesn't hurt either, but this fabric scares me a bit. 7D silnylon walls and 10D floors. My goodness that seems tender. I worry about the water-proof-ness of this also.
Right now my alternative is the TT Notch. I would probably grab a SMD Lunar Solo if they were in stock. I don't hate LHG SoLong 6 either, sigh. . .
What to do?
I voted with my dollars. TarpTent StratoSpire 1. Ordered on Thursday. Delivered on Saturday. Seam sealed yesterday. Trail ready with solid inner @ 41 ounces.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170315/45adf139d794b31bbf0b9e120851b51e.jpg
I need to take it somewhere.
Wayne
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I voted with my dollars. TarpTent StratoSpire 1. Ordered on Thursday. Delivered on Saturday. Seam sealed yesterday. Trail ready with solid inner @ 41 ounces.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170315/45adf139d794b31bbf0b9e120851b51e.jpg
I need to take it somewhere.
Wayne
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Wow, now another option! I love this model, just wondering because it's basically double the weight of "The One". I should add, I WON"T be thru hiking for weeks on end. Honestly, the largest percent of the time would be weekend trips, maybe 3-4 nights max. I am leaning Gossamer right now. Mostly because of the weight.
There's more to shelter than weight.
Wayne
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Interesting discussion. The thing about shelters is that you don't need a license to own more than one. A lot of this stuff is "Ford vs. Chevy". If you spend $300+ on a shelter from any of these cottages guys it's going to be at least 'good enough'.
The Notch takes a 25"x77" mat, good enough for most.
Yes it is 20" wide at the ends but 34" in the middle, the ends are 84" apart.
That's why I'm going GG One instead of the notch, the notch seems like a coffin for my 6'3" frame. The extra weight savings are just icing on the cake.
6'-3" frame?
LightHeart Gear Solong 6.
Wayne
Various anecdotal posts on the web suggest you may be cramped with your height. The creator of The One is 6'4" and says he sleeps comfortable in it but one has to take that with a grain of salt.
Conflicting reports of how people of the same height fit or not inside a tent sometime just have to do with the type of mat in use (an extra couple of inches of loft can make the difference) and or how we sleep, that is curled up or stretched out.
That is actually exactly what I was going by, I saw a video of him going over the tent and figured, nice, its something I could fit into.
I'm 6'4" med frame, similar to Glen Van Peski Gossamer Gear's designer, as a rotisserie sleeper. With a 20* Feathered Friends LONG Swallow UL bag(4" 900 fp down non compressed loft) and Neo Air Xlite Woman's(2.5 " thickness) didn't have issue with length or width in the older version The One.
My only concern is the fabric, walls 7D and floor 10D SilNylon. That seems so very thin. I know Gossamer is calling it a "new design fabric". I'll add, I intend on using this shelter for 99% weekend trips and not "thru hiking" anywhere for extended trips. Honestly it will mostly be used for 1-2 night trips. Don't really see myself using in harsh environments or temps. If it's predicted downpours or below 40ish degrees, I'm staying home.
What do you all think?
ScareBear
03-15-2017, 13:13
My only concern is the fabric, walls 7D and floor 10D SilNylon. That seems so very thin. I know Gossamer is calling it a "new design fabric". I'll add, I intend on using this shelter for 99% weekend trips and not "thru hiking" anywhere for extended trips. Honestly it will mostly be used for 1-2 night trips. Don't really see myself using in harsh environments or temps. If it's predicted downpours or below 40ish degrees, I'm staying home.
What do you all think?
Just for informational purposes, downpours and temps 40'ish at night are pretty much the AT's forte...so you are going to be limiting yourself greatly, especially if you are counting on weekends...
And, for the record, I don't consider 40F and rain to be "harsh"...but...YMMV...
My only concern is the fabric, walls 7D and floor 10D SilNylon. That seems so very thin. I know Gossamer is calling it a "new design fabric". I'll add, I intend on using this shelter for 99% weekend trips and not "thru hiking" anywhere for extended trips. Honestly it will mostly be used for 1-2 night trips. Don't really see myself using in harsh environments or temps. If it's predicted downpours or below 40ish degrees, I'm staying home.
What do you all think?
Glen is competing for a segment of the wt conscious market with others who are using Dyneema Composite. We already heard from several posters about shelter wt as if that spec should always be prioritized over everything else no matter context and applications.:rolleyes::-?
Just for informational purposes, downpours and temps 40'ish at night are pretty much the AT's forte...so you are going to be limiting yourself greatly, especially if you are counting on weekends...
And, for the record, I don't consider 40F and rain to be "harsh"...but...YMMV...
Yes, I see that I should clarify. I only posted to this forum because of this specific thread on the new GG the one. I don't intend to use this on the AT. I will be using it in my home state of Missouri.
My apologies if I have misused your all's kindness and knowledge on this fine forum :), it's a bit hard to find alot of quality info on this specific shelter.
ScareBear
03-15-2017, 13:32
It will be fine for Missouri weather....except for hail....and tornadoes....and straight line wind storms....however, you may want a double wall tent that you can take the fly off of and just sleep in the net for summer in Missouri. Which, is like summer in New Orleans...
Glen is competing for a segment of the wt conscious market with others who are using Dyneema Composite. We already heard from several posters about shelter wt as if that spec should always be prioritized over everything else no matter context and applications.:rolleyes::-?
So, what are you trying to say? haha. I don't consider weight as the final decision but I definitely consider it. I come from old school hiking (80s-90s) when a 5 lb. dome tent was considered fairly light. But now, in my older age, I am looking at shaving weight and making the hike as pleasant as possible. there are so many niches in the market today and so many GREAT choices. Just trying to balance the $$ with the options and looking for some more modern impressions and opinions.
Thanks for all the tips everyone!
Lighter fabric, lighter The One, making The One more competitive combined with the lower price pt. Bigger bulls eye. Could hit the sweet spot for a greater market share. Second sentence wasn't aimed at applying to you.
From what you've said about your goals and concerns The One could/should? fit nicely in your Top Ten maybe Top Five options.
Well, pulled the trigger on "The One". Look for some reviews and thoughts very soon.
Thanks again!
ImAfraidOfBears
03-16-2017, 14:59
Well, pulled the trigger on "The One". Look for some reviews and thoughts very soon.
Thanks again!
i ordered one as well, will check back in here for impressions.
Im also interested in The One Shelter and was worried about the fabric choice by GG. Im more worried about the blend of Sil/PU coating. My experience over the years is that PU coatings brakes down and loose there waterproofness and start to smell really bad. What is the longevity of the new offering with the Sil/PU blend? Im basing this on gear from 10+ years ago.
MuddyWaters
08-19-2017, 11:08
Im also interested in The One Shelter and was worried about the fabric choice by GG. Im more worried about the blend of Sil/PU coating. My experience over the years is that PU coatings brakes down and loose there waterproofness and start to smell really bad. What is the longevity of the new offering with the Sil/PU blend? Im basing this on gear from 10+ years ago.
Some commercial UL tents use the pu coated sil in 10d. Its what allows them to tape seams.
Lotsa commercial UL tents like BA use the pu coated sil in 10d. Its what allows them to tape seams.
Thanks for the response Muddy, I realize companies are using this blend it but Im interested in how it holds up. Many years ago all tents where made from PU coated fabric. The PU coatings of yesteryears did not like being stored. On more than one occasion I have opened up a tent that was delaminating with a strong vomit smell. Since I moved to Silnylon and Cuben this problem has not happened. So I'm kinda reluctant to go back to PU coatings.
MuddyWaters
08-19-2017, 11:36
Thanks for the response Muddy, I realize companies are using this blend it but Im interested in how it holds up. Many years ago all tents where made from PU coated fabric. The PU coatings of yesteryears did not like being stored. On more than one occasion I have opened up a tent that was delaminating with a strong vomit smell. Since I moved to Silnylon and Cuben this problem has not happened. So I'm kinda reluctant to go back to PU coatings.
Yep, ive had pu coated polyester and nylon peel, delaminate, decompose over years. Ive thrown out daypacks, ski jackets, rain jackets, and cheap tents. But I imagine there are various quality levels. Ive got pu coated gear 25 yrs old or so thats still Ok. Avoid hot attics for sure...
There's more to shelter than weight.
Wayne
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Especially for weekend use. Surprisingly I have found I carry a lot more weight when I go for a weekend than when I go for a week.
that said, since the tent has worked very well for you in the past, the size, etc. seems to have worked for you.
jeremywerlin
08-28-2017, 13:08
Good info here. Thanks everyone.